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i've always been fascinated by how incredibly short the verses in "walk away renee" are. they're so short they almost don't qualify as verses. they're more like pre-choruses or little mini-bridges. the fact that the first word of the song is "and" just heightens the effect -- that you missed the beginning and you're tuning in somewhere in the middle of the song. only later do you discover that there was, in fact, no beginning.
to my ears, the structure of this song is: pre-chorus/chorus/pre-chorus/chorus/etc.

it's kind of brilliant.

This comment made me want to listen and count. The verses are 8 bars long, which seems relatively normal (and is the same as e.g. "About a Girl" by Nirvana). But there is a sense of everything being there to set up the chorus. So maybe it's something in the way the melody and changes lead to the chorus that gives this impression?

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 22:26 (seventeen years ago) link

(I mean, lots of songs do have pre-choruses or 16-bar verses but 8 bars at a medium tempo surely isn't incredibly short. Not bringing this up to be pedantic. I am genuinely interested in what it is about the tune that makes the verses feel like short mini-bridges. Is it maybe also that there aren't that many words but they're held for a long time?)

Sundar (sundar), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

I've played There's Gonna Be A Storm about once a week on average for the past two years.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 22:32 (seventeen years ago) link

There's a lot on There's Gonna Be a Storm I really don't like. Once I get past "I've Got Something on My Mind," I really only bother with "Desiree," "And Suddenly," "Goodbye Holly," and "Myrah." Having said that, since I don't think it's right for anything to be out of print, ever, in a digital age, I'll be happy to burn a couple copies if someone on this thread's in need.

And I'll also add, since this has become a more generalized Left Banke thread, that Susanna Hoffs and Matthew Sweet did a GREAT job with their cover of "She May Call You Up Tonight." If anything, even more convincing than the original, and I love that it works with either gender.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:01 (seventeen years ago) link

even more convincing than the original

No, no, no.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:04 (seventeen years ago) link

If paying exorbitant prices for it on GEMM or Amazon doesn't suit you, you can download There's Gonna Be a Storm for $8.99 on Rhapsody. Strangely, it isn't on iTunes.

Jeff Reguil0n (Talent Explosion), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 00:47 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, susannah hoffs has some fine legs, man, but that version isn't a patch on the orig. left banke version. (the non-CD "I can see for miles" that sweet/hoffs did was just great, though.)

that comp isn't worth $60. as joseph mccombs says, it does kinda trail off a bit toward the end. but shit, I quite like it all except maybe "myrah" and a couple-three others. "give the man a hand" is good.

as for the foreshortened "walk away." well, how long is the track itself? 2:42.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 01:04 (seventeen years ago) link

I wish I could hear that Hoofs / Sweet LP! I will have to get it for xmas.

the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:58 (seventeen years ago) link

I mean HOFFS.

the pinefox (the pinefox), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah, her hoofs are cute, too. I mean I saw her and M. Sweet (looking like Lowell George!) on TV doing a song from that record, and she was about the best-lookin' thing I've ever seen. And the record is quite good, anybody who covers "I See the Rain" by the Marmalade is all reet in my book.

xp

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 15:22 (seventeen years ago) link

(I mean, lots of songs do have pre-choruses or 16-bar verses but 8 bars at a medium tempo surely isn't incredibly short. Not bringing this up to be pedantic. I am genuinely interested in what it is about the tune that makes the verses feel like short mini-bridges. Is it maybe also that there aren't that many words but they're held for a long time?)
-- Sundar (south.side.of.the.spamblockin'.sky.200...), November 14th, 2006. (sundar)

The verses may not be wildly short but they're not long either. The chorus is a little long, with a defined ending. Perhaps most importantly, there's never a double verse.

Rick Massimo (Rick Massimo), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:43 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, no double verse, exactly. Two bar intro, then the eight-bar verse then the chorus.

