by constantly repeating the fake news of climate change for so long, the greens have actually willed it into being. shame on them!
― NickB, Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link
Last I checked, that hashtag had been taken over by parodic responses.
― Vernon Locke, Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:27 (four years ago) link
Herald sun is full of it. Letters to the editor saying ‘greens dominated councils’ have banned land clearing, a two page article on the need for land clearing, for some variety a letter saying we should take lessons on youth offender management from Joe Arpaio.
Murdoch press full court press on how we should be raking, burning and chopping down the forests so they don’t do it again.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 4 January 2020 23:41 (four years ago) link
Good luck with this horrible shit. I cannot imagine it really.
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:06 (four years ago) link
I've been searching Australia, Oz, Sheepfuxxors etc for days looking for where people were discussing this situation and finally realised it was happening on this thread.
Anyway, here we are.
Fucking hell.
Are there any ILX friends at risk? I dunno what to say other than to say that I care about this a lot and I care about you all who are affected. And that I know there's really nothing I can say.
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link
I know there are Oz ILX people who aren't on this thread though, so are they talking on ILX elsewhere or using social media?
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 5 January 2020 00:29 (four years ago) link
California has at least a couple wildfire threads, the Aus situation is certainly worth its own thread.
― nickn, Sunday, 5 January 2020 03:39 (four years ago) link
Crazy stories from my sister in law. She said they were at the farm when they got the order to evacuate ... but the main road was closed, so they couldn't go anywhere. They had a place to hunker down, but she said they saw cars lined up and down the side the road, just sitting there, waiting for it to open. She and her family spent their time making sandwiches to hand out to people stranded. She said there was no power, no cell service, and it was really scary trying to track down her husband (my brother in law) who was back at the farm doing his own controlled brush burns to try to protect what hadn't burned yet. She said it was downright apocalyptic, driving through clouds of smoke, huge embers landing on the dash .
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 5 January 2020 04:08 (four years ago) link
cheers jed. there aren't really many regular Australian posters anymore, and most who are still here stick to a pet thread or two.
In more Liberal (tory) Party fundraising hypocrisy, the Minister For Fascism, who's given himself more spying powers than any governmental agency has ever held in Australia, and recently spent $100 million reopening one single concentration camp to hold one single family, is asking people to donate to the Red Cross, rather than coming up with any way for the government to contribute to relief funds or firefighters. As of the election last year, the IMF estimated government subsidies to fossil fuel companies to be $29 billion in Australia, or 2.3% of GDP.
The report found that if fossil fuels had been priced appropriately, global carbon emissions would be reduced by 28 per cent. Significantly, effective fossil pricing would also lead to a decrease in air pollution deaths by up to 46 per cent. The elimination of fossil fuel subsidies would also increase global government revenues by 3.8 per cent of GDP.
A recent report from the Climate Council estimated that up to $571 billion were predicted to be wiped off Australian property values as a result of the impacts of climate change.
Economists from the University of Newcastle have estimated that a green job guarantee program, set up to create over 600,000 jobs and virtually eliminate involuntary un- and under-employment, would cost around $28 billion.
Here are a couple of (I guess) 60-year-old-ish volunteer firefighters with measured words for the Prime Minister:
Here’s the full clip: “Stand down now. You don’t deserve to govern. You knew this was coming.”Firefighter who collapsed: “I’ve already lost seven houses in Nelligen. I’m not gonna lose anymore, dickhead.”via @FocusNewsNow #AustralianFires pic.twitter.com/vTFHjsIetG— Angus Duncan (@Angus_Duncan) January 4, 2020
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 05:09 (four years ago) link
I drove right through the southern highlands this spring. I’ve just been going through my photos from tumut through Adimanby to Cooma. This was on my insta from October.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3-2gdQgO_x/?igshid=l83ev061fxdb
It’s all burnt out now. It will grow back, but only at the speed trees grow. I remember riding through kinglake when I first got to Australia in 2013, four years after black Saturday. A lot had grown back but there where still a lot of blackened stumps and bare patches. This will take decades ti recover.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 5 January 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link
Is this the driest/hottest part of the year or may there, god forbid, be worse weather to come?
