Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

Ocasio-Cortez isn't wrong about Biden. In Britain he'd be "One Nation" Tory, she'd be old Labour. People here think the Democrats are fundamentally a labor movement, but they're not. They're Jeffersonian.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 6, 2020

btw i never get tired of being accused of being a Trumpist here even if it's not by the intel guy

for the record, i wasn't accusing you of being a trumpist, i just a) saw an opportunity for a quick zing and b) think that isolationism isn't supportable when human civilisation as we know it is literally gonna end, and soon, unless superhuman levels of international collaboration start happening

human civilisation as we know it is literally gonna end, and soon, unless superhuman levels of international collaboration start happening

You knew, even as you typed all that, that he's inevitably gonna pretend to think that's a good thing for nihilist cool points, right?

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i'm no nihilist and fuck you

i'm talking isolationism as in NO MILITARY INTERVENTION EVER

i even voted for that war criminal in the gif in a primary once

you know what feels like nihilism tho? Late capitalism, esp as perpetrated on the poor and sick.

I hope Abrams concentrates on voting rights work until she can run for governor again in 2022. Pundits have been talking about Georgia turning purple for a long time, but the only way I see that happening in the next few years is if she's at the top of the state ticket again.

Abrams' experience in state politics is deep but doesn't give her much of a story to tell about VP qualifications -- especially important for someone backing up an elderly presidential nominee.

otm

After firing all her staff last week @marwilliamson has begun writing her own fundraising emails...🔮😂 pic.twitter.com/9FoEkwDWVK

— Kyle Tharp (@kylewilsontharp) January 6, 2020

I don't think there are any actual intelligence analysts who believe this "culture of martyrdom" stuff. This is message-board level analysis from former Mayor Buttigieg... https://t.co/h5RUvDMoha pic.twitter.com/7Vyolqppaw

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) January 6, 2020

Damn, Ryan didn't have to slam us that hard

he's just mad because he got suggest banned

If Buttigieg posted an Osama thumbsup id vote for him

read it as "culture of mayordom"

other than his usual ability to say precisely nothing in so many words, what’s objectionable about that?

Lol "strong words"

xp, there is a recurring cliche about Iranians that they prioritise the opportunity to be martyred over all else - which at a low level leads to lousy analysis of strategic motivations and, at worst, feeds into the fantasy that the Iranian government is looking to build nuclear weapons to bring about the apocalypse.

should be noted that shia islamists use "martyrdom operations" less often than many other groups (secular leftist and arab nationalist parties in the lebanese civil war were more likely to employ the tactic than islamic jihad/hezbollah)

feeds into the fantasy that the Iranian government is looking to build nuclear weapons to bring about the apocalypse.

― ShariVari, Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:27 PM (nine minutes ago)

presumably they are looking to build nuclear weapons so the US will think twice before droning them

fyi, there are quite a few americans - many millions - who interpret politics through the lens of "how will this bring about the apocalypse?"

oh ffs

For the love of godpic.twitter.com/47dhlK6hLj

— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) January 8, 2020

meanwhile, amy klobuchar is looking more and more presidential

Democratic candidate Amy Klobuchar falsely claimed last night that Iran is now, because of Trump, "announcing that they're going to start developing a nuclear weapon." Iran has made no such announcement, continues to say it isn't pursuing a nuclear weapon: https://t.co/BOAm2ogC1c

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 7, 2020

not sure i understand what’s laughable about the double selfies thing

cool clip tho

someone posted the howard dean clip in the replies which is almost close to self-aware

Do people actually think she’s being serious when she says “never before seen in history”?

the phrase "folds like a cheap umbrella" comes to mind

Under questioning from @MeghanMcCain, @ewarren — who called Soleimani's killing "an assassination” — now says “of course” he’s a terrorist pic.twitter.com/nS4OCRFdv8

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) January 7, 2020

does it? She withstood those idiotic questions rather well.

He can be many things, including a terrorist. I mean, you like Spielberg and the Smiths.

did you watch the clip or just read the tweet from the guy who thinks Soleimani wasn't a terrorist

(double) selfies is very dumb and frivolous but people queue for zillions of hours to take them with her after she spends an hour or two explaining policies and funding to them, so if it makes those people feel better engaged with a candidate, or talk to fellow voters about the country & the election, or gives the campaign a chance to sign folks up to mailing lists or whatnot, good for everyone

c'mon, man, this is Morbs, for whom any candidate not Sanders is a Target umbrella.

cheap and expensive umbrellas seem to fold the same way afaict

if anything the pricier ones should fold a little more smoothly

speaking of Target umbrellas, I got this reversible one last year real cheap:

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1494/8004/products/Double-Layer-Reverse-Umbrella-Big-Double-Layer-Inside-Inverted-Upside-Down-Windproof-Umbrella-Self-Standing_2000x.jpg?v=1537298287

this whole q is he or is he not a terrororist is so stupid, yes he's a terrorist in the same regard that Donald Trump is a terrorist, no he's not a terrorist in that he hed up the army of a nation of 80 million people. There's no reason to capitulate on such a dumb argument from meghan mccain of all people

I love EW but she has to get better at holding her ground on some of these these things. Call it what it was, like your opponent did: an assassination

she did

c'mon, man, this is Morbs, for whom any candidate not Sanders is a Target umbrella.

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:43 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

if Warren had called Obama a terrorist she'd be his new #1

xp I mean be consistent about it, say that in response to this question

(plz never change morbs <3)

i get it xp

like i understand the disappointment and yet i'm still just sorta like... whatever

Hadrian otm

yes Alfred, Sanders is the only non-coward still standing.

The measured, intelligent response in that situation is "Your dad was a terrorist, you load."

You must feel a lot of relief that no one is going to force you to vote for Warren in the primary.

I think the dnc will have neutralized Bernie by then

It's possible, but I think it's just as likely that Bernie will win this thing.

neutralize him with millions of votes for other candidates.

The DNC has been a lot more succesful neutralizing Warren. If I was in Iowa, I would vote for Bernie.

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— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) January 9, 2020

science has determined the winner, all speculation is over