star wars 9 grim resignation thread

the Reddit thread about JJB being a covert Sith was both convincing in evidence (mouthing others’ dialogue as they say it, Jedi level acrobatics and fighting) and a good explanation of the Phantom Menace title. I do wish that had been the way Lucas went.

Rewatched the prequel trilogy again this past weekend. I feel as if it takes on an entirely different place, now... given that it's no longer "the last thing we're getting", it feels somewhat less-important, more effervescent, and thus more enjoyable. I said earlier in this thread that I definitely underrated Lucas's skill at creating a feasible narrative for Palpatine, his machinations and deceptions feel very well-rendered and convincing.

I have always kind of repped for Episode 1, given that podracing and Darth Maul provided some genuinely thrilling moments. Episode 3 on second-viewing is genuinely moving in places, even if Palpatine's "I'm the Sith Lord btw" reveal is clumsy. Overall, the dialogue of the trilogy, which is dreadful, kind of has its charm at this point, it seems no-less-offensive or annoying than any Marvel movie.

But the real Achilles heel, interestingly, is the action in the second half of Episode 2. People focus on the romance falling flat (and it does, sure) but the entire Geonosis sequence (factory, gladiator arena, droids vs. clones, chasing after Dooku, final showdown) is so wretchedly rendered and storyboarded, it's a painfully bad bit of visual storytelling.

I will say that, based on what I've seen so far, there's very little in Jar Jar's Clone Wars appearances that contradicts that theory.

the dialogue of the trilogy, which is dreadful, kind of has its charm at this point

this bowl of shit tastes delicious if you just keep eating it!

both the star wars 9 anticipation thread and the star wars 9 spoilers thread are now simultaneously about the prequels: justice

xpost Feel like you said exactly that like four days ago.

But then so have the rest of us at this point, so.

it's all a rich tapestry

for someone who hates the taste of shit, you sure hang around a lot with people eating it. like you want the smell but not the taste.

I mean

The romance shit just floats by unobtrusively. The "my young Padawan learner" doesn't ruffle me any more. What grates most, oddly enough, 20 years on, is all the Yoda inversions and 3P-isms

When Anakin is like "I hate sand" I felt like "well, these people ARE aliens, it would make sense that their methods of seduction seem alien to me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmHvUX2iuJE

i know i posted the "padmé and anakin looking through windows" scene upthread but how good is the fucking music too

for someone who hates the taste of shit, you sure hang around a lot with people eating it. like you want the smell but not the taste.

hey I'm not the one putting this thread at the top of Site New Answers for over a month. It's more like the river of shit just carries me along and every now and then I feel it's my duty to remind people that the river is, in fact, made of shit.

sand speech is good. the boy just longs for order

i also hate sand for similar reasons

brings us back to

Are the people in the Star Wars movies humans?

Palpatine being all like "*sigh* wish Amidala were here to propose such a thing as my seizure of power", pretending not to notice Jar Jar's attention, segueing into "MY DELLOW FELEGATES!" was very enjoyable

xxxxpost so you're the Cassandra of Shit?

John Williams is probably at this point underrated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52wByO_SFxA

so fuckin sick

I mean I do my best to get other threads to the top of Site New Answers but ppl love their Shit Wars more than the Bee Gees and Ari Aster I guess

for a second I thought Immolation wrote a Star Wars song and got excited. then I remembered that immolation was a word that long predates blast beats

Episode 2 has about 10 seconds tucked into a battle sequence where John Williams wrote the theme song to Game of Thrones, btw, noticed that

sand speech is good. the boy just longs for order

What is it, my young Padawan learner, that repulses you personally about the desert?
It's clean.

for someone who hates the taste of shit, you sure hang around a lot with people eating it. like you want the smell but not the taste.

― papa stank (Neanderthal),

now carve into a Williams-esque stanza.

Alfred's here so I can quickly add that JW's score for JFK really grounds the insanity from the start, it helps guide you into the conspiracy zone.

xxp ha, desert to lawrence there stands for basically the opposite, no? (p much the difference you'd expect between a tatooine native and a desert-loving english.) to anakin the sand "gets everywhere". (little dots, way down there.) he likes engines, machines, things that work just so; when they are breaking down, corrupted and damaged, full of sand, he fixes them-- cleans them-- so that they work properly again. later, the person he admires as "smooth" will be on the verge of death, and so will the republic. what will he do?

