The Battle of Mia Farrow's Creepy Exes: FRANK SINATRA vs. WOODY ALLEN

manchurian candidate is better than any of allen's movies

what it comes down to for me is i never need to see annie hall or manhattan ever again and i am forever yoked to sings for only the lonely, one of the richest, deepest records ever made by fuckin anybody

― american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, January 16, 2020 12:28 AM (thirty-five minutes ago)

^^^^

I can still watch any number of Woody Allen films, like I watch many old Transformers and G.I. Joe: The Real American Hero episodes

Manchurian Candidate was good but was not as good as Annie Hall, Manhattan, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Zelig or Hannah and Her Sisters for me

Frank's acting > Woody's jazz stylings

Woody was p much my comedic hero from age 14-24. I've never denied he's a creep though.

I used to enjoy a few woody films but couldn’t make it through Manhattan, it seemed like just real bullshit. Annie Hall is classic obv. But Frank is a dude I’ll always have time for. Ever since I was a kid I liked the guy, but it helps that I was exposed to his lonely guy just thinkin bout things albums early on and not his bombastic coasting legend LPs from the ‘70s on (though as far as the ‘70s go his Jobim collabs are vv nice). Good actor too.

The last Woody film I liked was Deconstructing Harry since it was a pretty bleak piece of self loathing, vs being mildly self deprecating.

I still love Allen's early comedies, like Interiors.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 15, 2020

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tbh I might even say Frank's acting >> Woody's "acting"

omar otm, tho the 2 eps i saw of his sitcom w/ Elaine May were better than expected

manchurian candidate is better than any of quisper tarantino's movies, what's yr effin point

Tisa Farrow has a more interesting filmography than Mia Farrow

Sleeper is funnier than Dirty Dingus Magee

Frank basically desegregated Las Vegas, whereas I'm not sure Woody knows what nonwhite people are.

Frank basically desegregated Las Vegas

ehh this is a stretch

the racial patter w/ Sammy from some of the Rat Pack live recordings is less than sensitive

I'm not sure Woody knows what nonwhite people are

puts a lotta old jazz records on his soundtracks

puts a lotta old jazz records on his soundtracks

A regular Woody E. B. DuBois.

Frank's racial politics are interesting - he was definitely committed to integration and, in particular, making sure his fellow musicians/entertainers were treated fairly, but he simultaneously held very common attitudes that we would describe today as racist: freely using epithets, stereotypes, etc. It was like he was against institutionalized discrimination and racially motivated hatred, but didn't see tossing around the n-word in a jocular manner as being as being an issue because hey different ethnic groups making fun of each other was no big deal.

listening to his frequent lapses into an "Amos and Andy" voice is genuinely painful

classic "it's a joke, relaaaax, get a sense of humor!" guy

different ethnic groups making fun of each other was no big deal.

i grew up with this kind of humor tho w/in TV limits, usually

i take the 5th on any further discussion of its merits, but yay Uncle Floyd Show

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