Literary Clusterfucks 2013

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"This is akin to putting a neo-Nazi in charge of a UN human rights committee," she wrote

lmao astonishing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

it's true that neo-Nazis spend most of their time calling out other people's racism

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

good thing they never put horrible human rights abusers in charge of UN human rights committees amirite

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

do we start a new thread when we hit 2,014 clusterfucks?

rob, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

feels like we're close

rob, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

I appreciate that the story about a genre fiction scandal is being reported by an organ whose name sounds like a genre fiction scandal

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

omg wins

imago, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

lmao

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

Good on Nora Roberts though.

☮️ (peace, man), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

No longer a member of Romance Writers of America, the best-selling writer said that she became disillusioned in 2005, when top leaders drafted a statement defining romance as between a man and a woman

bigotry is not funny, but the use of 'romance' throughout that article as if the RWA is legislating romance itself is kind of lol

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

better than the SFWA, which defines Science as "a thing girls don't like."

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link

? SFWA is currently headed by a woman and I'm had women among its founding members (Kate Wilhelm at the very least, iirc)

which is not to claim that SF wasn't a deeply sexist genre for decades but still

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

I'm

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:04 (four years ago) link

is joke aiui

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

Nora Roberts's statement isn't totally accurate, but it was definitely a bad move from RWA.
https://allaboutromance.com/defining-romance-does-rwa-finally-have-it-right/

wasdnuos (abanana), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

lol wins

maura, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

2005 was a fiery time for the RWA. It seems as if someone at RWA got tired of telling people that romance fiction isn’t just “smut for women” and tried making romance more respectable.

i read a lot of romance as an adolescent BECAUSE i discovered that it was smut for women. discovered in the MOST PERTINENT POSSIBLE WAY

j., Thursday, 9 January 2020 01:03 (four years ago) link

2020 off with a bang in the SFF field:

http://file770.com/clarkesworld-removes-isabel-falls-story/

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link

Literacy was a mistake.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:38 (four years ago) link

That being said, 'I Sexually Identify as an Attack Helicopter' is a well-known alt-right catchphrase. If the story isn't intent on deconstructing that association, I'd say it's fair to file it under 'transphobic'.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:40 (four years ago) link

well good thing they removed the story so we can't see whether it was or not

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

In the above image, a commenter reports that Fall is a trans woman who has requested that her story be withdrawn, wants her payment donated to charity, was trying to subvert anti-trans rhetoric, and is withdrawing all future work. A later comment says that she's not doing well.

— whistling in the dark (@M_L_Clark) January 14, 2020

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

I read it, am very certain it was intent on deconstructing that association.

emil.y, Thursday, 16 January 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

I have no idea why people write anything other than transparently unequivocal first-person sentences they'd abide by in a court of law.

pomenitul, Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

You can read it archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20200115052857/http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/fall_01_20/

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 January 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link

Writing where the genres identify as 'communities', such as YA, sci fi, romance, are always the ones that go apeshit.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:48 (four years ago) link

The conclusion: http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/fall_01_20/

it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:40 (four years ago) link

Victorian poet Michael Field was nominated as poet laureate: then it was discovered he was actually two lesbians writing under a pseudonym.

Literature academic @drsarahparker explains. https://t.co/unYQ2uRhrs

— The Conversation (@ConversationUK) February 3, 2020

j., Tuesday, 4 February 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link

xpost -- funnily enough, I was just thinking of Michael Field the other day -- read a biography about their life and work some years back.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 February 2020 17:15 (four years ago) link

https://www.vulture.com/2020/02/representation-matters-penguin-diverse-editions.html

This week, Penguin Random House and Barnes & Noble announced their collaborative effort to, as they put it, “champion the need for diversity in literature.” Timed to Black History Month, the “Diverse Editions” initiative, would have sold a “reimagined collection” of classics “re-outfitted” with covers featuring non-white protagonists. The insides of these books, which includes titles such as Romeo and Juliet, Alice in Wonderland, Moby Dick, and Frankenstein (in which not Dr. Frankenstein, but his inhuman creature is rendered as a black masculine Neanderthal with a fade), were to remain as is. According to the press release, the works were selected with the assistance of an A.I. tasked with mining the text of “100 classic literature books” in order to pick out occasions in which a main character’s race is kept opaque — “assumed” rather than stated plainly. Diverse Editions was rightfully ridiculed for thinking canonical exclusion ought to be remedied cover-first. Days later, after a public backlash, the effort was scrapped.

actually i have read in thomas dunn's 'loneliness as a way of life' an argument that ishmael is pip therefore ishmael is black

j., Sunday, 9 February 2020 05:13 (four years ago) link

You thought Dennis Cooper was fiction huh

imago, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

Still talking about Matzneff on the 11th of February 2020? Damn, the NYT is late af.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

To clarify: The Guardian published an article about it not too long after the news broke in France.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:08 (four years ago) link

According to the press release, the works were selected with the assistance of an A.I.

glad to see tay is still getting work

you know my name, look up the number of the beast (rushomancy), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

j. do you have a copy of the ishmael-is-pip piece, it sounds my kind of thing but i can only find firewalled copies of it

(pausing only to note that its author is called not dunn but dumm) (so even more my kind of thing amirite)

mark s, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:26 (four years ago) link

Yeah, pom, but NYT got an interview with Metzeff. It's a good article. Delves into the network surrounding him a bit.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link

Ah, fair enough. I'll check it out then.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link

Surprised the American Dirt fiasco hasn't cropped up here yet

akm, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:04 (four years ago) link

I brought it up via a NYT link some time ago but nobody felt like discussing it. Old hat by now, I suppose.

toilet-cleaning brain surgeon (pomenitul), Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

mark: haven't read the article but i snagged a copy of the book for you, check fb dms.

j., Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

ooh thank you :)

mark s, Tuesday, 11 February 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

the entire romance writers of america board of directors has now resigned

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

I find myself wondering if this mass resignation was due to ethical considerations or because what they thought would be a prestige citation on their CV wasn't fun anymore.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

xpost -- funnily enough, I was just thinking of Michael Field the other day -- read a biography about their life and work some years back.

― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, February 4, 2020 9:15 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

reading about Michael Field and their milieu is very interesting, i mean even if you ignore the whole incestuous auntie/niece victorian poetry duo aspect. their family were southcottians with links also to radical politics, which can take you down some interesting rabbit-holes

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:03 (four years ago) link

oh aye, they ended up converting to catholicism also iirc?

frederik b. godt (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 12 February 2020 21:04 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

probably first use of "paranormal MPreg romances" in the nytimes

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/23/business/omegaverse-erotica-copyright.html

JoeStork, Sunday, 24 May 2020 07:40 (three years ago) link

I am sorry I was not aware of "cockygate" until now, that sounds like a good one.

Tim, Sunday, 24 May 2020 08:19 (three years ago) link


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