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I used to listen to Heaven's End on cassette tape in my car, and it sounded good, but it does sound horrible on mp3. As much as re-masters of classics scare me, I think it would be worth hearing a good remaster of Heaven's End. The stretch of the album starting with the title track, going into Too Real to Feel and the great transition into Fix to Fall is pure bliss.

I'm trying to find Wolf Flow on s!sk, but having no luck.

recovering optimist (Royal Bed Bouncer), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link

I liked Fade Out when it first came out, though I thought Loop was secondary to the other Brit psych stuff happening at the time like Spacemen 3 or Skullflower.

What killed my interest was seeing them live around '90 - '91 at Maxwell's in Hoboken. They were just so serious, droning on and on - and this from a Swans/Godflesh fan! What summed it up for me was when they blew the power three times in a row and started the same song over again each time it was interrupted, like a pack of dullard robots. They even managed to make strobe lights boring.

Although I must say this thread has peaked my interest in hearing Wolf Flow / A Gilded Eternity....

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:40 (eighteen years ago) link

fade out and a gilded eternity are ripe for remastering/releasing. those things have been OOP for so long.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 18:42 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
A Guilded Eternity is a masterpiece of music. I say Music, not pop or glam stuff.
They reached their top. More repetitive, more loud, distant as ever.
English is not my motherlanguage, so I don't care about words in songs. The only words i understood was "...So sorry..." in Be Here Now. It's enough. Loop is not a heavy-metal band, but something like Loud Ambient. Guitars sounding like helicos. Loop pursued me through years. I like Loop

xavier dechamps, Friday, 4 November 2005 17:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I say Music, not pop or glam stuff.

You don't need the latter part of that statement.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 4 November 2005 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link

But if you added "I say" to the former part of the statement two more times, you'd be Foghorn Leghorn, and that would rock.

martin m. (mushrush), Friday, 4 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
finally found gilded eternity in the used bin in bmore over the weekend; what a fuckin monster of an album. "breathe into me" is my fave use of the "tv eye" riff in a song that's not actually "tv eye" evar. album's 10x more singlemindedly pounding and GOOD than anything released in the UK in 1990 has any right to be.

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Weirdly, Simon R. trashed A Gilded Eternity at the time in comparison to Playing With Fire.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:25 (eighteen years ago) link

that's odd...I can remember Reynolds getting all "I was lost, I was a void" when he would describe Loop...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh he loved Loop, but he thought Gilded wasn't a good step forward from where they were before.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:30 (eighteen years ago) link

I suppose he had a point...other than "Arc-Lite", I can't remember another track from that LP...(though I thought "Arc-Lite", ace as it was in both its SONAR and THAT OTHER NAME versions, paled in comparison to "Sunburst", its B-side)...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

WAIT ZR YOU JUST GOT THAT? WHAT LOOP U HAVE BEFORE?

pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:48 (eighteen years ago) link

heaven's end, which ain't nowhere near as good

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:58 (eighteen years ago) link

and i mean i'd heard ge before - i listened to it all the time at MUC, but finally pwning my own copy is very much appreciated

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Man, I sold my CD of Wolf Flow in a fit of poverty about 10 years ago and my cassette of Gilded Eternity and Heaven's End disintegrated. Who knows when (if ever) this stuff will get reissued. Pathetic.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Heaven's End >>> A Gilded Eternity. Fade Out is probably better than both (maybe not the former though, I should listen again) and the singles collection thing I have is better than all of them, methinks.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:41 (eighteen years ago) link

mebbe it's just cuz i have he on shittily-mastered cd, but it sounds like a bunch of formless, albeit loud, sub-shoegaze psychedelic noise compared to the brutalist pounding of ge. i mean, i like it and all, but ge kicks teh ass in comparison. never heard fade out or wolf flow, but i'm interested.

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

If you have not heard Wolf Flow, as I say time and again, trust me. I'm prepared to call it the definite album now.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:47 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah everyone seems to love that one, i really need to find it for less than seven million dollars and buy it! less than $40 would be preferable, tho.

ZR (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:50 (eighteen years ago) link

I think Ned's right about Wolf Flow.

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:53 (eighteen years ago) link

It's handy because it covers the entire career and most of the best songs, plus great sound and brilliant performances. (That said Sterling's homemade comp just pips it as a best-of.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:55 (eighteen years ago) link

I like Fade Out the least. Guy's voice annoys me on that album.

josh in sf (stfu kthx), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

There's no other band I love as much as LOOP.
All their records are in my top ten list.

skeggia, Wednesday, 26 April 2006 08:17 (eighteen years ago) link

A Gilded Eternity is £4.99 on Amazon (UK).

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 09:29 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
RE: HASTCo - I have the first record (Jo In Nine-G Hell: pretty dreadful w/ lame songwriting, tries to sound menacing, but just sounds ridiculous in a vaguely gothy way), and the third one (Psychedelische Musique: much better, more abstract, interesting abrasive textures, some of it reminds me a bit of krauty Chrome).

As said way upthread. For myself, I finally got said third one the other week -- quite good, actually at points comparable to where Main were at mid-nineties, ironically enough. But not entirely, and with their own particular approach. Now I need to investigate these other side projects from HaSTCo that are mentioned elsewhere...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 14:38 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Exciting d0wnl4sd opportunity:

http://differentwaters.blogspot.com/

Scroll down a bit and get stuck in.

Incidentally, how does one use winrar (or whatever it's called) without it fucking up one's winzip? I mean, this some crazy shit.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I've recently been reinvestigating their back catalogue.

