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mp3s still have the image resources embedded within them

Really? Because I recently had to do backup-wipe-and-restore on my Mac (long story, not worth getting into), and none of my album artwork was visible until I replaced my new iTunes Library file with a backup...

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

You know what goddam iTunes needs? A LABEL FIELD.
I use Grouping to store Label info, and other folks use Comments, but that's bullshit.

Roy Kasten (Roy Kasten), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Agreed. Also, Beatport allows you to browse by label, so why not the iTunes Store?

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Really? Because I recently had to do backup-wipe-and-restore on my Mac (long story, not worth getting into), and none of my album artwork was visible until I replaced my new iTunes Library file with a backup...

Apparently, iTunes can interpolate displayed album art for the whole album even when, say, only the first track has an embedded image (though nothing is then physically added to the individual files), so it may also do this from the stored images in the artwork folder. I dunno. But it doesn't strip the image resource from the audio file when it builds the album art library. (I don't use the iTunes store to fetch album art, btw, so I can't speak to that.)

M. V. (M.V.), Friday, 26 January 2007 17:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Interesting! Thanks, M.V.

Tantrum The Cat (Tantrum The Cat), Friday, 26 January 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago) link

well it would be nice if the iPod, iTunes store, CDDB and EVERYONE would start supporting the version 2 ID-3 tags. These can accommodate label name and a whole host of other fields.

PC'ers try MP3 Tag and Rename (Even though I am mainly a mac user, I use that for tagging. Go to "edit all supported tag fields") and I am pretty sure Foobar (PC) can play these files back while displaying the desired info, although that is just what I have been told (I don't listen to stuff on the PC).

I have an old version of MP3 Rage for the mac but maybe the newest version supports this more "robust" level of level 2 tags. It is also possible that Audion does this too (for playback), though I haven't used it in years. I was hoping the Zune was going to try to cater to this protocol with their product but it certainly figures that they wouldn't.

Saxby D. Elder (Saxby D. Elder), Friday, 26 January 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

I really can't figure out whether the fault lies with iTunes or my iPod, but The Game will just not show up under the 'Artists' list on my iPod. To hear any of his albums, I have to scroll through the 'Albums' list to find them by name. Seems to be the only artist this happens to. I've tried taking them off and reloading them several times.

Anyone ever encountered a similar problem?

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:16 (fifteen years ago) link

may be tagged as a compilation

cutty, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:17 (fifteen years ago) link

did you download software that will prevent you from listening to music from horrible artists? 'cause that might be the problem. just sayin'

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Kevin, you are plannin' for a Suggest Bannin'

Whiney G. Soundgarden (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:00 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^ had been saving that one up.

№ 1 (libcrypt), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:04 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, that was pretty funny.

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:11 (fifteen years ago) link

I really can't figure out whether the fault lies with iTunes or my iPod, but The Game will just not show up under the 'Artists' list on my iPod. To hear any of his albums, I have to scroll through the 'Albums' list to find them by name. Seems to be the only artist this happens to. I've tried taking them off and reloading them several times.

Anyone ever encountered a similar problem?

This happens on rare occasions, but boy is it annoying when it does. Compilation tags, huh? - will check.

willem, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Can one remove these "compilation tags"? -- hella annoying.

sexyDancer, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Uncheck in get info.

№ 1 (libcrypt), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 17:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Check the Album Artist field.

Rooty Hill v Licking Valley (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^

that's always very annoying when you look everywhere to see what's wrong and it's usually that.

Kevin Keller, Tuesday, 28 October 2008 22:06 (fifteen years ago) link

WHAT????

iTunes will not let you add .wav format files to iPods anymore???//////////////!!!!!!!!!!!!

and not FLAC files either????????????????????????????????????????????///

*crying*

Not fair. Not fair. Not fair. Not fair. Fuck it all. I'll burn this shit to disc and take my boombox to bed with me. I hate you all. *baby crying* WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

My boombox is my pacifier, now. Seriously fuck this shit. You're telling me that in order to get my most fave music onto this stupid thing called an "ipod" (which I still call "my walkman") I have to compress the sound??? Shove it up your...

Okay I'll be quiet now.

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 07:51 (fifteen years ago) link

VINYL REVOLT!!!!

WE, THE VINYL ARMY WILL CARRY RECORDS AS OUR SHIELDS AND STYLUS AS OUR SWORDS AND WE SHALL OVERCOME

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 07:53 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck you i wont do what you tell me

Kevin Keller, Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:49 (fifteen years ago) link

it won't? that is weird. you should be able to to apple lossless though, no prblem and no audible compression.

akm, Saturday, 1 November 2008 13:50 (fifteen years ago) link

what do you mean I should be able to "apple"? How do I "apple"?

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

okay wooohoo! I've added the Dif Juz gig in wav file form to my iPod! Woohoo!!!

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 19:35 (fifteen years ago) link

No damnit! It still won't play!! I HATE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:10 (fifteen years ago) link

No seriously, I went through this with Echo & The Bunnymen before. It's a total scam. iTunes hell, iPod hell. Fuck you all. Just fuck you up the butt and go buy some fucking records.

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:12 (fifteen years ago) link

I don't think iPods have ever played FLAC files, but I always figured WAV would work. You can still use Apple Lossless or AIFF.

