about the candidate who commands the most support for men and women under 35
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:26 (four years ago) link
I thought that was from the cosmo interview where he shoots down the astrology question. NYT been a joke.
― Fetchboy, Monday, 13 January 2020 23:33 (four years ago) link
Why are they asking questions for the purpose of watching candidates squirm?
― treeship., Monday, 13 January 2020 23:34 (four years ago) link
People are still talking about the "boxers or briefs" question Clinton got.
― nickn, Monday, 13 January 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
I'm in for Sanders in a couple weeks if David Sirota isn't part of his administration.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 January 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link
i'm not super thrilled with this new tactic of the warren campaign -- leaking private comments from years ago that, out of context, make bernie look bad
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link
Treeship you remember what campaigning is, right?
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link
hence Trump Lite
xp
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link
wait what? This?
In response to a great deal of questions we’ve had today, below is a statement from Elizabeth Warren: pic.twitter.com/PdBCHJQCJE— Kristen Orthman (@KristenOrthman) January 14, 2020
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 01:59 (four years ago) link
just one more good reason to skip tomorrow's debate
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link
yeah. it was a sneaky trap.
1.) unnamed staffers float this unverified accusation. 2.) bernie denies -- but admits he said something about women candidates facing special challenges against trump, a misogynist. (which we all saw happen with our own eyes in 2016). 3.) warren comes out and calls bernie a liar. but then frames it in a way that makes it seem like she is being the bigger person.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
I mean, I don't care, really. If either one's the nominee, I'd be shocked we'd moved so far left.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link
I skip all the debates bcz fucking showbiz
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:05 (four years ago) link
it was very deftly executed, but i think the main person it helps is biden. if warren does fall off, bernie is going to need her supporters to beat biden. and vice versa. this just builds animosity between the two camps.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:06 (four years ago) link
treesh get off the fucking internet
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
Well, yeah, and who cares? And I speak as someone who spent a marvelous 70 minutes getting attacked by Warren people for giving Sanders some cred.
It's stupid, and it makes me wanna consider dumping Twitter (fat chance but whatever).
xpost
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:10 (four years ago) link
but yea, alfred -- if either is the nominee, it would be a great moment. just feel a little disappointed at warren -- who i was considering supporting before i decidedly switched to bernie a few months ago -- basically put a kick me sign on my candidates back.
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:11 (four years ago) link
treesh don’t go
― 💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:11 (four years ago) link
i don't exist outside the internet, brad. i say i live in brooklyn but that's more like, a metaphor
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:12 (four years ago) link
well welcome to the fuckin primary, kick me signs for everyone
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
it would be a great moment. just feel a little disappointed at warren -- who i was considering supporting before i decidedly switched to bernie a few months ago -- basically put a kick me sign on my candidates back.
See, it's the opposite for me -- I'm disappointed in Sanders. But who cares? Either is fine, and campaign staffers gotta eat and vacation in Napa.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:13 (four years ago) link
Why would it even matter if Bernie did say, in an ostensibly private conversation, that he didn't think a woman could win in 2020? What's wrong with that?
― JRN, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link
idk i’d yell at someone on ilx if they said that
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:29 (four years ago) link
Only that it confirms what katherine wrote earlier today about the messianism and institutional sexism in which so many of his worst followers traffic.
Again, campaign staffers gotta eat.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:31 (four years ago) link
it doesn't sound consistent with other stuff bernie says
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:32 (four years ago) link
but who knows
People do remember Obama vs Clinton, right? That was kinda like this, except neither of them believed in shit.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link
I don't see how the alleged remark traffics in either messianism or institutional sexism. I suppose it could have, depending on the context, but we don't know the context.
― JRN, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link
― treeship., Monday, January 13, 2020
It is however consistent with what his 2016 staff did to the Nevada Dem state chair.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link
― JRN, Monday, January 13, 2020
Exactly. This is Mike Allen-level gossip looking for a Morning Joe to revel in it.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link
xp — I have very purposefully not weighed in on this latest turn of events but my stance is that every part of it is shitty and it would have been better off not happening (both whatever the remark was and it surfacing like this) but it doesn’t really change my views about either candidate, except to make me even less inclined to talk about them
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:37 (four years ago) link
that sounded exactly like something bernie would offhandedly say and then deny ever saying or brushing off. xpost. and i like Bernie! But a comment like is a whole subcategory of shit men later have no recollection ever having said. It's a very tired thing.
― Yerac, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link
We have no idea of the Trump-specific context Bernie's entire sentence was in, whether he was aware how his sentence could be parsed that way, whether Warren misheard him, etc etc etc. They both still support each other and they both have policy platforms that would be good for the country, for the populace, and for the planet. Being disappointed in speculation about personal conversations is a waste of time and energy.
Policy >>>> personality, even if we really knew enough to assess their personalities as sucking, which we don't.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link
xp my stance is that every part of it is shitty and it would have been better off not happening (both whatever the remark was and it surfacing like this) but it doesn’t really change my views about either candidate
yah
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link
katherine otm
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:39 (four years ago) link
The only upside is it's unlikely anyone of consequence will be talking about this within 3-4 days
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:44 (four years ago) link
Sanders remarking that Clinton's close loss in 2016 speaks to the difficulty of getting a woman elected as president in a country as fucking sexist as America is plausible, but that's me finding context in he-said/she-said in which I incline to agree with Warren anyway because America is a fucking sexist country. Men -- I include myself -- have no idea how we come off when we hammer points at women.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:48 (four years ago) link
hm
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link
But a comment like is a whole subcategory of shit men later have no recollection ever having said.
otm
― 💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link
Yes. One comment, apparently made during a private conversation between two politicians who were considering running for the same office, expressing a hunch about what might theoretically happen when the votes were cast about sixteen months in the future, really ought to be our focus of attention now. Because these things matter deeply to the fate of the na... uh, nope, nevermind.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:55 (four years ago) link
the reason we're talking about it is because members of the warren campaign leaked it
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 02:57 (four years ago) link
we don't have to talk about it!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:00 (four years ago) link
of course! that explains why we are treating this as a momentous event! next, they may leak that Bernie puts russian dressing on his reuben sandwich.
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:01 (four years ago) link
Hey Mike, it's Young han with Bernie 2020! Did you hear? Senator Nina Turner is hosting a House Party with Dr. Cornel West and Dionna Langford in Des Moines on Wednesday, Jan 15 at 6:00 PM. Are you able to join them?just got this text and... maybe? the guests are getting more intense tbh
― babu frik fan account (mh), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link
Young Han?
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:04 (four years ago) link
we cannot pass up an opportunity to reiterate that ALL m... naaah
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link
xp Sounds like a normal Korean name
― jaymc, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:13 (four years ago) link
i thought it was some kind of rapper trying to work in a han solo reference
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link
that thought seems offensive now though
― treeship., Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link
Bernie's got the Yung Titties endorsement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlhEKVIS2uk
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Tuesday, 14 January 2020 03:21 (four years ago) link