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
December through March is generally the hottest, and the most prone to fires in the southeast part of the continent.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link
Auckland at 3:45pm today. This is no filter and with colour correction off. Australia is 2000km away. pic.twitter.com/57C5etBkkA— kendra! join a communist party (@kendra_c__) January 5, 2020
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link
A grim account of the absence of governmental involvement, during the collapse of communication infrastructure, stopping doctors from being able to get to injured or affected people.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link
Good luck, Australia! The rest of us are next.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link
Visualization of areas fires have been detected by satellite imaging, not current fires. Credit Anthony Hearsey - Creative Imaginghttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENhF2oAXYAAZ7uJ?format=jpg
― The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link
detected over what time period?
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
5 December 2019 to 5 January 2020. Originally an instagram post
visualisation of the fires in Aus. This is made from data from NASA’s FIRMS (Satellite data regarding fires) between 05/12/19 - 05/01/20.These are all the areas which have been affected by bushfires. Scale is a little exaggerated due to the render’s glow. Also note that not all the areas are still burning.
― The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
Here would be NASA's interactive rendering over the past 7 days.
― The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Sunday, 5 January 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link
From that NASA map it looks like Cambodia is burning up, too.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 5 January 2020 19:53 (four years ago) link
Melbourne smells of woodsmoke this morning.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Sunday, 5 January 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
This Australian Magpie has been hearing fire engines so often it has started to mimic the soundWildlife adjusting to the disaster we created is heartbreakingThis is second only to the time I saw gorillas cover their ears when they heard gunfire pic.twitter.com/Sl7kw4dTFq— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) January 5, 2020
― The dead swans lay in the stagnant pool (Sanpaku), Sunday, 5 January 2020 20:44 (four years ago) link
Two new fires have just started in coal seams in the Blue Mountains', at Sydney's western edge, second largest town.
These fires are now travelling underground, as is typical for burning coal seams.
One in Centralia, Pennsylvania has been burning for 57 years. The entire town was condemned in 1992. Its population was 1,200 when the fire started; the population of Lithgow - not a mining town - is 22,000. https://1v1d1e1lmiki1lgcvx32p49h8fe-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/scott-morrison-coal-joyce-aap-960x540.jpg
"This is coal! Don't be afraid! Don't be scared!
"It's coal, it was dug up by men and women who work and live in the electorates of those who sit opposite.
"There is no word for coal-phobia technically, Mr Speaker, but it is that malady that affects those opposite [the Labor party], and it is that malady that is affecting the towns and jobs and, indeed, this country, because of their pathological, ideological opposition to coal being an important part of our sustainable and more certain energy future."
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 23:31 (four years ago) link
not a mining town
(that is, Centralia was still a mining town; Lithgow grew as a railway location for coal and iron ore in the 19th century - hence the seams - and there is still a power station in the region, but mining hasn't been its core business for a century or so.)
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Sunday, 5 January 2020 23:47 (four years ago) link
the "get fucked, from Nelligan" guy is awesome.
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 6 January 2020 00:14 (four years ago) link
Office buildings are being evacuated in Sydney because the fire alarms won't stop going off. the Prime Minister says it's "not the time" to discuss whether climate change is involved, is approving more coal mines, refuses to meet with firefighters or allot emergency services any emergency funding, but is pushing one piece of legislation today: to make it legal again to refuse employment or services to gay and trans people― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:12 AM
― insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, December 10, 2019 9:12 AM
This is the highway leading out of Canberra, the capital of Australia, to the south coast.Don't worry, the politicians all went home for a few months earlier this month, after postponing the bill that allows you to verbally attack gay, trans, and brown people in the street, or deny them medical attention, or refuse to serve them in shops, or exclude them from jobs.― insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:04 AM
Don't worry, the politicians all went home for a few months earlier this month, after postponing the bill that allows you to verbally attack gay, trans, and brown people in the street, or deny them medical attention, or refuse to serve them in shops, or exclude them from jobs.
― insecurity bear (sic), Sunday, December 22, 2019 10:04 AM
(It also took Morrison hours to react when he found out that some of the bathrooms in Parliament House were allowed to be used by any gender, versus four months for bushfires spreading down the side of the continent.)
The footballer then sued the rugby organisation for $14 million dollars.
By the time the legislation was tabled, he was publicly saying that bushfires are God's punishment for gay marriage having been legalised earlier in the year.
The week of that top quoted post, he had received an "extremely pleas[ing]" settlement that left him "vindicated."
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 6 January 2020 07:31 (four years ago) link
So do the Tory fuckers just like being on fire, at this point, in their heart of hearts
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 6 January 2020 07:36 (four years ago) link
They aren't on fire you silly-billy, silby. It's poor people, who don't even OWN coal mines.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 6 January 2020 08:03 (four years ago) link
This radio talk bloke has been fired and suspended several times for groping and abusing female colleagues, and waving his dick around at a Christmas party, until they got tired of reprimanding him and let him carry on as long as his subordinates resign quietly instead of pressing complaints. He does NOT approve of Shakespearean words though!!!
