Magazine - Classic Or Dud?

great performance clip on youtube of "song from under the floorboards" w/a seriously funky black bass player

today I bumped into you again
I have no idea what you want
but there was something I meant to say

As the day stops dead
at the place where we're lost
I will drug you and fuck you
on the permafrost

classic, absolutely

today I bumped into you again
I have no idea what you want
but there was something I meant to say

As the day stops dead
at the place where we're lost
I will drug you and fuck you
on the permafrost

Words to live by.

Totally forgot the line about drugging and fucking until I played that song on my radio show this past week. Hi there, FCC!

Great, but better than Wire? wtf no.

mick mercer linked to this band today: Gloria Mundi

Gloria Mundi - Myspace
http://www.myspace.com/gloriamundifansite

They released an album on RCA in 1977 ! and sounded a bit like Magazine. Were Magazine inspired by this band? did they ever tour together?

Eddie Maelov - vocals // Sunshine Patteson - keyboards, vocals// Beethoven - guitar// c.c. - sax// Mike Nichols - drums// Ice - bass//

Don't think there was a Gloria Mundi connection. I did buy a couple of their singles when they came out, but I thought of them more like Ultravox at the time, but slight more trad-rock band. Of course trad-rock was what Magazine (and Joy Division, Echo, U2 etc) added back into new wave.

I'm not sure GM even preceeded Magazine, at least in my attention. There were a couple of bands like that, punilux, Ricki and the last days, erm, and others....

Of the two UK tours I remember magazine doing one had Simple Minds supporting and the next had Bauhaus.

I only saw them once, at the Astoria in Edinburgh with Bauhaus (and local band Josef K). This would have been April 1980, I also remember it was actually my mate's 20th Birthday and he, years later, became mildly famous and once mentioned that gig as one of his all time favourites.

Incidentally, I just got tickets to go see Barry Adamson play in Glasgow, and so that's... gulp, 28 years since I last saw him.... wonder if he still looks as cool? I know I do (grin).

I like Eddie and Sunshine's later pop record on Survival. Somewhere in Europe is a gem of a song.

One of the members of the Monochrome Set, Jeremy Harrington, was also in Gloria Mundi. Just for the record.

Just for the record.

ahem

They're playing their first date since 1980 at The Forum, on Friday Feb 13. Excitement!

Who is playing guitar?

Robin Simon the obv choice, I suppose?

I came across them in my vinyl stacks last night and had a strange feeling about them as if someone had mentioned them to me recently but I couldn't place it. I'm glad to hear they're going to play.

Guitarist TBC, according to their Myspace. Also a Manchester date on Sat Feb 14.

http://www.myspace.com/magazineofficial

funny, soapy correctness always got the raves from critics back in the day, but i always preferred real life, and even secondhand daylight. great opener on soap, but too many average sounding songs later on.

Noko is playing guitar.

I wish I was.

I wish Pete Shelley was.

I could care less really but in this case no McGeogh = no credibility for real.

Is this likely to sell out early d'ye reckon? Cos I've got a ton of gigs this month already and would like to put off buying a ticket for this for a month or 2.

tickets PURCHASED
so excited

Any hint of further dates? Like in, say, Glasgow?

And Dr C - Noko?

Hmm, bit of a let down, the claim earlier was 'a manchester guitarist' and I was hoping for Vini Riley, expecting Johnny Marr and praying it wasn't Billy Duffy.

'Shot By Both Sides' will always sound like it was released today.

Rhythm of Cruelty and 'Song From Under the Floorboards' classic too, the latter for the opening lyrics

I am angry I am ill and Im as ugly as sin
My irritability keeps me alive and kicking

Shit - how could I forget 'The Light Pours out of me'?

I'm obviously not a hardcore Magazine um devoto...

Always preferred the other band.

My favourite's always been Because You're Frightened, although Shot By Both Sides is way up there

fucks sake why did not know about this until now, fucking sold out

Because I hadn't seen you online til now. Ferg will be able to tell you all about it.

Has anybody seen them yet? They posted a few tracks on myspace and everything sounds very in tact and excellent. Adamson's bass is especially robust and chorus-y...just how I like it. The videos floating around are poorly recorded and don't seem to do them justice.

I know a bunch of you must have gone to see then already....

Wanted to but it sold out. Was this a one-off or are they likely to play any more gigs, anyone know?

