Vampire Weekend - Father of the Bride

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the songs on here were definitely created with the live show in mind. they're less "composed," arranged on record with the intent give the band more room to breathe in a live setting--J,NY,B is a good example. the negative space allows the players to play in a way that they're not beholden to playing a line of melody that the audience knows by heart. i agree, brad, that the strength in composition isn't as present in the arrangements in these songs (this was what rostam most notably brought to the table), but i think the bones of the songs on this one are very, very strong and it allows them to get away with sparser arrangements.

i agree about rich man. it goes nowhere (tho i do like that ukulele figure enough that the repetition doesn't drive me mad).

525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

OH CHRIST

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

put me in the 'it's charming' camp. I love the arrangements. this album makes their earlier stuff feel sophomoric by comparison

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

like, I'm starting to come round to the idea that everything on this album has been thought-through and some of the more jarring choices are very deliberate (even down to the front cover)

YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

re: their earlier stuff feeling at all sophomoric compared to this record: can't follow you there, the arrangements on contra are like dense and intricate music boxes of detail and are the reason it's one of my favorite records of the last decade

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:48 (four years ago) link

I'm the last person to praise Contra as a headphone album but there it is

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

could write a paragraph just about the number of amazing things going on in "run" alone

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:51 (four years ago) link

song is like a fucking dub remix of itself

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

in a sense it plays as a vaporwave record yet destroys the genre

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

top 5 vw songs would be "this life" and whatever 4 songs are my favourites from contra at the moment

ufo, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 04:07 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Uh oh, I never liked this band, but I started listening to Time Crisis and I'm getting Stockholm syndrome, or rather I started liking this particular album after listening to the ep that goes through all the songs.

I'm into the more stripped-down Americana/Tiny Desk vibe + interesting production touches, not so much the bigger pop songs. I'll have to make my playlist version of the record since it seems like that's the thing to do.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

Can one listen to Time Crisis without an Apple Music sun? Cause that track-by-track pod sounds relevant to my interests

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link

I found it on Google podcasts, but I think someone is 'unofficially' uploading them

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

Uh oh, I never liked this band, but I started listening to Time Crisis and I'm getting Stockholm syndrome, or rather I started liking this particular album after listening to the ep that goes through all the songs.

I'm almost with you. i never liked this band and now i kind of want to like them because i like ezra from listening to this podcast

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

(i guess it's technically not a podcast)

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 January 2020 23:56 (four years ago) link

somebody uploads time crisis to mediafire (lol) on this tumblr: https://timecrisis-withezrakoenig.tumblr.com/

in twelve parts (lamonti), Saturday, 25 January 2020 08:36 (four years ago) link

Glad it's not just me, lol. Ok here is my Sunday morning version of this record, which went over pretty well with my partner who also never liked VW:

Hold You Now
Harmony Hall
Big Blue
How Long
Unbearably White
Rich Man
Married in a Gold Rush
My Mistake
2021
Spring Snow
Jerusalem, NY, Berlin

change display name (Jordan), Monday, 27 January 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Every double album is too long: I treat this as a kind of miscellany.

(But I definitely wouldn't include My Mistake or Spring Snow on my single disc cut!)

in twelve parts (lamonti), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 08:32 (four years ago) link

I probably wouldn't either, and I would include Stranger. Maybe it's sappy, but to me it's really effectively sappy in a "This Must Be the Place" kind of way.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

Oh my playlist wasn't meant to be a best-of, just the ones that are appropriate for sipping coffee and doing crosswords on a Sunday morning without ruining the vibe.

change display name (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

Oh, that makes sense. Maybe I'll try it out next Sunday morning.

Lily Dale, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

this is me firing shots, primarily at dog latin

VW rereleased Father of the Bride and made it even more unbearable pic.twitter.com/nukazHvA6E

— DJP (@djperry1973) February 28, 2020

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Friday, 28 February 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

I'm here what's going on

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link

might buy the vinyl this weekend and play it and think about you DJP

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Saturday, 29 February 2020 10:59 (four years ago) link

Have you listened to this Jude Law nonsense yet?

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Saturday, 29 February 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link

I suppose it comes from his anime series in which J. Law plays a robot valet.
Nothing wrong with that !

