Global Warming's Terrifying New Math

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maybe that wasn't speculation, maybe that was just me forgetting that i used to knew that. anyway. it's bizarre that people fall for this bullshit, not in one particular info campaign but across so many different topics and generations of fools (and selfish bastards)! and that in the background there's these dipshits running the show in half empty best western conference rooms near every international airport. and yet they've already wildly succeeded! in order for oil companies to keep running iran for another 25 years, the CIA and MI6 had to instigate a coup and install a puppet. in order for oil companies to protect their industry from climate change regulation for 32 years (since 1988/hansen), all they had to do was shave off a cut of their profits to fund a disinformation industry, the discredited "research" and the distribution network (bullshit "journals" and scientific publications, conferences, think tanks, foundations) to give the whole thing a stage flat neighborhood feel convincing enough to pass on conservative television and radio (it helps to work with other actors). and again - examine any of this close up and you just keep running into the dumbest things possible, and yet no one knows what to do about it, and it keeps working

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

i mean, just imagine working on a hyper-conservative bloodsucking campaign to protect the alcohol's right to advertise to minors. then you name your organization "Center for Union Facts", because it doesn't even matter, does it. then some dude's out there listening to the radio and hears an ad by a serious sounding actor who says that you have to vote no on Prop 14 because it's going to destroy jobs in the biggest industry in the tri-state area, "paid for by the Center for Union Facts". doot doot doot, 2 months later in the voting booth, "hmm prop 14 is bad for jobs, right? a union said that i think", doot doot doot

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:25 (four years ago) link

bbbut the website is called CFact! It's got facts right in the name, don't you SEE?

A perfect transcript of a routine post (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

They're National SOCIALISTS so Commies are Nazis do you see!!?

Camina Burana Drummer (Leee), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

Bother me tomorrow, today I'll buy no sorrows
Doot, doot, doot, looking out my back door

vote no on prop 14

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

ā€œIā€™m a big believer in that word, the environment,ā€ he said. ā€œIā€™m a big believer, but I want clean air and I want clean water, I also want jobs, though. I donā€™t want to close up our industry because somebody said, you know, ā€˜you have to go with windā€™ or ā€˜you have to go with something else.ā€™ Itā€™s not going to be able to have the capacity to do what we have to do.ā€

greatest. president. EVER!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 January 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link

truly, we did not get the president we needed, we got the president we deserved

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Friday, 10 January 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link

all they had to do was shave off a cut of their profits to fund a disinformation industry

bingo! this means they could fund a few hundred relatively talented Moral Monsters (tm) to come to work each day of their lives and figure out how to get millions of people to swallow whatever pack of lies were most useful to their employers, in exchange for a nice suburban home, benefits, good schools for their kids, and a clean, safe work environment.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 January 2020 03:37 (four years ago) link

In a move that will resound across the world of energy investing, BlackRock, the worldā€™s largest asset manager, this week warned of a ā€œfundamental reshaping of financeā€ as the impacts of climate change become better understood.

BlackRock CEO Larry Fink said in an open letter that his company will end support for thermal coal, screen fossil fuel investments more closely, and redesign its own investment approach to put sustainability at its core. As part of the shift, BlackRock will exit investments it decides have a high-sustainability-related risk.

https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/blackrock-sends-huge-warning-shot-at-companies-ignoring-climate-risk

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

how many new 'hottest years' have we had in the last 40? a lot

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2020/01/2019-was-2nd-hottest-year-record-nasa-and-noaa-say/604939/

mookieproof, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

Signing on to the Trillion Tree initiative was basically the cost of admission for the global elite at this yearā€™s World Economic Forum (well, that plus tens of thousands of dollars for the badge). In fact, tree planting was the rare issue on which even Jane Goodall and Donald Trump could get on the same page at Davos.

Meanwhile, Axios revealed last week that Congressman Bruce Westerman, an Arkansas Republican, is working on a bill dubbed the Trillion Trees Act that would set a national target for tree planting (although apparently it wonā€™t beā€”and almost certainly couldnā€™t beā€”a literal trillion).

Itā€™s great that trees are having a moment. Nations absolutely should plant and protect as many as possibleā€”to absorb carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, provide habitat for animals, and restore fragile ecosystems.

ā€œTrees are an important, very visible, and very socializable answer,ā€ says Roger Aines, who leads Lawrence Livermore National Labā€™s Carbon Initiative, a research program on carbon dioxide removal.