Saw them at the Forum last night and they were utterly brilliant. Right from Devoto announcing at the start that they had reformed so he could 'impress a woman.' The band were a really tight ship, and Noko performed McGeogh's parts to a tee. The support act Ipso Facto, clearly fans, sang backing vocals. "That's probably their daughters' band," my friend suggested.
They played everything you might expect or hope for, except maybe Boredom and Back to Nature. Poor old Barry Adamson had to sit down to play the bass in Thankyoufalletimebemiceelf, but devoto was a malevolent live wire throughout. The only curious bit was Great Beautician in the Sky never seemed to shift into 4/4. Highlight for me was Motorcade.

there in spirit

would pretty much of paid £30 to watch Pimp Barry Adamson playing the Basslines of Magazine for two hours, but yeah, fuckin A

they did The Book, and Twenty Years Ago sounded like some lunatic house shit

I did not realise until I read Petridis' review that Devoto was wearing 3/4 length pants :/

dude is basically Jesus though so fair enough

shame about not Back to Nature/Feed the Enemy/much else off Secondhand Daylight; also wish someone had thought to wave a lighter during Permafrost

so they played most of Soap then

really really feeling like I should of found out about this sooner

devoto in 3/4 length pants, espadrilles and a pink jacket, like some demented gameshow host meets sex tourist

Great gig in Manchester last night. Thought they are sounded great - agree Devoto looked a bit odd, but Barry Adamson still looked like the coolest dude around. Fantastic bass playing too.

please come to NY!

so, will it be good? -

http://music.is-amazing.com/sites/music.is-amazing.com/files/covers/magazine.jpg

No Barry Adamson on this...apparently?

I wanted to quote a strange aside from another thread, talking about the old Rolling Stone Record Guides:

Magazine seemd very harshly dismissed for instance, a 4 line paragraph and each album three stars, but "Philadelphia" was identified as their best song which cannily seems to be the consensus now

Did I miss the news that there's a "consensus" that "Philadelphia" from The Correct Use of Soap is their best song? I'd personally rank it 5th or 6th on that album alone. I don't think it's even made it to any of their compilations.

Meanwhile, No Thyself is one of those albums I keep meaning to get hold of.

Third week bingeing on whatever Magazine I can find.

How do you rate them? I never connected with the reunion album.

Of the subsequent non-Magazine stuff that Howard did, there's good bits on his solo "Jerky Versions Of The Dream" and the two Luxuria albums but none of them are consistent enough for me to enjoy fully.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/may/04/post-punk-guitarist-john-mcgeoch-magazine-siouxsie-sioux

Anybody get this yet?

The Light Pours Out of Me: The Authorised Biography of John McGeoch
Rory Sullivan-Burke

John McGeoch was the unsung hero of the post-punk era. Blazing a trail with some of Britain’s biggest bands and most revered artists – Magazine, Siouxsie and the Banshees, The Armoury Show and Public Image Ltd. – John left an undeniable and indelible mark on music.

The Light Pours Out of Me examines John’s life and legacy, drawing on original interviews with the likes of Siouxsie Sioux, Howard Devoto, Johnny Marr, Billy Idol, John Frusciante, Keith Levene, Jonny Greenwood, Nick Launay, Ed O’Brien, Peter ‘Hooky’ Hook and many others.

xxpost I haven't heard the reunion album but love the first three very much. Digging on older live sessions I can find, too.

I really don't think that the fourth album has any bad songs, but the sound is often very harsh.

I think Luxuria's Beast Box is his best non-Magazine release. I saw the video for "The Beast Box is Dreaming" when it came out, but couldn't get into the record at the time. Now I particularly like the "torch songs" or ballads; Devoto is not as tormented as he was in the Magazine days, but there's just as much wit and perception in the lyrics and singing.

magic murder and the weather may actually be my secret favourite, tho i haven't revisited any of them for a long while

i used slightly to know ben mandelson, mcgeoch's replacement -- he co-ran a record company whose records i often reviewed, and he was both a nice person and a very folk-scholarly person, which was probably not quite the right vibe for magazine but i liked it myself

awake much of the night with truly astonishing dental pain (on antibiotics, direct to root canal when I get home from work but work mean travel and I've got several days yet to go) and the music of magazine specifically the secondhand daylight album is helping. ty magazine, top group

Check out "Seconds to Last" by Colin Newman for more explicitly dental-themed post-punk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fME8qjXbV1I