God, I love Loop.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Incidentally, how does one use winrar (or whatever it's called) without it fucking up one's winzip?

huh?

GOD PUNCH TO HAWKWIND (yournullfame), Thursday, 13 July 2006 09:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It seems to override all winzip functions, files, etc.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:26 (seventeen years ago) link

during install there should be an 'associate winrar with these filetypes' checkbox. uncheck that checkbox. oh, too late.

in winzip there may be a 're-associate winzip with these file types', check that box. ('options menu - configuration - system tab' on mine).

so, where to start with loop? (i have wolf flow)

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:32 (seventeen years ago) link

Koogsy, I think you'd like their earlier stuff better - Heaven's End or World In Your Eyes.

I mean, normally I'd say Fade Out should be the starting point, but knowing your tastes, I think you'd like the... prettier, more psychedelic stuff at the beginning.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:34 (seventeen years ago) link

I used to have Heaven's End, Koogs. That's good. You may find yourself swinging your hair around in a psychedelic manner - don't frighten the coot chicks!

Your winrar explanation makes sense.

This happened some time ago, it's not now. I just wonder whether I dare try winrar again.

I think I should give it a go.

I have one of those little memory sticks so that I can download things at work to supplement my meagre income.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:38 (seventeen years ago) link

> I think you'd like the... prettier, more psychedelic stuff at the beginning.

the wimpier stuff you mean? why i oughta...

koogy wonderland (koogs), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:40 (seventeen years ago) link

No, trust me, Loop were never wimpy. They just seem more like Pale Saints, JAMC and other stuff you like in the earlier days.

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 10:44 (seventeen years ago) link

thank you, random mp3 blog!

so hongro, so angry (haitch), Thursday, 13 July 2006 11:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Actually, Koogs, I think the first album has some crossover with the Peel Sessions. But I could be wrong. You never know.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:53 (seventeen years ago) link

No, trust me, Loop were never wimpy. ....
-- Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (masonicboo...) (webmail), Today 11:44 AM. (later) (link)

Hmm, the one time I saw them live, they were all "oh no, I've got a really bad cold, ok?" like Neil from the Young ones.

mark grout (mark grout), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:57 (seventeen years ago) link

aw man, wolf flow...shit is tight. "afterglow" is like my favorite song of the last three months.

FAN DEATH (teenagequiet), Thursday, 13 July 2006 12:59 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes, they were a bit like Neil.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:33 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, apparently Robert was a miserable sod, but their MUSIC was never wimpy, alright?

Thom Yorke Is My Spirit Guide (kate), Thursday, 13 July 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Don't know what this site is but saw it when i googled loop and registered just to ask a couple of questions and seems like people use the answer board as a chat of sorts so i ask. i recently bought a gilded after someone recommended to me and was a little put off by the complete inaudibility(?) of the vocals-i have to strain my ears just to barely hear them. Is this how the vocals are or is it my stereo? And based on the other entries and i didn't read all of them so my Q's could already have been answered, it seems like some of the people here can find loop CDS pretty easy.maybe cause you guys are from uk but in my town in california, about 30 miles or so from san francisco, i have gone to various record stores for the past year or so hoping to find a loop cd, among other 'shoegazer' bands in the bins, there never was one. Not until i went on a family trip to monterey did i find a used copy of AGE (to my delight and later displeasure) in some out of the way shop. So some advice on tracking them down would be nice and my last q is was Heaven's end released in the uk only and is availble only as an import in the us? an answer would be nice. and i think h&stc's first album is great-enjoyed it more than AGE which if i said in person to some fellows on hear i would probably be killed but oh well.

Johnny Boy (lovelyludwig), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Not until i went on a family trip to monterey did i find a used copy of AGE (to my delight and later displeasure) in some out of the way shop.

Good grief, what was this store? My family lives in Carmel and who knows what else might be tucked away there.

As for inaudible vocals, well, that's kinda the way Robert sung then!

Anyway, welcome, but a tip -- don't say "I didn't read the rest of the thread responses" or anything like that. Actually *read* them first. We're here to help. ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 July 2006 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

four months pass...
From http://roberthampson.com/news/index.html

"31.10.06. Loop reissues
I'd like to announce, after much pleading, badgering, coercement etc. from many (THANK YOU!), that I am finally putting the wheels into motion on a LOOP Reissue programme. No formal plans have been made as yet, it is very, very, very early days and it may take some time, but the intent is there after all this time. Seeing that 2007 will mark the 20th Anniversary of the release of HEAVEN'S END, I feel I have no excuses left to leave the material out of print. Hopefully, a full and extensive remastering process will be involved, but that's all I can say right at this moment. I will certainly keep you all up to date with further postings... "

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, nice. Just so long as we get tons of rarities or something...

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd be happy if they were only remastered...my Loop CD's all sound sludgy...(and not intentionally so)...

hank (hank s), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:29 (seventeen years ago) link

kool thing!

come on baby let's go downtown (teenagequiet), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Great news!

righteousmaelstrom (righteousmaelstrom), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:14 (seventeen years ago) link

Thank god I've still never found a cheap copy of Fade Out.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 15:50 (seventeen years ago) link

not to mention the out-of-nowhere production job for Amp on Stenorette.

omg, got this album in the post today and am currently listening to it! to quote nathan barley, coincimental!

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:11 (seventeen years ago) link

great news; I slept on getting fade out for years and years and then when I finally went to buy it it was OOP and out of my price range.

kyle (akmonday), Tuesday, 21 November 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link


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