Anyone who tells a PM to P off and F off for NO reason is feral. https://t.co/aCYArrwnB5— Chris Smith (@chrissmithonair) January 4, 2020
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Monday, 6 January 2020 08:15 (four years ago) link
If he ever started acting like a PM I’m might be inclined to stop telling him to fuck off.
As it is I’m going to tell him to fuck off a lot, especially on Friday outside the star library.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 6 January 2020 08:46 (four years ago) link
A shocking video of dead animals strewn across a roadside in New South Wales killed in the #AustralianBushfire . At least 480 million mammals, birds and reptiles are likely to have died in the state alone since September. Devastating. Credit: The 'new' Batlow Hotel pic.twitter.com/BaGFsMvfm6— Patrick Greenfield (@pgreenfielduk) January 5, 2020
― Good taste, bit Victorian but who isn't? (jed_), Monday, 6 January 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link
apocalyptic ― hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 08:19 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglinki may have understated this― hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:09 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
― hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 08:19 (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink
i may have understated this
― hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 2 January 2020 21:09 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
i may have understated my understatement
― hot nuts (small) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 6 January 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link
Apocalypse Next Week And The Week After That, lol we're all gonna die
― it's after the end of the world (Matt #2), Monday, 6 January 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
The managed apocalypse is moving on a bit faster now
― calzino, Monday, 6 January 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link
cool to see my posts are now so normalised that it takes a fellow Brit posting the same info to break through the apocalypto-recognition-meter :)
Reminder that (the firefighters) are still volunteers, without breathing masks, taking unpaid time off workExcept for the ones that are unemployed: they have had their benefits cut off because they have not been actively seeking work. (The dole has not been raised in 25 years, incidentally. Housing prices have roughly quadrupled in Sydney in that time.)Good news for the ones with jobs: it's been announced that they will receive (unspecified) compensation for up to twenty days off work, after the fires are over. Four months of fires so far, with another three or four to come, is less than twenty days, right?
Except for the ones that are unemployed: they have had their benefits cut off because they have not been actively seeking work. (The dole has not been raised in 25 years, incidentally. Housing prices have roughly quadrupled in Sydney in that time.)
Good news for the ones with jobs: it's been announced that they will receive (unspecified) compensation for up to twenty days off work, after the fires are over. Four months of fires so far, with another three or four to come, is less than twenty days, right?
It's now been specified, and expanded: both unemployed and employed-but-fighting-fires-instead firefighters can apply for 13 weeks of Disaster Recovery Allowance.
The Disaster Recovery Allowance is the same amount as the dole, which has not been raised in 25 years.
It will also be taxed as income. A few years ago, the LNP government instituted a "robo-debt" administration system, where a broken algorithm will conclude that people on benefits were overpaid (usually if they were working but underemployed) and seize their bank accounts. Many people, especially chronically ill, have killed themselves after being robo-debt-ed, you might be surprised to hear! Firefighters will thus be eligible for $220 a week, in a few months, but about a hundred of it might be taxed, and if they return to work after the fires -- if the fires end -- then a known-to-be-faulty computer system might take the rest of their money too.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link
don't worry though, Scotty's got some good support behind him
Thanks for the call @realDonaldTrump and for your strong messages of sympathy, support and friendship for Australia during our terrible bushfire season. Thanks also to the American people for their many messages of support. Australia and the US are great mates. 🇺🇸 🇦🇺— Scott Morrison (@ScottMorrisonMP) January 7, 2020
hope we can get the fires put out in time to send thousands of Australians to murder ppl in the middle east because a POTUS asks again
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link
publicly saying that bushfires are God's punishment for gay marriage having been legalised earlier in the year.
Has he ever stopped and considered that maybe this is God's punishment for electing ScoMo?