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 29 February 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Worst album, still good.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 May 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

i think a lot of the underwhelmed response to father of the bride is viewing it in light of what it fails to do which the first three albums did well. which is unfair, because it's not trying to do those things. instead it has this chill late night studio head vibe going on, which i also find special in its own way.

Josh (phantompenguin), Saturday, 9 May 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

Sorry to post a link to Fallon...
https://youtu.be/fY6nvPvqpZc

AlXTC from Paris, Saturday, 9 May 2020 11:36 (three years ago) link

This is an exceptional album you guys.

― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Monday, January 6, 2020 4:19 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still is. There's so much to love about it. Hoping people will disinter this one day and hold it up as an absolute classic.

'I don't wanna live like this, but I don't wanna die' has taken on new meaning recently.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link

thankfully that lyric is also on an album that's better than this one

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

lol sorry i'm just being a jerk for fun dl

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:54 (three years ago) link

mvotc is better than fotb, but finger back is not better than this life

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 15:59 (three years ago) link

that’s basically true but do you mean harmony hall

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:02 (three years ago) link

d'oh, yes i do.

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:03 (three years ago) link

ah yes of course, it's on fingerback too which is just okay

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:20 (three years ago) link

i like finger back a lot. could be because i was on the 1 train listening to the song and ezra mentioned 103rd and broadway just as i pulled into the 103rd st station

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

it was destiny, maaan

sleight return (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:22 (three years ago) link

heard Harmony Hall playing in the supermarket yesterday, so naturally I had to pull the whole album out. genuinely, I think this album is made for me. it gives me the same 'what are they gonna pull out the back next?' feeling I used to get from when I was first getting into Aphex Twin.
I love how it feels slightly unfinished/unfussy in places but also florid and well-realised. I liked previous albums, but certain tracks on MVOTC are cluttered and chaotic and just not pleasant to listen to.
I also feel like this is their first album where they sound like themselves. Yes, there the old influences are still there, but i feel like they're less glaring. It took a while for me to stop thinking of VW as Paul Simon/GAPDY slash fiction, but this seems more like something only they could have made.
Yeah it's their 'Up', it's their 'Adore', and those fond of their more adherents rock sound will find it flimsy and indulgent. I like it for exactly those reasons

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 09:57 (three years ago) link

ugh that was all written quickly on my laggy Android phone. Sorry for typos

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 09:58 (three years ago) link

Contra seemed like pretty distinctively only something they could have made, there's enough brilliant ideas there for some bands to have made an entire career out of

ufo, Friday, 22 May 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

I'm not discounting Contra at all. it's a very good album.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Friday, 22 May 2020 11:13 (three years ago) link

Ezra spoke very well about his thoughts on FOTB's fourth-album-ness on Time Crisis the week before last.

https://timecrisis-withezrakoenig.tumblr.com/post/617840563917602816/episode-120-hbd-fotb

in twelve parts (lamonti), Friday, 22 May 2020 13:05 (three years ago) link

This remains the only VW album I can listen to. I've really come to appreciate it even more though. I think everyone else I know hates them.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 22 May 2020 19:59 (three years ago) link

nine months pass...

surprised no one has mentioned Tavi Gevinson's Britney essay which does not paint Ezra Koenig in a great light, to say the least

self-clowning oven (Murgatroid), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:03 (three years ago) link

That was him? I had no idea.

Lily Dale, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:04 (three years ago) link

it is assumed not confirmed

regardless... some real shit there

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Friday, 26 February 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link

Just re-read it. There's one detail that makes me wonder if the man specifically referred to as her abuser could have been someone else, and that's the suggestion that he was rich but not famous - she mentions getting them into parties. Not that that would let Koenig off the hook - he's still pretty clearly one of the predators she mentions (the ones who are dads now) which is bad enough. ugh.

Lily Dale, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

it certainly seemed real creepy of ezra when it seemed like he was probably dating her but this development is real bleak, if he's indeed who she's talking about there. stuff lines up well enough to make it obvious to suspect him but it's still vague enough that i'm not certain or anything

ufo, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

It would be very depressing if it turned out to be about him. Listening to a few hundred hours of Time Crisis got me through the beginning of the pandemic, definitely couldn't listen to it the same way again.

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 26 February 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link


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