I mean I do my best to get other threads to the top of Site New Answers but ppl love their Shit Wars more than the Bee Gees and Ari Aster I guess

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, January 14, 2020 2:55 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

like movie theater attendance records, the most popular threads aren't a mark of quality of interestingness, just a common boring culture that might reach above mediocrity that we can all bond over

only paying attention to most popular threads is like standing in the middle of the river when it's fun to swim out there sometimes but the majority of time is fun on the shores and in the shallows (niche threads)

fred in the other thread that's the same as this thread made me think more about rough vs smooth--

It has become quite a bit muddled over time, but I think technology vs nature was a big part of the subtext at the beginning of the saga. The Stormtroopers and Darth Vader and the Imperial Pilots are kinda inhumane, like robots, while all the Rebels are living beings. Luke has to turn off the computer and shoot with the force!

in anakin's formative years as a slave he has no control over his own body or life-- but he has control over the pod, and his (congenitally subservient) droid, and later over any spaceship he touches. with freedom perhaps he expects to gain the kind of mastery over himself that he has always had over machines. but he doesn't, and yoda and his pathological order (out-of-balance ever since the sith schism imo) keep rebuking him for his impulsiveness, only filling him with more desire for this impossible state of control. eventually, his rough body burns away, and machines build him a smooth shining machine to live in.

*ho per*

Inside this suit, everything is... soft... and smooth

*ho per*

(he also makes a slave of himself again, as if coming home) xp lolll

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOQUuhdWkAEiydx?format=jpg&name=large

original Star Wars 9 plot leaked:

https://theplaylist.net/duel-of-the-fates-leak-colin-trevorrow-star-wars-20200114/

i posted that over in the spoilers thread - sounds like a better movie!

Taika Waititi is set to direct a ‘BABU FRIK’ Star Wars spin-off. (Source: @THR) pic.twitter.com/FPHl9nnDRD

— DiscussingFilm (@DicsussingFilm) January 16, 2020

o fuck

Good news all round!

J.J. Abrams is set to write and direct a remake of ‘STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI’. The film is eyeing a 2023 release date. (Source: @ManaByte) pic.twitter.com/1QpzLVRxFF

— DiscussingFilm (@DicsussingFilm) January 15, 2020

Shame on me for believing that!

mods pls delete the babu frik movie post before mh sees it and it breaks his heart

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EOasrcvX0AA4HmQ?format=jpg&name=large

Beautiful.

mods pls delete the babu frik movie post before mh sees it and it breaks his heart

― que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Friday, January 17, 2020 4:14 AM (four hours ago)

who do you think their anonymous source was?

tbrr I am all for spreading the most ridiculous misinformation about future star war projects

without a near-term announced project, those fan clicks are drying up and we've gotta get the dream alive

Alfred's here so I can quickly add that JW's score for JFK really grounds the insanity from the start, it helps guide you into the conspiracy zone.

― omar little,

Just more scenery for the public.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/scottmendelson/2020/01/19/box-office-rise-of-skywalker-turned-lucasfilm-star-wars-into-a-6-billion-wash-for-disney/

I wouldn't be surprised if it has been addressed, but is the guy being a janitor in Force Awakens a reference to the Space Quest video games?

yes

in fact the entire 43-year history of star wars has actually been an elaborate ‘backdoor pilot’ for an even more elaborate space quest cinematic universe

https://i.imgur.com/ZEojosc.jpg

That should really be a thing. Plot twists are at saturation. There's only so many rug pulls left.

Now instead we can have movie twists, where the film turns out to be something different.

You pay for Superman 5, and the twist is you were watching the SimCity movie all along

also you're in the rebooted matrix

Didn't they try that with the Blair Witch reboot that nobody saw? It was marketed as one thing and then they surprised people the last minute by saying it was something else? That nobody wanted or wanted to see?