The Great Escape? Is it really that bad...?

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which is blur doing 'more songs about buildings and food', really.

N_RQ, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 10:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Look Inside America" vs "The Big Country"

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 11:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Just went and had a listen to the album for probably the 1st time in 8-9 years, and 'Yuko & Hiro' is properly stunning! I don't remember it being that good...

Citypark, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 14:57 (eighteen years ago) link

which is blur doing 'more songs about buildings and food', really.
-- N_RQ (bl0cke...), September 13th, 2005.

boy, i must hear that track again.

piscesboy, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"Country House" is the only Blur song I like. And its basically a Kinks song.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I think it's a great record. Its excesses can grate, but is there really any denying "The "Universal" or "He Thought of Cars"? I think the hate for this album stems in large part from the band itself. During the Blur era they came to embarrassed by their former image, and were keen to write this album off. Critics took their lead, and voila!

D. Bachyrycz, Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I'll keep it if only for "The Universal" and "Mr. Robinson's Quango." I still don't know what a quango is, or maybe I did once, but I forgot. Is the answer among the 28 older messages that are are hidden?

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I guess in keeping with the Britishness I should have said amongst.

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

quango = quasi-autonomous non governmental organisation.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

honest!

I can't remember the exact details, but IIRC they were a load of regional semi official organistations, many of which were shut down by thatcher in the eraly '80's as a kind of populist move, b/c qango had become synonymous w/profigat govt spending at that point.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Plus, I think "The Great Escape" is OK. It's not all that bad, but it isn't anywhere near as good as "modern life is rubbish" or "parklife".

Pashmina (Pashmina), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 15:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"but is there really any denying "The "Universal" or "He Thought of Cars"?"

Yes. Three times, like St. Peter.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

This is like saying you'd rather wear a dress than have your testicles torn off by wild dogs.

This is also true.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

Your agonizer, PLEASE, Mr. Soto!

k/l (Ken L), Tuesday, 13 September 2005 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

six years pass...

http://www.nme.com/news/blur--2/59677

piscesx, Sunday, 9 October 2011 03:11 (twelve years ago) link

This may well be the best Blur album ever.

Hongroe (Geir Hongro), Sunday, 9 October 2011 12:16 (twelve years ago) link

nice to hear about that! man, I love this album so much, though I can understand why people find it too obnoxious, over-the-top etc. Damon Albarn at his most sarcastic, I guess.

V79, Sunday, 9 October 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

'The Great Escape' is a good album. I don't think Blur ever made a great one - the closest that they came was 'Parklife' IMHO. Most of their albums suffer from being at least quarter of an hour/three or four songs too long. Tracks which, if they were cut, would have made the albums just that little bit stronger. I've never had a problem with the 'The Great Escape' though. When it's 'on' (which it is most of the time), it's fabulous. When it's 'off', it's the pits.

Turrican, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link

five months pass...

"Best Days" is an obscenely fantastic song, I will say that much. There is some rather slight stuff on the album as well, though.

Freedom, Sunday, 18 March 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Country House seems to define a moment; in the middle of all this ironic Benny Hill 90s lads comedy, and that great scribble of a guitar solo, it all stops while the singer tells us how depressed he really is. Then its back to the page 3 girls and the coke...

Dr X O'Skeleton, Sunday, 18 March 2012 21:01 (twelve years ago) link

Pretty much every track has something going on musically, a great riff, killer hook, good idea in the arrangement, to recommend it, and almost every song is catchy as hell. But there are some awful, awful, hateful lyrics and vocals.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:37 (twelve years ago) link

^^^^ yep

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

three years pass...

Has anyone ever hated humanity as much as Damon did on this album?

Hey Bob (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:33 (eight years ago) link

Damn, twenty years old.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 26 November 2015 07:57 (eight years ago) link

xpost, yes, Damon Albarn now.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 26 November 2015 10:33 (eight years ago) link

Pretty much every track has something going on musically, a great riff, killer hook, good idea in the arrangement, to recommend it, and almost every song is catchy as hell. But there are some awful, awful, hateful lyrics and vocals.

― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 18 March 2012 22:37 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

100x yes. It would be such a great record if it hadn't been for the lyrics.

In a weird sequence of events, we decided to watch The Krays movie the other night, which promptly lodged the lyrics to 'Charmless Man' in my head. The next day, we sang it as we walked up the hill to a pub quiz where, during the music round they played 'Charmless Man' in reverse. To add to the coincidence, just as I was writing this post, I went to Google something completely unrelated and the first result was about the Kray Twins, but not what I was looking for.

canoon fooder (dog latin), Thursday, 26 November 2015 10:54 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

Did anyone see B-Roads *finally* leaked yesterday? Maybe it was a private obsession for us Blur forum vets but it's rather like Carnival of Light has come out.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 24 November 2022 16:08 (one year ago) link

People were very weird about this. Mods demanding it must not be discussed. Show-offs who had somehow seen it informed the rest that it wasn't much cop and no one else needs to see it, yet describing every scene in great detail

PaulTMA, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:51 (one year ago) link

B-Roads? What's that?

the pinefox, Thursday, 24 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link

Late 1995 tour film / documentary, mentioned in the music press as something that was in the works. The band decided they didn't want it to come out and was quietly shelved. There wasn't too much fanfare/hype about it to begin with, but it slowly became something of a holy grail. The version that leaked could be just a rough cut, not sure

PaulTMA, Thursday, 24 November 2022 20:12 (one year ago) link

Wow. Thanks for this. I had Starshaped on video back in the day. It's odd seeing Matt Lucas in the tour party.

cajunsunday, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

https://vimeo.com/774782708

cajunsunday, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

on YouTube too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYX7s_5MnTY

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:10 (one year ago) link

Links seem to keep getting yanked all the time. At least it's out there now

PaulTMA, Thursday, 24 November 2022 21:39 (one year ago) link

Oh wow you couldn’t even *mention* it on the old Blur forum without the mods getting their knickers in a twist. It’s meant to be really boring.

piscesx, Friday, 25 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link

It’s a fun piece of fluff. I like the scene with Alex James splayed out on the floor of their green room and Damon’s deadpan encounter with a local news reporter. It veers into some Song Remains the Same territory, but it doesn’t feel like a real glimpse into their minds a la True Stories or Return to Waterloo

beamish13, Friday, 25 November 2022 04:52 (one year ago) link

I really quite love it, it's a real curate's egg. The Best Days bit is genuinely quite poignant.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 25 November 2022 05:52 (one year ago) link

Pretty good tbh. Refreshing actually, after all the hyper-curated retrospective docs of recent years, to see a contemporaneous effort like this, warts and all.

everything, Friday, 25 November 2022 07:08 (one year ago) link

I found the endless aestheticised poverty kind of gross, but the lack of easy Camden/London-stuff is quite appealing. It’s a lovely document of “what things looked like”.

Graham is the good looking one it turns out (when he’s not wearing his glasses)

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 25 November 2022 07:23 (one year ago) link

Wow yeah I was expecting it to be pretty lairy but this is really quite sweet, especially considering what a collective headfuck they must have been experiencing at the time. The interviews with the public remind me a bit of Pulp’s mini documentary about the making of the This Is Hardcore video, that was also shot on film, possibly by the same people. The Best Days bandstand bit is great yeah, I love that song, and Damon’s bit about the rings at the hotel was a bit of an unexpected choker. Baffling this was blocked/banned for so long.

piscesx, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:48 (one year ago) link

This film sounds interesting. I know nothing about it but hope to watch some time.

the pinefox, Friday, 25 November 2022 12:57 (one year ago) link


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