But itā€™s also a limited and unreliable way of addressing climate change. We have a terrible track record on carrying out reforestation efforts to date. Weā€™d have to plant and protect a massive number of trees for decades to offset even a fraction of global emissions. And years of efforts can be nullified by droughts, wildfires, disease, or deforestation elsewhere.

Perhaps the biggest risk is that the appeal of natural-sounding solutions can delude us into thinking weā€™re taking more meaningful action than we really are. It ā€œinvites people to view tree planting as a substituteā€ for the sweeping changes required to prevent greenhouse-gas emissions from reaching the atmosphere in the first place, says Jane Flegal, a member of the adjunct faculty at Arizona State Universityā€™s School for the Future of Innovation in Society.

...

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/615102/tree-planting-is-a-great-idea-that-could-become-a-dangerous-climate-distraction/

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

oops, i was trying to use those ellipses inside the quote to indicate there's more to the article. not to throw shade on it, as its use outside of the quote box signifies

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link

FPā€™d you for that. appalling

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link

Throwing shade at trees, how could you.

Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

what have trees ever done for me?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 20:57 (four years ago) link

Antarctica just hit 65 F, its warmest temperature ever recorded

mookieproof, Friday, 7 February 2020 17:28 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

It's pretty remarkable that, since 1990, when the climate crisis became clear, federal energy R&D -- supposedly the bipartisan policy everyone agrees on -- is DOWN. That says more about US political will than all the far-off targets in the world. https://t.co/bYRaBpkP2q pic.twitter.com/2R1TYKvPtm

— David Roberts (@drvox) February 25, 2020

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 25 February 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

This was maybe the most staggering thing I learned on my Shell trip. When these companies talk about going carbon neutral, that means selling off their oil wells, probably to gangsters https://t.co/UMVKbWd793 pic.twitter.com/32HlHaTiE3

— Malcolm Harris (@BigMeanInternet) March 3, 2020

mookieproof, Tuesday, 3 March 2020 19:02 (four years ago) link

mad max: the prequel

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!šŸ˜‚ (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 3 March 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

starting to think that in a weird way, this might be our best (only?) opportunity to get back on a decent track for emissions reductions. i assume there will be a significant emissions dip this year. we're pouring trillions back into the economy, which is another way of saying we're re-building portions of the economy. i don't think there's a good chance in the United States, politically, but at least there is some chance that the priority would be making sure that the part of the economy that is rebuilt is far greener than before.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:06 (four years ago) link

unless global dimming turns out to be a real issue and lower emissions reduces it and then weā€™re even more fucked haha oh god iā€™m gonna lie down

a struggle to make meat-snacking fit (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

McKibben, New Yorker (March 20)

One of the best chances to make some positive use of the coronavirus pandemic may be passing swiftly. As the economy craters, big corporations are in need of government assistance, and, on Capitol Hill, the sound of half a trillion dollars in relief money is bringing out the lobbyists. On Thursday afternoon, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse, Democrat of Rhode Island, described the scene as a ā€œtroughā€ and mentioned a quote from a lobbyist in The Hill: ā€œEverybodyā€™s asking for something and those that arenā€™t asking for something only arenā€™t because they donā€™t know how.ā€ Whitehouse added, ā€œI fear that enviros donā€™t know how to ask, because, so far in this scrum, we havenā€™t heard much from them.ā€

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:34 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

The drop in global GHG emissions in 2020 is utterly unprecedented. (Great chart from @AxiosVisuals.) https://t.co/K02H7SVZXv pic.twitter.com/3U1clZB5FZ

— David Roberts (@drvox) May 2, 2020

let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Already the rainiest May in Chicago history ... for the third year in a row.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link

it has been insane in Wisconsin - honestly thought our basement was gonna flood. Half my yard was underwater

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 01:18 (three years ago) link

do not worry - god has made a covenant with the people to earth to never again destroy them with a great flood

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

That seems like a peculiarly narrow covenant. I'd like to know who drew up the original papers on that and how they were getting paid.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 20 May 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

one of them had complete leverage in the negotiations, i'd guess

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link

Omnipresent Leverage is the name of my new band

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 May 2020 04:11 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

97F in arctic siberia tomorrow, and 90+ for rest of week. Thats inland, but even Chersky on the siberian arctic coast, will be 85

cherry blossom, Sunday, 21 June 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

Incredible, and frightening: this is the northernmost 100Ā°F reading ever reliably observed. https://t.co/O99EHKURHx

