Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

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How many foreign policy voters are there in real life, and how many of them live outside northern Virginia

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:27 (four years ago) link

Miami-Dade County, and most of those vote for the GOP.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:29 (four years ago) link

all the candidates are short of my ideal: 100% isolationism

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

Choosing a veep is by definition tokenism though isn’t it? I say that while totally acknowledging that kind of calculus is far more fraught for a POC or a woman than for a middle aged white dude who happens to live in Virginia

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link

all the candidates are short of my ideal: 100% isolationism

BUILD THE WALL

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 January 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

How many foreign policy voters are there in real life, and how many of them live outside northern Virginia

Isn't this the area in which the President has the most direct control?

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

Choosing a veep is by definition tokenism though isn’t it?

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, January 6, 2020 11:56 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

2 veep candidates in the history of the usa were not white men

525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:07 (four years ago) link

hell, Vice President Charles Curtis had a native mom!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

Hahaha. pic.twitter.com/DaBUR7asQ9

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) January 6, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:11 (four years ago) link

BUILD THE WALL

― 'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, January 6, 2020

...to keep our genocidal military machine behind it

our "foreign policy" is fuckin' bombs p much

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 17:12 (four years ago) link

Choosing a veep is by definition tokenism though isn’t it?

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, January 6, 2020 11:56 AM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

2 veep candidates in the history of the usa were not white men

― 525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Monday, January 6, 2020 12:07 PM (five minutes ago)

I think evol meant that the calculus for choosing a running mate is often based on what/where they represent not their qualifications, etc.

rob, Monday, 6 January 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

and by that calculus I think she's a good choice, even if the air of inevitability about it from some pundits is def kind of odd. But Abrams as VP with a mandate to focus on voting rights makes way more sense than imagining Warren wasting her final years in public life as Sanders' VP

rob, Monday, 6 January 2020 17:16 (four years ago) link

Someone please tell the Democrats to stop preaching "learn to code" https://t.co/dDx9XUma4H

— Chafee 2020 (@lib_crusher) December 30, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:13 (four years ago) link

Former 2016 Democratic presidential candidate Lincoln Chafee is taking another shot at the White House, this time as a member of the Libertarian Party.

Chafee, who switched party affiliation in June 2019, submitted his campaign paperwork to the FEC on Sunday. His website is stamped with the logo “Lincoln Chafee, Libertarian For President.”

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

The metric system won't sell itself.

jaymc, Monday, 6 January 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link

every time I think of the Libertarian Party I can only see this amazing clip

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZITP93pqtdQ

frogbs, Monday, 6 January 2020 19:19 (four years ago) link

YOUR OWN DAMN TOASTER

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link

lmao i've never seen that before

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 6 January 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

I always think of G. Johnson gushing over mounting Everest

💠 (crüt), Monday, 6 January 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link

BUILD THE WALL

btw i never get tired of being accused of being a Trumpist here even if it's not by the intel guy

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 6 January 2020 22:10 (four years ago) link

Ocasio-Cortez isn't wrong about Biden. In Britain he'd be "One Nation" Tory, she'd be old Labour. People here think the Democrats are fundamentally a labor movement, but they're not. They're Jeffersonian.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 6, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

btw i never get tired of being accused of being a Trumpist here even if it's not by the intel guy

for the record, i wasn't accusing you of being a trumpist, i just a) saw an opportunity for a quick zing and b) think that isolationism isn't supportable when human civilisation as we know it is literally gonna end, and soon, unless superhuman levels of international collaboration start happening

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

human civilisation as we know it is literally gonna end, and soon, unless superhuman levels of international collaboration start happening

You knew, even as you typed all that, that he's inevitably gonna pretend to think that's a good thing for nihilist cool points, right?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link

i'm no nihilist and fuck you

i'm talking isolationism as in NO MILITARY INTERVENTION EVER

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:03 (four years ago) link

i even voted for that war criminal in the gif in a primary once

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link

you know what feels like nihilism tho? Late capitalism, esp as perpetrated on the poor and sick.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:49 (four years ago) link

I hope Abrams concentrates on voting rights work until she can run for governor again in 2022. Pundits have been talking about Georgia turning purple for a long time, but the only way I see that happening in the next few years is if she's at the top of the state ticket again.

Abrams' experience in state politics is deep but doesn't give her much of a story to tell about VP qualifications -- especially important for someone backing up an elderly presidential nominee.

Brad C., Tuesday, 7 January 2020 17:58 (four years ago) link

otm

💠 (crüt), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

After firing all her staff last week @marwilliamson has begun writing her own fundraising emails...🔮😂 pic.twitter.com/9FoEkwDWVK

— Kyle Tharp (@kylewilsontharp) January 6, 2020

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

I don't think there are any actual intelligence analysts who believe this "culture of martyrdom" stuff. This is message-board level analysis from former Mayor Buttigieg... https://t.co/h5RUvDMoha pic.twitter.com/7Vyolqppaw

— Ryan Grim (@ryangrim) January 6, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:57 (four years ago) link

Damn, Ryan didn't have to slam us that hard

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

he's just mad because he got suggest banned

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:07 (four years ago) link

If Buttigieg posted an Osama thumbsup id vote for him

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

read it as "culture of mayordom"

525,600 gecs (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

other than his usual ability to say precisely nothing in so many words, what’s objectionable about that?

k3vin k., Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:18 (four years ago) link

Lol "strong words"

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:23 (four years ago) link

xp, there is a recurring cliche about Iranians that they prioritise the opportunity to be martyred over all else - which at a low level leads to lousy analysis of strategic motivations and, at worst, feeds into the fantasy that the Iranian government is looking to build nuclear weapons to bring about the apocalypse.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:27 (four years ago) link

should be noted that shia islamists use "martyrdom operations" less often than many other groups (secular leftist and arab nationalist parties in the lebanese civil war were more likely to employ the tactic than islamic jihad/hezbollah)

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

feeds into the fantasy that the Iranian government is looking to build nuclear weapons to bring about the apocalypse.

― ShariVari, Tuesday, January 7, 2020 2:27 PM (nine minutes ago)

presumably they are looking to build nuclear weapons so the US will think twice before droning them

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

fyi, there are quite a few americans - many millions - who interpret politics through the lens of "how will this bring about the apocalypse?"

But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:42 (four years ago) link

oh ffs

For the love of godpic.twitter.com/47dhlK6hLj

— Samuel D. Finkelstein II (@CANCEL_SAM) January 8, 2020

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 12:51 (four years ago) link

meanwhile, amy klobuchar is looking more and more presidential

Democratic candidate Amy Klobuchar falsely claimed last night that Iran is now, because of Trump, "announcing that they're going to start developing a nuclear weapon." Iran has made no such announcement, continues to say it isn't pursuing a nuclear weapon: https://t.co/BOAm2ogC1c

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) January 7, 2020

'Sly Cooper' Movie Breaking Into Theaters In 2016 (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link

not sure i understand what’s laughable about the double selfies thing

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:32 (four years ago) link

cool clip tho

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:32 (four years ago) link

someone posted the howard dean clip in the replies which is almost close to self-aware

american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link

Do people actually think she’s being serious when she says “never before seen in history”?

culture of mayordom (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link

the phrase "folds like a cheap umbrella" comes to mind

Under questioning from @MeghanMcCain, @ewarren — who called Soleimani's killing "an assassination” — now says “of course” he’s a terrorist pic.twitter.com/nS4OCRFdv8

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) January 7, 2020

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:38 (four years ago) link

does it? She withstood those idiotic questions rather well.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link

He can be many things, including a terrorist. I mean, you like Spielberg and the Smiths.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link


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