Poppy C/D

i have no beef with grimes but she can't write 1 hook let alone 3 in one song

i should say: i have no MUSICAL beef with grimes

also: https://www.metalsucks.net/2020/01/13/hulu-made-a-tv-show-about-the-poppy-mars-argo-titanic-sinclair-drama-and-people-are-pissed/

this is probably entirely the wrong question to ask but to what extent was that sinclair character involved in this new album?

she split from him (and made similar accusations against him)

he has credits on the record but iirc his actual involvement in the songwriting is disputed

didn't realize she just split from him in dec

yep

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— Poppy (@poppy) December 28, 2019

not that it devalues the music or her art if he is heavily involved obv - just a bit unfortunate

yeah he also directed several of the videos iirc

what is this opening track omg

lol i was waiting for this

the zombies have gone prog hardcore

ok the rest of the album is imo good-to-very-good rather than great (and as i say, tt has already played me like three of its tracks!) but man Concrete

the grimes comparison really only makes sense for "sit/stay", which belongs to the same sort of industrial pop territory as "kill v maim". though if grimes actually made the metal album she kept threatening to i'd imagine it'd probably sound fairly similar to this but probably not as good.

some people like candy
some people like coffee
but these lifeless flaaaavors don't saaatisfyyy meeee

I am not sure how much staying power this will have for me, but it is bringing the lols for me right now. Concrete and Sit/Stay are great. A lot of the twists and turns in other tracks are interesting. At the very least it will be a good gym album.

I like this

I'm a fan. I am digging Poppy. not sure about her ballads but Concrete is a doozy. Turn me into a street indeed.

This is ... something.
Very 90's sounding somehow. 'Concrete' and 'Sit/Stay' the clear highlights. The jarring shifts between "songs within songs" are pretty crazy but kinda gimmicky and distract from some genuinely great musical sequences.

i def thought "this sounds like the late 90s" when i was listening to it

The worst thing that could happen to her is turning into a real person, with real feelings.

Def see the '90s thing.

I'm struggling to hear how it's much more than a basic version of Grimes.

Poppy & Grimes are both mining the same Japanese styles, which, tbf, is a completely irrational thing for me to be annoyed about because people can take influence from wherever, but it does annoy me.

i definitely hear the jpop metal/rock-tinged idol (ie babymetal, momoiro clover z, bis) influence on poppy but i think the influence of jpop on grimes has been pretty overstated beyond her saying she's a fan of like, perfume and kyary in interviews

As I suspected, I loved it this morning when I played it at the gym.

I'm digging this Grimes-goes-Nitzer-Ebb approach.

This & Hot Pink basically most listened on Spotify this month. Don’t really care for the slow ones tbh.

I Disagree joining Concrete and Sit/Stay as the upper tier tracks. Don't Go Outside with all the reprises of previous tracks is awesome too.

What's cool about this record is, if you don't care for a song, it will change genres in about 20 seconds so just sit tight.

She needs to go all in on the whole post-genre thing, and make an entire record like Concrete, which covers about 5 in one song.

I'm a 47 year old man and I spent the better part of the day on a Poppy internet trawl. I have learned a great deal, not all of it good. She may in fact be an awful, terrible person.

It is quite the thing to get a friend into this album and then to drop Moshi Moshi on her.

It's all a scam. Poppy just wants our money. I've gone from never heard of her, to a huge fan, to disillusioned in less than a week.

Do we have Poppy truthers on ILM now?

Yes. I've been on this board for 15 years, just lying in wait to expose the sham that is Poppy.

I can't help but admire your tenacity

Admittedly, it's been a long slog. Do you know how many threads on grime I had to get through, just waiting for the moment to strike?

Poppy thinks she's David Bowie, and can just change styles and concepts every couple years. But she'd be nowhere wtihout Titanic Sinclair. He made her. And she cheated on him with a performer named Ghostemane, fired him and then tried to erase his contributions. Then she leaked that he attempted suicide out of despair, and made it sound like she was the real victim...and then used it to promote her stupid album. Poppy is a piece of garbage.

"I got rid of titanic sinclair, and yeah he tried to kill himself because I abaondoned him but whatevs...buy my new album"

imo it’s weird that you never got the sense that titanic sinclair himself is abusive

^^^

This is Poppy's comment on it fwiw

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— Poppy (@poppy) December 28, 2019

This is Titanic Sinclair's brother speaking at length on the whole thing. He has more experience with Mars Argo than Poppy, but he knows Poppy fairly well. I understand it's his brother and fairly biased, but the details are not flattering.

SPREAD THIS LIKE A WILDFIRE. MAXIMUM RT. TITANIC'S BROTHER REVEALS HIS SIDE OF THE STORY. A THREAD. pic.twitter.com/GbmpipR25G

— Elaine (@Loyallaine) December 29, 2019

are you his brother

no he's a middle aged man who has decided to come down hard on the side of an alleged abuser in a "he said she said" situation where there's 2 shes and one he

I honestly don't have time to parse all that text

What are you, the queen of England? You say you don't have time to learn the truth about Poppy? OK, keep your head in the sand.

idk considering the "truth" you've provided so far (a one-paragraph four-page monologue by an alleged abuser's brother) i think it's more likely your head stuck in wet cement

lol

can i buy a carriage return, damn

Damn, this album is good. Lots of crowd pleasing nods to pop history but every song is coherent within itself. The vocals hold everything together beautifully.

saw her last night in boston with ilx godfather tom e., the first of two sold out shows at a 475-cap venue near my apartment. it was great, the crowd was bonkers, and the tatu cover ruled

weird album, it's pretty all over the place stylistically. some of it is great but a lot is just ok at best

highlights are "linger" (the burial impression here lol), "the attic" and "prove it"

I just made this my first Poppy album. I really don't like her voice tbh. Good musical ideas though - esp Church Outfit, Hard and Zig.

the ones you should actually listen to are i disagree and the eat ep

Loving 'Motorbike' although the video is disappointingly literal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev_vPbqUlZs