star wars 9 grim resignation thread

Monaghan then described a scene that he was a part of that didn't make the theatrical cut.

“Another thing that we will hopefully see at some point in the future," he said, "is that in the final battle, Connix [played by Billie Lourd] injures her leg. Obviously, myself, Rose and Connix are exiting the battle, and Rose has a weapon. While Rose is busy doing stuff, I grab Connix’s arm and put it over my shoulder to make sure that all of us come back as unscathed as possible.”

wow this sounds amazing

I really didn't get why Monaghan was in the film

What I want to see is the meal they enjoyed before the battle. In real time, if at all possible.

Monaghan, like several other actors, was in the film because he'd worked with Abrams before, full stop.

This film needed to be shorter, not longer. Or, the script needed to be simpler. But when there is no fucking point to any of it, it's hard to know what to leave out.

Billie Lourd was robbed tbh

As recently discovered in the Rise of Skywalker Visual Dictionary, Monaghan played historian Beaumont Kin, who was on track to become one the youngest professors at the Lerct Historical Institute before the First Order destroyed the Hosnian system.

phew, glad we cleared that up

did we even know that billie lourd's character's name was connix?

She's named in one or both of the prior movies

you can see Leia's lips not lining up with the dialogue when she says "Billie, get me a coffee" instead of "Connix, what's our status"

The Arhul Hextrophon School of Embedded Journalism was a school located on Lerct. Beaumont Kin attended the school, and met the Rebel Alliance historian Voren Na'al there.

I haven't seen Rise of Skywalker yet, but I'm assuming that the Arhul Hextrophon School of Embedded Journalism is an absolutely central setting.

yeah, babu frik is a columnist for the new yavin times who ends up reporting from the front lines of the battle with the final order

I bet Monaghan is telling everybody he had a major part that was cut by the evil studio to just his handful of scenes

bg constantly making me lol today

The film is largely focused on j-school prof Luke's attempts at securing tenure. Sorry 4 spoilers.

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I'm rewatched the prequels, mostly because all the post-mortem discourse about "Episode 3 being actually pretty good" made me realize that I had no memory of ever seeing it. (I don't think I actually ever did!)

It's pretty easy to target the awfulness of the "romance" elements, Jar Jar, and talk about how "an explanation for the mystical elements of this series are not what drew us to it in the first place", but as a plot schematic, I'm pretty begrudgingly surprised at how well Lucas was able to create a compelling character out of Palpatine.

Lucas has proposed (I think) that the series be viewed in order-- this would mean that Luke Skywalker's origins, and parentage, would be established before the reveal in 5, so, fuck that-- but I am attracted to the idea that viewing 1-3 might create in the viewer a not-knowing of Palpatine's intentions, and make his re-appearance in 5 (and re-emergence in 6) be that much more compelling, idk. I think there's a lot of good work done here even if, if, if, etc.

This whole fuckery ended better than Game Of Thrones, at the very least

Weird! I was gifted a year of Disney+ for xmas so, as you do, I spent the weekend watching eps 1-2 (for the second time ever in their entirety) and starting on The Clone Wars cartoon, and my impression is pretty much identical to your own. For all the garbage in the prequels that people justifiably denounce, the Palpatine plot and the machinations of the Clone Wars are actually pretty decent. And it kinda shines a light on (no spoilers) how comparatively half-assed certain plot developments are in the new one.

Jar Jar is absolutely cringeworthy, but his quiet moment is actually the pivot that brings Palpatine to power!

There's a very leading discussion in Ep. 2 about how using the clone army could turn the tide, but there's no way that a majority of the senate would vote in favor of using it. Cue Palpatine sadly ruminating that were Senator Amidala here, she could give a speech that would convince the senate to grant the chancellor war powers. Next scene? Jar Jar gives this speech, and Palpatine ends up with the ability to make unilateral decisions in the time of war.

