iyo did facebook ruin the internet?

Why do people automatically think you know who is a family member commenting and give you shit for criticizing something they wrote?

I could see if they have the same last name and are listed as family on FB but one of my friends wrote something and got told by someone to stop spreading "hate". I defended him mildly, because I figured they might be family, but wasn't sure. No name-calling, just defending what he said.

Only for his husband (also a friend of mine) to freak out and tell me she was his aunt and to step back.

Ok?

And another time this dude's mother wrote something really heinous and stupid on his FB profile and people came after her and he wrote this screed about how dare people be nasty to his mother.

Idk if you have salty family members maybe tell them to stfu?

Are these people part of your theater group? After all, that's the only reason you're still on Facebook, right?

xp i . . . have no idea what you're even saying. families? friends? husbands? who

(i suspect the answer is to quit facebook tho. i repeatedly ignored my father's friend request and i was right to do it)

imo yes Facebook did ruin the internet

I'm still technically on Facebook, but I more or less abandoned it 5 years ago after a) coming to dislike the context collapse I experienced there as the site became more popular, and b) joining and becoming addicted to Twitter.

For all its evils, though, I do wonder whether it would help me stay better connected with IRL friends who I no longer see much (mostly because we're in our 40s and many of them have families). For instance, not knowing about events that friends have created or are attending means I undoubtedly miss opportunities to actually see people. But also just pleasant low-level online interactions seem appealing sometimes.

(I do not, however, want to argue on Facebook about politics or the latest online outrage; I'd rather do that on more niche platforms that don't include random family members or high-school classmates.)

Just realized it's 2020, so it was probably 6 or 7 years ago that I stopped posting.

Ppl who don’t remember who you are well enough to hit you up directly to hang out are probably not worth keeping low-effort tabs on on Facebook. I’m cheerfully forgetting most of the people I went to high school and college with.

Maybe not, though that seems sorta depressing.

I've been talking a lot with old friends lately (HS/college, 30-40 yrs ago) and reconnected with maybe 60% of them through FB, and those FB contacts are largely to establish "real" communication through email/text. So yeah it works as a contact hub.

It’s fucking trash and staying on it during this decade is the equivalent of having an aol.com address during the 10s, with blatant privacy abuse and disinfo as a bonus

Enjoy being yelled at by anti-vaxxers, you schmucks

geez louise, please hold the vitriol if you can manage -- if you're gonna call someone a trashy schmuck, maybe aim the hose at a less broad swath of people (like anti-vaxxers, who literally never yell at me anywhere much less on facebook)

facebook users may be uncool (i can accept this) and making bargains they may or may not understand w their info. still, i don't get yelled at by anyone (except here!) and it's quite useful for IRL social organizing purposes. i had several performance opportunities recently that only happened because of gd facebook. and they were both really fun and enriched my life considerably! when used carefully, facebook is a facilitator, not a place to set up house.

I hate it though

you can hate facebook and not trash/insult all of its users. i think i am extremely fatigued from ott vitriol in general. hyperbolic disgust seems like it should be reserved for the truly disgusting. if you think i am disgusting for using facebook to set up shows, so be it i guess.

Let’s settle for “I find that unfortunate”

it certainly ruined old ppl

they were v much not ready for the internet but the world insisted they must be Online

My dad is holding out, refusing to engage w the internet at all and I respect his decision.

It’s somewhat difficult to communicate w him but that’s the only real issue it has caused.

yeah facebook is more chill than this place, blocking stuff in both cases helps though I block more here than there.

I hope facebook eventually dies a fiery death but my newsfeed whatever is completely fine. I also don't see ads or any of the anti-vaxxer/flat earth type of stuff. I am also not friends with most family members or people from HS/past jobs unless I really liked them. I don't have fb on my phone.