The Redd 47 Ronin (Ken L), Wednesday, 15 November 2006 19:59 (seventeen years ago) link

among the suberb left banke songs already listed is dark is the bark. spooky and a definite standout from the second half of their output.

i go back and forth on preferring the left banke and montage renditions of desiree - right now i'd pick montage, for the focus and propulsion. it's an incredible song. the instrumental version that montage did is also wonderful - it's piano, bass, drums, and sitar, leaving only the verse melody intact. the chorus is just piano emphasizing the original bass line, which makes the entire song.

the montage album is really great - the song grand pianist rivals the best of the left banke, for me, and tinsel and ivy, i shall call her mary, and the piano-and-wah-wah heavy instrumental thor and or are all solid.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 16 November 2006 08:41 (seventeen years ago) link

oh, and walk away renee is great. i like the orpheus version too.

derrick (derrick), Thursday, 16 November 2006 08:42 (seventeen years ago) link

this song, she's-a real pretty

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 16 November 2006 16:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Left Banke "There's Gonna Be A Storm"

Ben Dover (jonbenetsbody), Friday, 17 November 2006 12:36 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seuwhZvXa6Y

The Dusty Baker Selection (Charles McCain), Friday, 17 November 2006 16:21 (seventeen years ago) link

For those who have heard it, what do you think of Linda Ronstadt and Ann Savoy's remake of "Walk Away Renee"? It's on their new album, "Adieu False Heart."

Daniel, Esq., Saturday, 18 November 2006 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

I reviewed "Adieu" for No Depression. Nice version, didn't bring a lot new to it. The record as a whole was a bit slow for my taste, but mighty sweet, they sing well. The great La. guitarist Sam Broussard, an acquaintance of mine and a fine man, plays on it.

edd s hurt (ddduncan), Saturday, 18 November 2006 15:16 (seventeen years ago) link

this thread is the worst part of ilx. loading a random thread with music i've never heard of, finding a link (youtube) to listen to it, falling in love, going back and re-reading whole thread, finding out the music is out of print and pretty much impossible to get by legal means. sigh.

like murderinging (modestmickey), Saturday, 18 November 2006 16:30 (seventeen years ago) link

http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?field=ARTIST+OR+TITLE&wild=left+banke&Go%21.x=0&Go%21.y=0&Go%21=Search

you can get Pretty Ballerina on a 45 for 3 bucks.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 18 November 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

(I wasn't saying the verses were long or anything, just that they're not actually "incredibly short" (fcc's words). They're on the short side of normal but they do feel shorter. I think it might be that the melodic phrases in the verses are long - 4 bars each, so there are just two of them.)

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

(The phrases in the verses of "About a Girl" - also a 2-bar intro, then 8-bar verses w/ no double verses - are 2 bars each, so he can get through 4 lines in a verse instead of 2.)

Sundar (sundar), Saturday, 18 November 2006 19:44 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

The butler opened the parlor door
I took my coat and approached the floor
A door opened at the top of the stairs
A sexy lady she was a-standing there
I stumbled and turned around to see
Her Evening Gown
Said yeah, Alright!

She said Forward your love was there
The light was on the jewels in her hair
The only sign gettin' down on my chest
I start to mumble on the way to address
I made the way up and down upon
Her Evening Gown
Said yeah, Alright!

(solo)
Oh...
Mmm-hmm, alright...

The door was on the touch of her feet
Her eyes were wide and her hands petite
I knew I didn't stand a breath of a chance
With all her will she gave me a glance
She won't throw me out, I turned around to meet
Her Evening Gown
Said Yeah, Wowwwwwww!

The butler opened the parlor door
I took my coat and approached the floor
A door opened at the top of the stairs
A sexy lady she was a-standing there
I stumbled in and turned around to see
Her Evening Gown

http://www.lyrics007.com/Left%20Banke%20Lyrics/Evening%20Gown%20Lyrics.html
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I don't get it.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:54 (fifteen years ago) link

walk away renee is one of my fave songs ever

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:55 (fifteen years ago) link

yes, it's terrific, but lauren was right, way upthread, to put the extraordinary 'pretty ballerina' alongside it - in fact I think the latter wins, and is the greatest LB song I've heard.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Well we'll agree to differ there then. Interestingly, The Stories wrote one really great song ("Love Is In Motion") and didn't come close to writing another one as good - well, not as near to doing so as the Left Banke did in following their 'great song'.