It's unknown whether future historians would hang the entire mess on Senator Binks

I hate the character, and it makes me sound like a geek, but I am kinda interested in knowing what on earth happened to Jar-Jar after the fall of the republic, the jedi, and Anakin. What does this goofy idiot do after everything he cares about has collapsed?

be sorry

I guess when he is sorry he makes a hilarious sound with his mouth.

i assume he was liquidated in the conversion of the senate into the empire. emperor prob had anakin kill him

replace "senate" with "republic" lol

It's implied in a book that he's a street performer and broke

I literally can't tell if that's a joke or not :)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jar_Jar_Binks#Literature

I wish

^ maybe the least-enticing url i have ever seen on this board

I had the same reaction, really.

Relevant part:
Chuck Wendig's 2017 novel Star Wars: Aftermath: Empire's End, set after the events of Return of the Jedi, finds Binks as a street performer who entertains refugee children but is loathed by adults who blame him for his part in the rise of the Empire.

I feel like a worse human being for knowing and posting this

wow my idea is much better

Aw, that's grim. That's kinda not even darkly funny :(

mh your sacrifice was for the greater good

I was just reading something the other day where Ahmed Best said Lucas intended to have a scene (or scenes) where Jar Jar is shown to be more explicitly a puppet of Palpatine (like at least not quite the fuck-up he seems to be) but that they didn't wind up filming it.

It's really just an awful character in both conception and execution. I've been digging the Clone Wars cartoon but I got to a Jar Jar episode last night and I believe I said aloud 'fucking why'.

I was told that Jar Jar was at one point tipped to be an actual Sith, and I pictured him squeaking "you can do it, Ani!" at a certain grisly moment in Episode 3

I did like that he absolutely Empire'd everyone, nice little dovetail for a hated character. Was sad to read earlier that Ahmed Best was personally distraught about the character's reception

Dental plan

the Reddit thread about JJB being a covert Sith was both convincing in evidence (mouthing others’ dialogue as they say it, Jedi level acrobatics and fighting) and a good explanation of the Phantom Menace title. I do wish that had been the way Lucas went.

Rewatched the prequel trilogy again this past weekend. I feel as if it takes on an entirely different place, now... given that it's no longer "the last thing we're getting", it feels somewhat less-important, more effervescent, and thus more enjoyable. I said earlier in this thread that I definitely underrated Lucas's skill at creating a feasible narrative for Palpatine, his machinations and deceptions feel very well-rendered and convincing.

I have always kind of repped for Episode 1, given that podracing and Darth Maul provided some genuinely thrilling moments. Episode 3 on second-viewing is genuinely moving in places, even if Palpatine's "I'm the Sith Lord btw" reveal is clumsy. Overall, the dialogue of the trilogy, which is dreadful, kind of has its charm at this point, it seems no-less-offensive or annoying than any Marvel movie.

But the real Achilles heel, interestingly, is the action in the second half of Episode 2. People focus on the romance falling flat (and it does, sure) but the entire Geonosis sequence (factory, gladiator arena, droids vs. clones, chasing after Dooku, final showdown) is so wretchedly rendered and storyboarded, it's a painfully bad bit of visual storytelling.

I will say that, based on what I've seen so far, there's very little in Jar Jar's Clone Wars appearances that contradicts that theory.

the dialogue of the trilogy, which is dreadful, kind of has its charm at this point

this bowl of shit tastes delicious if you just keep eating it!

both the star wars 9 anticipation thread and the star wars 9 spoilers thread are now simultaneously about the prequels: justice

xpost Feel like you said exactly that like four days ago.

But then so have the rest of us at this point, so.

it's all a rich tapestry

for someone who hates the taste of shit, you sure hang around a lot with people eating it. like you want the smell but not the taste.

I mean

The romance shit just floats by unobtrusively. The "my young Padawan learner" doesn't ruffle me any more. What grates most, oddly enough, 20 years on, is all the Yoda inversions and 3P-isms

When Anakin is like "I hate sand" I felt like "well, these people ARE aliens, it would make sense that their methods of seduction seem alien to me"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmHvUX2iuJE

i know i posted the "padmé and anakin looking through windows" scene upthread but how good is the fucking music too

for someone who hates the taste of shit, you sure hang around a lot with people eating it. like you want the smell but not the taste.

hey I'm not the one putting this thread at the top of Site New Answers for over a month. It's more like the river of shit just carries me along and every now and then I feel it's my duty to remind people that the river is, in fact, made of shit.