US Politics, January 2020. Because we hate ourselves.

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articles of impeachment are like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKMYs-9LW2w

and i approve this message (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

never wanna think about "starch" and "Schumer's shorts."

All the other metaphors that came to mind were worse.

Miami weisse (WmC), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

maybe i'm giving the democrats too much credit, but right now i like to think they're trying to figure out via informal lines of communication what bolton would say if they got him on the record.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

"baba booey"

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

bolton's timing with the whole 'escalating WWIII' thing is interesting. he suddenly made his availability to testify known after the assassination. one would think that he would pleased with the assassination, since it could lead to the war he so desperately wants. but his announcement immediately freaked the GOP out. maybe bolton was alarmed by the way the assassination was approved so haphazardly, and finally realized that yeah, it's time to impeach the motherfucker since he's the dumbest person in the solar system (want to make sure to include orbiting astronauts)? or was his timing purely coincidental?

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

there's a lot of really weird shit going on right now, of which we have very little information. ah, reminds me of the mid-90s, kinda comforting. along the same lines is the "imminent threat" that led to the assassination. pretty clear now there was no imminent threat, based upon 1) the trump administration lying about matters big and small from the very first second they were sworn in, 2) the lack of a consistent explanation of what the threat was or could be, and 3) the lack of any evidence for an imminent threat

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link

ah, reminds me of the mid-90s

lol i saw a youtube comment (on the music video for stone temple pilots' "interstate love song") that said "bring back 1994, put 2019 in the trash" and i was like... hmmmmmm

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:34 (four years ago) link

obv they were referring to music but i was still like "lol"

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

🎵 promises of what I seemed to be 🎵

💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:39 (four years ago) link

So the House can absolutely subpoena Bolton, but there's no guarantee he'd honor it.
I'm a little surprised they don't seem to be doing much of anything at the moment. I think the House should continue to hold hearings if they aren't getting cooperation from the Senate.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

In letter and spirit not what the Constitution says, nor what Hamilton explicates in the Federalist papers concerning impeachment. https://t.co/OFG4OKFmMn

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 6, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 20:32 (four years ago) link

meanwhile Mindy Moderate has spoken:

Susan] Collins told reporters at Monday evening votes that the Senate should follow the 1999 precedent and consider the question of subpoenaing additional witnesses and documents only after House impeachment managers and Trump’s defense team present their opening arguments.
She noted in a statement Monday that then-Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott (R-Miss.) and Democratic Leader Tom Daschle (D-S.D.) adopted a resolution in 1999 to set out the rules for the proceeding that didn't include any agreement for specific witnesses to testify.

“The process moved to a period during which the Senate debated and voted that three witnesses should be deposed. I believe that this process — the Clinton approach — worked well,” she said. Murkowski also urged colleagues to follow the path laid out during the Clinton trial. “I think we need to do what they did the last time they did this unfortunate process and that was to go through a first phase and then they reassessed after that,” she told reporters.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link

Yes because the same Mitch McConnell that refused to confirm Merrick Garland based on some complete bullshit could definitely be trusted to run a straightforward senate trial.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

why don't schumer/pelosi just go ahead and formally say they'd like to hear from trump during the trial, in addition to the other four? he's the one at the center of this. he probably WANTS to do it, since he loves being on tv and thinks he can convincingly talk himself out of anything.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

hell, we can even throw in a sweetener: his entire testimony could take place under the deafening roar of helicopter blades, his favorite place to discuss important matters

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

ideally schedule that for October 28

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

I read today that nothing is stopping hte House from subpoena-ing Bolton. They could do that and create or amend the articles. They could even do this after sending the articles to the Senate. I don't know why they haven't yet. Maybe they will.

akm, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

i think they should. he obviously wants to speak. he just wants to be forced to speak. go ahead house, force him to speak!

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

my rep tweeted 'shopped pic of Obama & Iranian Prez. When called out on it, he apologized profusely and vowed to be more careful with what info he shares online. Lol jk here's his response:

Gosar later sought to deflect criticism with more tweets disparaging those who ridiculed him, especially in the media.

"To the dim witted reporters ... no one said this wasn’t photoshopped. No one said the president of Iran was dead. No one said Obama met with Rouhani in person. The tweet says: 'the world is a better place without either of them in power'.

"The point remains to all but the dimmest: Obama coddled, appeased, nurtured and protected the worlds No. 1 sponsor of terror. The world is better without Obama as president. The world will be better off without Rouhani."

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 23:03 (four years ago) link

as we all know, every time you tweet a pic that is NOT 'shopped, it's customary to label it as such. Otherwise, everyone just assumes every pic is 'shopped.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

sometimes I am amazed that this shithead was voted into office...but then I take a look at some of my neighbors and it makes more sense

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link

"The world will be better off without Rouhani." Does Gosar know that Rouhani wasn't the one who was killed? Also Rouhani is relatively moderate as far as Iran goes? And also Rouhani doesn't have much power? fuck Gosar to death.

akm, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link

n.b. Bolton said he would comply with a _Senate_ subpoena, not a House one.

Because the gop majority Senate is not going to subpoena anyone, certainly not him, this is pretty much like saying you'd accept an invitation to become queen of England.

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 00:51 (four years ago) link

Exactly

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link

even if he does testify and brings the goods "you can't impeach the president, we're at war now"

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 01:08 (four years ago) link

n.b. Bolton said he would comply with a _Senate_ subpoena, not a House one.

I get the reasoning but I think i think Bolton would look extremely bad if he didn’t comply with a house subpoena, especially if they subpoenaed him in response to the senate not doing it.