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:02 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Picked up the first lp (on vinyl natch) over the weekend. Even the lesser stuff on it is charming. It's a real crime that this and the other Left Banke material is so hard to get. I wonder why, when it seems like everyone and their dog is redoing 60s music, there hasn't been new reissue or at least an audiophile pressing of the debut. Rights holders: get yer ass in gear!

BTW, did that Michael Brown/Steve Martin reunion stuff that harveyw posted about upthread ever come out?

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty Ballerina and Walk Away Renee are near-perfect pop songs. Is the rest of this group's output worth investigating?

Daniel, Esq., Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:19 (fourteen years ago) link

Those are the peaks, but there is much to love on the first album. Haven't heard the stray singles or the second album.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:28 (fourteen years ago) link

There's Gonna Be A Storm cd has practically everything and there is a lot to love imo.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

"She May Call You Up Tonight" f'rinstance.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:33 (fourteen years ago) link

Actually, thanks to youtube, here's a couple of the strays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeYzV74Il-8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpB3LXxyXlw&feature=related

Man, "Desiree" is awesome.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:36 (fourteen years ago) link

totally

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 02:37 (fourteen years ago) link

<3 tweethan threads :)

velko, Wednesday, 28 October 2009 03:03 (fourteen years ago) link

three months pass...

Oh my goodness... "there's Gonna Be a Storm" is possibly one of the GREATEST compilations ever. A least at this moment. On headphones. God, I love this band...

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 February 2010 09:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Nah. Guggit. It is one of the GREATEST compilations ever without a doubt. Godhead.

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 February 2010 09:42 (fourteen years ago) link

Er..."Fuggit".

François de Roobabe (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 12 February 2010 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Anybody heard this import? It's both albums in correct track order plus the stray tracks and a song not on There's Gonna Be A Storm. Never heard of the label but the reviews are uniformly positive and the it's a good deal cheaper on cd than Storm.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 12 February 2010 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link

um
i will probably be banned

but I'm not sure I get the love for this song

the singing sounds kind of strained & off key or something

lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i'll listen some more tho

lukevalentine, Saturday, 13 February 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

the slight straining in the vocals helps convey the tune. Please listen some more

curmudgeon, Sunday, 14 February 2010 21:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Found that import I linked to a few posts up on Ebay for a lower price and got it in the mail today. Surprise surprise it's a bootleg with no liner notes or credits outside of the bare minimum. Sounds ok, no needledrops--I assume it was ripped from There's Gonna Be A Storm. Some of the stuff from the second lp sounds kinda muffled and some of the first album stuff is in mono instead of stereo with no explanation why.

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 February 2010 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

one month passes...

Is it just me, or does "Pedestal" have serious early 70s Bowie thing goin' on? The ache in the vocals, wounded romanticism in the lyrics, Ronson-esque axe heroics...

Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 26 March 2010 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

this fuckin' song guys

Freddy 'The Wonder Chicken' (Gukbe), Monday, 29 March 2010 00:22 (fourteen years ago) link

nine months pass...

Sundazed just revealed on Facebook today that they're doing a reissue of at least the first lp.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 18 January 2011 23:13 (thirteen years ago) link

UPDATE: First AND Second lps, on hd vinyl & cd, possibly in May, no bonus tracks.

Your cousin, Marvin Cobain (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 19 January 2011 01:36 (thirteen years ago) link

http://www.wpclipart.com/small_icons/misc_7/.cache/thumbs_up.png

yuoowemeone, Wednesday, 19 January 2011 01:47 (thirteen years ago) link

And they're doing a reunion:

http://www.rockedition.com/news/the-left-banke-to-reunite/

Alba, Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:38 (thirteen years ago) link

:)

Me and a Monkey on the Moog (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 February 2011 22:46 (thirteen years ago) link


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