It’s absurdly easy to avoid being yelled at by anti-vaxxers on fb, or indeed any other social media platform - it has never happened to me and I have taken no steps to avoid it

Old people definitely ruined/ruined by social media in a way that only time can repair. Young people, they're so capricious they've already moved on. Granted, often to Instagram, which of course is owned by Facebook, but they'll move on to something else soon enough.

they are on tiktok which is china's so probably just as bad

https://www.axios.com/tiktok-china-online-privacy-personal-data-6b251d22-61f4-47e1-a58d-b167435472e3.html

to avoid ads and bad vibes, i created a friends list that is just ppl who will not tempt me to Do Posts and thats made the experience of catching up on fb v fast and less painful

fb perfected the model of social network as both a data broker and news source which is really the root of its evil internet ruining powers

nobody actually likes having existence and relationships and access to cultural events filtered through a monopoly organization run by Zuckerberg but kudos to those of you brave enough to police my language and point out that a specific type of misinformation is avoidable

i still have a hotmail email address.

They would be great services ... if they were not for profit.

Facebook as a business is evil — no one here, self included, disputes that.

I signed up for my first ever Facebook account (ok, other than the shadow profile they have on me plus Instagram and WhatsApp) last week to promote some of the electric car stuff I’ve been working on. Admittedly under a false name. Put up the profile and a business page and bought some adverts. I was banned in less than 24 hours. Where do I buy some russian bots?

run for president and you get them for free.

why were you banned? because of the ads? xpost

the only time I have been flagged was for one name C4rey An4lytica. I just changed it to something else. I also have a completely corrupted account that everyone thinks belongs to a famous goalie and somehow his pics are in it. I swear I never put them there.

how is tik-tok different from vine?

a lot of stuff could be on both. tiktok usually longer videos, based on a lipsync app so much (most?) of the audio is dubbed from elsewhere, more earnest, hardly any of the wild stunt/fight/fail stuff that you'd see i.e. on worldstarhiphop. more dance moves. more transparently desperate ploys for likes and followers.

I’m not entirely sure and Facebook weren’t going to offer an explanation. I might have been VPNed into japan at the time but I don’t think I was.

I also got banned from google ads as well this week for ‘payment violations’ from an entirely legit but new google apps account. I already had one kafkaesque experience trying to work out what went wrong there.

I’m just going to pay a mate with a marketing business to do this for me.

It’s a good thing Ed is kept out of the PR business tbf. I’ve seen his hair

tbh the thing that ruined Facebook was letting people comment on your statuses

"Well, actually..."

honestly, it's also been good as I've found out when a few friends were in crisis a little easier and have been able to help as a result.

fb is grand

twitter is grand too

idk how ye do be using them. that may be the issue idk

twitter is grand too

i think the 'darraghmac' login has been compromised

darraghacked

vg tb

well noted mookie but since i started using twitter i have carefully curated it to only see dublin bus updates and say horrible things about tottenham players

ppl who do otherwise may be seeing different results but complaining about that seems performative given the locus of control

Your mom's performative

gosh i rly just never know how to react to that tbh

'if spurs had twice the points they'd still not be in first'

follow me

ouch

It’s a good thing Ed is kept out of the PR business tbf. I’ve seen his hair

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Personal brand, mate.

I keep getting friend requests. It’s seriously freaking me out

For all its evils, though, I do wonder whether it would help me stay better connected with IRL friends who I no longer see much (mostly because we're in our 40s and many of them have families). For instance, not knowing about events that friends have created or are attending means I undoubtedly miss opportunities to actually see people

Actually, yes, yes it would, speaking as a person in my 40s

I was at a party last night, and a friend who isn't really on FB asked about my job ... the one I got laid off from over a year ago, and posted about on FB ... he was unaware this had happened. It was mildly embarrassing for him.

It feels like Facebook is just so crap now that surely everyone will stop using it soon.
But I thought the same thing five years ago and everyone still uses it.

Facebook's global domination strategy would ensure their continued profitability, even if everyone in the USA stopped using it tomorrow.