Awesome psychedelic songs by (generally) non-psych bands

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this is classic ilm

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

ok I'll play the little game that I should have just ignored. How do you define psychedelic in a way that somehow excludes Can.

Or what were the credentials and the correct phrase for amounting to psychedelic.

I would think the crucial point was that the sense of hearing experienced the sound as being psychedelic hence sounding psychedelic.

Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:00 (four years ago) link

the latter is a wholly subjective category that no one will agree on, rendering the usage of the term pointless. Using the term that way doesn't tell you anything about how the music sounds, who made it when/where, how it was performed/composed/produced. All it tells anyone is that you, as a listener, associate this particular piece of music with taking psychedelic drugs. And how is that useful for anyone.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

like let's say both the Bee Gees "Red Chair Fadeaway" and Can's "Mother Sky" are considered "psychedelic". These two pieces of music have nothing in common. They don't sound similar, they weren't composed or produced in a similar style, they don't share lyrical associations, they don't share instrumentation, they were made in different times in different countries by very different sets of people - one is an abstract fairytale pop song with a mellotron and harmony vocals and the other is a ten minute long mostly instrumental chugging metallic groove with polyrhythms and a stinging electric guitar lead - why on earth would you want to group these songs together or imply that they share any musical DNA?

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

and yet, somehow, the term is used and ppl generally understand what is meant... expand yr mind & see the connections, man

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

ppl generally understand what is meant

they obviously don't, as this clusterfuck of a thread proved within the first 10 posts.

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

just to say that the first track by the loud family is a phantastic jam i didn't know before. not quite sure if i'd call it psychedelic though. it is quite heavy though. what about this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3r54Rrigr4

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

^nah

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link

I thought Gish was pretty psychedelic when I heard it around the time. Couldn't really take the voice that much though.
THink I far preferred Mercury Rev around the time.

Stevolende, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link

how about Schooly D "PSK", the sound of PCP

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:37 (four years ago) link

or Ken Nordine's "Sound Museum"

see I can list random songs too!

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

ok u win the psych award jfc

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link

the PCPGees

☮️ (peace, man), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:44 (four years ago) link

they were made in different times in different countries by very different sets of people

I don’t really get what this has to do with anything tbh. There have psych bands all over the world for like the last 50 years. And lots of them would even say that they were influenced by Can

Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

they were made in different times in different countries by very different sets of people

I don’t really get what this has to do with anything tbh. There have psych bands all over the world for like the last 50 years. And lots of them would even say that they were influenced by Can

Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

woah check out the echo in here

Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:55 (four years ago) link

Gish was written & recorded under the influence of vast amounts of LSD, so surely it literally qualifies as psychedelic music

Another possibly contentious suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qXRjEQ7eEo

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 6 January 2020 21:58 (four years ago) link

I like both "Rhinoceros" and that SY song a lot, but neither seem either "psychedelic" or "Psych" to me (tho I'm no arbiter of psych, self-proclaimed or otherwise)

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:00 (four years ago) link

gish was psychedelic that's right but the smashing weren't later on. so they belong in this thread, no?

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

What makes Gish psychedelic? The guitar pedals? It's a pretty straight-up hard rock record.

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

if this isn't psychedelic - just look at the cacti - i don't know what is. later on howe mainly travelled the american desert rock roads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3YwOYjrqbQ

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

under the influence of vast amounts of LSD, so surely it literally qualifies as psychedelic music

oh cool, didn't know "Wu-Tang Forever" was a psych record too!

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

What makes Gish psychedelic? The guitar pedals? It's a pretty straight-up hard rock record

no way. just the fact that it is my fave album of 1991 proves that it is no straight-up hard rock album. as i don't care about hard-rock at all. it is the sound effects, lots of stereo effects between the two channels. besides the silent loud dynamics and the general fucked-upness or weirdness of the sound the first time you listen to it.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-JdFM41RUg

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtiMdE23L2o

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfi7MTaI9d4

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:24 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51PP8TwXrxE

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvKjpGP6P5Y

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftSUchAdVTE

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

it is the sound effects, lots of stereo effects between the two channels. besides the silent loud dynamics and the general fucked-upness or weirdness of the sound the first time you listen to it.

Do you consider, say, Nothing's Shocking to be psychedelic?

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

xp. concerning the pogues:

so his teeth were sore from the beginning on...

quite standard rock.

the psychedelic share is below 10% i'd say.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

Like the 60s, this thread began with a lot of good music but ended in disillusion and confusion

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link

the psychedelic share is below 10% i'd say.

but Shane was taking a lot of acid at the time so it must be psychedelic music QED plus they used funny 60s visual effects in the video

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

Do you consider, say, Nothing's Shocking to be psychedelic?

i don't know it, so no. just listened to the 1st track and i would say there might be an overlap. but i wouldn't consider it standard hard-rock neither. there is a cosmic quality to it. in french they say "planant".

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:38 (four years ago) link

Possibly less contentious suggestion:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiloWOFuY08

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:39 (four years ago) link

later on the jane addiction album delves more into the boring heart of hard rock, it seems.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link

Phil Ochs - The Crucifixion

Death to (NickB), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:43 (four years ago) link

xp It has all that stuff you mention... if anything, I think it's more "psychedelic" than Gish!

BeerAdvocate in the streets, Wookiepedia in the sheets (morrisp), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQEvq2WDh9Y

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:44 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mnx8jnsYfc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:45 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4pNOBIAaLI

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlJ27Dcv4fc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-1axSGkXc

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

Phew, some people were almost having fun talking about music there for a minute, good thing you stepped in, wouldn’t want this thread to get out of hand

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:50 (four years ago) link

everything I posted was psychedelic according to at least one metric posted on this thread so far

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link

a) about psychedelics
b) made by someone on psychedelics
c) sounds "psychedelic" according to random person who has taken psychedelics
d) features "weird" sounds like stereo panning or has "dynamics" or similar

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 22:54 (four years ago) link

xp

but Shane was taking a lot of acid at the time

making music on acid does not necessarily result in psychedelic music. i missed the ;-) in your post.

i would consider om as free jazz not as psychedelic but what do i know.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link

Shakey is having a bad trip

warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 6 January 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

I'd argue a lot of Dan Deacon's stuff is pretty psychedelic, at least in the sense that say Animal Collection is

frogbs, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

I have achieved the higher stages of enlightenment, realizing that everything is psychedelic maaaaaaaaaan

Οὖτις, Monday, 6 January 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link


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