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 01:15 (four years ago) link

I agree, if the senate won't commit to it, the house should definitely subpoena him, and take him to court if necessary

Dan S, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

Bolton is very careful to differentiate among those he thinks will disapprove of his statements or actions. He will continue to duck any House subpoena on his previously stated grounds, because he doesn't fear reprisals from Democrats. otoh, keeping in the good graces of the Republicans will ensure him a comfortable future, a good income, continuing political influence, and probably another stint in a high official position.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 01:24 (four years ago) link

Bolton’s offer to testify is only so he can publish his book without getting blowback

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

the GOP, a study in contrasts

Natl Security officials gave a compelling briefing to Senators just now. They answered every important question.

Anyone who walks out & says they aren’t convinced action against #Soleimani was justified is either never going to be convinced or just oppose everything Trump does.

— Marco Rubio (@marcorubio) January 8, 2020

vs

Mike Lee calls Iran briefing “probably the worst briefing at least on a military issue I’ve seen,” adding that it was “insulting” to be told by administration officials not to debate merits of taking military action

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 8, 2020


A ticked off Mike Lee says the Iran briefing was so bad it changed his mind on Kaine’s war powers resolution, and now he’s going to support it

— Igor Bobic (@igorbobic) January 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

lool

“I walked into the briefing undecided. I walked out decided,” @SenMikeLee says announcing support for Dem war powers resolution. @RandPaul agrees.
Lee’s words describing briefing: “.. un-American, unconstitutional ... wrong ... insulting ... completely unacceptable.”

— Paul Kane (@pkcapitol) January 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

I'm kind of curious what happened to make it THAT bad

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

lmao spicy

There's more: @MikeLeeforUtah says that after today's "stunt" (aka the briefing he's not happy with), "I'm willing to consider and introduce any and every war powers resolution."

— Elizabeth Landers (@ElizLanders) January 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

Lindsey Graham grabbed his ass

papa stank (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

Oh come on, like that's never happened before

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

Republican senator Mike Lee blasts the Trump administrations post-Iran briefing, says they were told they could not dissent from Trump, couldn't debate it, and if Trump needed justification to go to war "I'm sure we could think of something" pic.twitter.com/bfyPqoSf8c

— Andrew Lawrence (@ndrew_lawrence) January 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link

Fox News cut away from Republican Sen. Mike Lee as he excoriated the Trump admin’s Soleimani briefing as “probably the worst briefing at least on a military issue I’ve seen.” pic.twitter.com/736Qtd6bWZ

— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) January 8, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

New Matmos record leaked:

58 times. He sniffed 58 times during his address. Here are all of them. pic.twitter.com/GoAIfsfdLd

— Timothy Burke (@bubbaprog) January 8, 2020

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

Someone who's been on camera his entire adult life and doesn't know how to back the fuck off a mic. One of the very few rudimentary skills anyone else in his shoes would have mastered long ago.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

Is it a really important detail to know how many times he sniffed

papa stank (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link

he sniffs when he's racked up in order to try and seem sane and coherent for a camera

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 22:35 (four years ago) link

I mean this is just basic stuff

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/30/I_move_away_from_the_mic_to_breathe_in.jpg

frogbs, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

Meagan Daily has lost her mind:

The populist mood persisted and found expression on the Left. There was Occupy Wall Street. There was Black Lives Matter. And then, most fearsome of all, there was the Bernie Sanders campaign, with its unexpectedly popular message of democratic socialism — even in Fox country. It was up to a few clever conservatives to rethink the movement’s strategy. The smartest among them have always known that conservatism’s long-term survival hinges on preventing the working-class portion of its base from heeding the siren song of the Left.

Enter Donald Trump, a man apart. A billionaire, yes, but one who had little reverence for the stodgy experts whose graphs proved the struggling worker was a loser worthy of his lot. Trump spoke of the need to stay out of costly and stupid military adventures while people back home struggled to put food on the table. He promised to stop trade deals that bled jobs from whole regions, leaving husks of towns beleaguered by poverty and drug addiction and engulfed in gloom.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

Trump spoke of the need to stay out of costly and stupid military adventures... He promised to stop trade deals that bled jobs...

Trump definitely spoke those things and promised those things, but he spoke ten times as much about his stupid border wall and how nasty immigrants were and how deceitful journalists were and how Chy-nuh was our enemy and how amazingly astute he was. Those other things were just sidecars to the main issues of racism, xenophobia, and hatred of liberals.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 9 January 2020 00:49 (four years ago) link

New Matmos record leaked:

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, January 8, 2020 5:17 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 9 January 2020 01:30 (four years ago) link

this is fine

NEW: Today Trump will propose rolling back a bedrock environmental law, exempting projects without significant federal funding from environmental reviews that have been required for 50 years. By @eilperin and @brady_dennis https://t.co/7V39YDZdSA

— Carol Leonnig (@CarolLeonnig) January 9, 2020

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

sounds tailor made for his wall

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

not sure how to reconcile the fact that 1) most people think a prominent supreme court attempt to repeal the ACA this year would be bad electoral politics for the GOP, and so only worth doing if you expect to win the case 2) quite a lot of the GOP seems to be operating on the assumption that the case doesn't stand a chance.

"The entire ACA is unconstitutional because the mandate penalty remains law but is currently $0!"

"Cool story, guys. Anyway, we're expanding Medicaid under the ACA."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) January 9, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 9 January 2020 17:00 (four years ago) link


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