— Bob Henson (@bhensonweather) June 20, 2020

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 June 2020 04:53 (three years ago) link

northernmost latitudes are having another incredibly hot summer. globally, it seems likely to be the hottest year ever. i was expecting covid-related declines. i have no idea whether there's a lag, or this is surprising, or what. but i wouldn't discount the still tbd factor of feedback loops, some of which may have recently passed one or more tipping points, enough to counteract recent manufacturing/energy declines (energy use is supposed to be down 6% this year according to IEA)

time is running out to pitch in $5 (Karl Malone), Monday, 22 June 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

> i was expecting covid-related declines

there may be a decline in ghg emissions this year but that means nothing in the short or long terms, the added CO2 from the last 2 centuries remains in the atmosphere and ocean

maybe less was added this year than expected but that's probably be more emissions than in 2000 or whatever
the hole is still being dug, more slowly than last year but still faster than any year in the 20th century

chihuahuau, Monday, 22 June 2020 16:19 (three years ago) link

yea to the extent I really get anything about this a drop in emissions now isn't really gonna effect much in the short term, but it might make a dent in the longer term

being only down 6% is pretty depressing though imo

frogbs, Monday, 22 June 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

i think greta thunberg said that this year we're all the way down to levels last seen in...... 2006

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 June 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

the thing that makes me a tiny bit optimistic is that we've at least been forced into a blueprint of what massive societal change + some form of decarbonization looks like. we've still got a really long way to go obviously but if we can at least make working from home a normalized and standard thing, I mean, it's something, I'll take any fucking good news whatsoever at this point

frogbs, Monday, 22 June 2020 16:31 (three years ago) link

for sure

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 June 2020 17:02 (three years ago) link

If there was to be a marginal climate effect from Covid-19, it would have been to very slightly warm the planet, due to the reduction of sulfate aerosols while China was shut down, and high altitude contrails with the reduction in air travel. Both affect albedo on short timescales, while the CO2 will be with us for thousands of years.

4'33" at an abattoir (Sanpaku), Thursday, 25 June 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

Korean researchers create heavy-metal and rare-earth-element-free solar panels

They don't say the efficiency numbers in the summary, but supposedly they are comparable to current solar panels.

DJI, Friday, 26 June 2020 21:28 (three years ago) link

forgot a dash. The researchers aren't heshers.

DJI, Friday, 26 June 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Meanwhile, in the Arctic:

https://i.imgur.com/e9X9u4h.png

other than if you look South and West (Sanpaku), Sunday, 26 July 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

I just realized the Arctic heat wave has been going on for a month since it hit 100Ā° F in Siberia.

Last night I was watching Frozen Planet (cause it makes me feel cool) but had to skip through the bits with baby polar bears, with Attenborough explaining how hard it is for the mama bear to find food even in a normal Arctic summer. Sorry just trying to brighten your day!

locked in a death spiral of vindictive gatekeeping (viborg), Sunday, 26 July 2020 23:28 (three years ago) link

six months pass...

Which GOP asshole was it that brought a snowball to congress to prove global warming was not a thing? Was that Inhofe from OK? I'm sure the fact that there are sub freezing temperatures in TX and the entire state is under a winter storm watch will only reaffirm that everything is just fine.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 15 February 2021 17:34 (three years ago) link

It was Inhofe that disproved climate change with a snowball, yes

Zach_TBD (Karl Malone), Monday, 15 February 2021 17:36 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2021-energy-land-use-economy/

The U.S. Will Need a Lot of Land for a Zero-Carbon Economy

One thing we're definitely short on: land.

Joe Bombin (milo z), Friday, 30 April 2021 22:44 (two years ago) link

here the liberals go again, all this uncarbonous power and how are they going to land for it?!

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Friday, 30 April 2021 23:44 (two years ago) link

The one thing which must never ever be mentioned in connection to reducing the greenhouse gas output of the USA economy, even in a whisper, are the concepts of wasting less energy, using less energy, consuming less of anything, making any noticeable sacrifices of any kind, or changing one's habits in any way. The very mention of any of these concepts is taboo among climate change activists, even among themselves, lest word leak out to the general public that addressing climate change might require any one of these eventualities.

Shhh. Don't tell anyone I said so.

sharpening the contraindications (Aimless), Saturday, 1 May 2021 03:47 (two years ago) link

wait, where's that from?

Bobo Honk, real name, no gimmicks (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 1 May 2021 12:00 (two years ago) link

two weeks pass...

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