― A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 05:07 (four years ago) link
The next week, he prepared charts proving that climate change is a "lie" and a "fraud," in order to wave them on a live televised weekly political panel discussion show. Due to "concern about the government's climate change position, [with MPs privately] arguing it was a weakness in the election campaign despite Mr Morrison's surprise win," Morrison barred him from appearing on broadcast TV*.
oh hey here he is on Good Morning Britain this morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFvTrdOqdXo
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 08:45 (four years ago) link
note that while Morrison is now saying on TV that of course his goverment, long before he was the head of it, has always believed in the link between climate change and man-made blah blah blah
- Morrison personally intervened* to keep Kelly preselected for his seat - Morrison personally nominated Kelly to appear on BBC Radio 4 to represent the government on Sunday, which is presumably where GNB picked up on him, if he wasn't personally recommended again - Kelly was Chair of the LNP's Environment & Energy Committee, 2016-2019 - Kelly invited goons from the IPA to present to the government ahead of the Paris agreement - Kelly set up a formal group for coal exporters to lobby parliament
Whatever lip service Scotty or LNP reps say now that they've finally realised the general populace have caught on, Craig Kelly still actively represents their position and intentions.
Kelly followed the above TV appearance by referring to Laura Tobin as an "ignorant Pommy weather girl."
Here are some of his greatest hits that made Morrison, weeks after becoming PM through a coup in 2018, leap to keep him in the government:https://www.crikey.com.au/2018/10/25/why-did-scott-morrison-save-craig-kelly-from-preselection-defeat/
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link
https://chaser.com.au/general-news/no-one-could-have-predicted-this-says-government-that-was-warned-about-this-in-1988-1993-1998-2001-2004-2009-2010-2011-2012-2013-2014-2015-2016-2017-2018-and-2019/
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link
https://www.themonthly.com.au/sites/default/files/styles/blog_image/public/Scott_Morrison_07012020.jpg
absolutely demented posed photo from Scotty, atop this summary of the goverment's inaction over the last month or two
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 12:04 (four years ago) link
It looks like he has been impaled in his crotch by that table.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 13:09 (four years ago) link
"Research from QUT shows that 'some kind of a disinformation campaign' is pushing the Twitter hashtag #ArsonEmergency. There is no arson emergency"
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:53 (four years ago) link
Trump is piling in to help spread it.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link
Australia and the US are great mates, I hear.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link
A few decades ago, teenager Shane Fitzsimmons saw his father die in a fire hazard reduction exercise gone wrong in Sydney's Ku-Ring-Gai Chase National Park.
Today, he's having to go on TV to refute the government's lies about fire hazard reduction, and attempt to scapegoat a party that has spent decades trying to save citizen's lives but has never held the balance of power in any legislative jurisdiction.
NSW RFS Commissioner Shane Fitzsimmons has dismissed Barnaby Joyce's claim that 'green caveats' stopped hazard reduction burns, leading to the bushfire crisis #AustraliaisBurning #AustralianBushfiresDisaster pic.twitter.com/4omWS0mcuE— SBS News (@SBSNews) January 7, 2020
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 04:45 (four years ago) link
^ refute the government’s attempts to scapegoat etc etc (the other day, Morrison’s office wasn’t actively calling journalists off-the-record to demand they report that the state governments have fucked up in every area of fire safety, nothing to do with the federal government at all)
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 05:46 (four years ago) link
wasn’t? was. fucken autocorrect
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link
Scott Morrison took a holiday in Fiji a few months ago, requiring taxpayers to fund AFP bodyguards for himself and his family, and in Hawaii as fires spread across the country, again requiring tax-payer funded bodyguards.
The Emergency Services Minister for NSW took a holiday in France while a state of declared emergency existed in NSW.
The federal Defense Minister admitted (after avoiding the question twice) two days ago to taking a holiday in Bali over Christmas, while firefighters were pleading for defense forces to be called in to help them.
Here's Scott Morrison this morning, with the mayor of Kangaroo Island, urging foreign tourists that "Australia is still open" and that while 1/3 of Kangaroo Island "has obviously been decimated*, two-thirds is open for business."
@ScottMorrisonMP encourages people domestically and internationally to holiday in Australia. #AustralianFires #auspol pic.twitter.com/ukLRIvLl4N— David Marler (@Qldaah) January 8, 2020
Please hold on to your seats before reading that in the hours after this, the South Australian Country Fire Services have identified a dozen or so new fires and issued multiple further evacuation orders.
Also, please don't die of shock that the organisation he joyously praises Belgian tourists for helping out are homophobic, terf, and widely reported as refusing assistance to black folk during the fire crisis.
* this numerically illiterate man, as well as being twice fired for hundreds of millions of dollars in fraud, was recently the Treasurer of the country.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 07:44 (four years ago) link
Here's a photo from a water bomber on Kangaroo Island a week ago, when the fires were just getting started:
https://i.imgur.com/S6AuSt0.jpg
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 07:58 (four years ago) link