Millsner, Saturday, 1 November 2008 20:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Switch is handy sometimes in situations like this.

Brad C., Saturday, 1 November 2008 22:31 (fifteen years ago) link

I meant that you should be able to do apple lossless, of course. wav works and has always worked. it works for me now. so unless bimble has a different ipod than I do, or something weird about his set up, then I don't know why it won't work.
apple doesn't support flac

akm, Sunday, 2 November 2008 15:01 (fifteen years ago) link

if it's your ipod that isn't accepting these, bimble, it might be because they're fucking huge. why are you using .wav files? they're like 10 times the size of a 320 mp3 at least. you won't be able to put many albums on an ipod if you have everything ripped as a .wav or .aiff.

akm, Sunday, 2 November 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

and you'll run the battery down in about three songs' time

you made my mum eat Pick Only One (sic), Monday, 3 November 2008 04:04 (fifteen years ago) link

“this portable player specifically designed to carry lots of small compressed files isn’t very good at carrying enormous uncompressed files! it’s an outrage!”

This is like Bimble trying to get the in-tray of a CD player to close once he’s wedged an LP into it.

you made my mum eat Pick Only One (sic), Monday, 3 November 2008 04:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Heheh. I know. I kinda left this thread hanging today. I wanted to respond but ended up discarding my response. I'm well aware the files are big and you wouldn't really want everything on your iPod to be in those kinds of formats but for just a few things it seems appropriate for me. I already have the Switch program, which is how I converted the FLAC to WAV. I've fiddled around with it some more tonight to find that suddenly I can't even play the mp3's of it on my iPod (and I've tried converting to .aiff too). I've got this program now I'm trying to use to fix my iPod, though. Anyway, the problem isn't that I can't ADD the files to the iPod, it's that when they're there, they won't play.

But anyway, I'm really sick of fooling with it tonight and I'm just listening to stuff on my computer. I give up.

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 3 November 2008 04:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Anyway, the problem isn't that I can't ADD the files to the iPod, it's that when they're there, they won't play.

"I've got the CD on the turntable, but the needle keeps skating off!"

you made my mum eat Pick Only One (sic), Monday, 3 November 2008 05:53 (fifteen years ago) link

LOL

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Monday, 3 November 2008 06:22 (fifteen years ago) link

well will the files play off your computer? maybe you didn't convert them correctly.

akm, Monday, 3 November 2008 17:55 (fifteen years ago) link

stupid question: how do i stop itunes from alphabeticising tracklists?

rio (r1o natsume), Monday, 3 November 2008 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Click at the top of the left-most column (next to Name).

Brad C., Monday, 3 November 2008 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

nope.

rio (r1o natsume), Monday, 3 November 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

Can't you just click the column that you want to sort by?

nate woolls, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 10:05 (fifteen years ago) link

You can't go unsorted, if that's what you mean.

Bimble, ipods have never supported wav to my knowledge, or at least not in a few years. They didn't even support mp3 until 2004 or something.

Have you trued using itunes to convert the wavs to Apple lossless? (I can't check it myself as itunes doesn't run in Linux obv, and I cbf rebooting just for this.)

Davina McCall's knickers (Autumn Almanac), Tuesday, 4 November 2008 10:14 (fifteen years ago) link

Well, when I first got my iPod last year, I was able to add a few wav files to it and play them, so I know it can be done. I suppose it's possible that iTunes updates might prevent this now though?? Anyway, yes I had considered the idea that perhaps I'm not converting the FLAC files correctly, but this seems improbable because I've tried converting them to wav, mp3 and aiff (using Switch) and none of these will play on the Pod. How do I "use iTunes to convert the wavs to apple lossless"?

Bimble, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:09 (fifteen years ago) link

change your preferences to "apple lossless", right click on the track inside itunes, choose "convert".

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:14 (fifteen years ago) link

but anyway I'm still confused as to why you can't do this because I just put a .wav file on my ipod no problem. maybe it's a firmware issue or something. but I've always been able to add .wav files to my ipods.

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

http://support.apple.com/kb/TA38530?viewlocale=en_US

akm, Tuesday, 4 November 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

change your preferences to "apple lossless", right click on the track inside itunes, choose "convert".

Can you be a bit more specific? I don't see anything on any of the tabs in Preferences that mentions apple lossless and when I right click on any track in iTunes I don't see an option to convert except to "convert ID3 tags" or "create AAC version".

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:27 (fifteen years ago) link

Well fuck me, now all of a sudden I've got the wav files to play on my iPod. WTF?

The Ungrateful Dead (Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You), Friday, 7 November 2008 07:29 (fifteen years ago) link

They didn't even support mp3 until 2004 or something

?

My original 5GB one certainly did (indeed: it was about all it did support). Unless this is a "joke" I'm not getting, in which case I apologise.

And yes, as akm suggests, there shouldn't be a problem with .wav files playing. It's obviously a problem with Switch, Bimble -- but if you've got it working, then hurrah!

NOW WITH ADDED CAPS (grimly fiendish), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Ah, I'm wrong then.

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:30 (fifteen years ago) link

(wow, I didn't mean to reply within 50 seconds)

GO BLACK DUDE FROM SPACE ♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡♥♡ (Autumn Almanac), Friday, 7 November 2008 09:31 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

god this fucking program...

so simple - yet so difficult!!

fandango, Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:19 (fifteen years ago) link


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