Female orcs stay in the hovel and bring up the kiddie orcs, while the big bad orc-husbands go out and get themselves killed for Sauron. That's why you don't see them. Tolkien was pretty old-school, don't forget. Maybe there's an orc middle-class of teachers, scribes etc that run it all from back in "the east" and are resented by the arrow fodder orcs that have to go out to Mordor or wherever.
― it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link
rejected story orcs
― Banáná hÉireann (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:06 (four years ago) link
how does this happen irl also
― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 11:08 (four years ago) link
When a Saruman and a mud puddle love each other very much
― Pizza is Really Yummy for Me (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
this doesn't happen irl because orcs don't exist u oaf
― que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
is that a reference to something itt cause i haven't bothered reading it
― Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link
I’ve never read it but I bet The Last Ringbearer has a take on this.
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
that sounds kinda great tbh
― que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link
It’s free to read online in English if you google!
― steer karma (gyac), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
Grudging respect for the language and anti-capitalism/industrialism, but Tolkien is such a racist colonialist anti-miscegenation mess.
― Now We Know (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link
royalist and sexist should probably be in there too.
― Now We Know (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link
idk, I think Eowyn killing the witch-king makes up for a lot on the gender front imo.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link
it's definitely the most "fuck YEAH" moment in the film adaptation (with extra castration imagery)
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:42 (four years ago) link
but there's no arguing about all the "swarthy" = evil language and the royal bloodline crap
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link
Most Brit fantasy seems to do the true blood trope - see CS Lewis, JK Rowling and even Philip Pullman.
― it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link
Moorcock otoh
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link