― Aaron A., Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:03 (nineteen years ago) link
― mitch dub (ano ano), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:07 (nineteen years ago) link
But my mother's really young so I don't think that counts...
― What we want? Sex with T.V. stars! What you want? Ian Riese-Moraine! (Eastern Ma, Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― mitch dub (ano ano), Thursday, 7 April 2005 22:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Thursday, 7 April 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― shine headlights on me (electricsound), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Drew Daniel (Drew Daniel), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Susan Douglas (Susan Douglas), Friday, 8 April 2005 00:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― MITCH'S MUM, Friday, 8 April 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link
While I kind of like Greg Kot, nice guy, pretty smart, I was sort of embarassed for him, at least based on the little pull quotes they used for the piece. I'm he sure he actually had some interesting things to say that they didn't include. But here's a grown man assessing "indie cred" and talking about "hey man, they have to get paid" and "DIY" uggghhhh ... rock journalism.
Kevin Whitehead on Fresh Air is awesome though. Big ups to tha KW
I played my mom Pinback once.. one of their "hits", and she told me.. "How can you call this music? They can't even make melodies or sing.".. then proceeded to play her Alan Jackson CD. -- donut debonair (do...), April 7th, 2005 1:02 PM.
No offense or anything DB, but I would seriously listen to five hours of Alan Jackson before I'd listen to Pinback.
― Stormy Davis (diamond), Friday, 8 April 2005 02:14 (nineteen years ago) link
Exactly. Besides, I don't think The Shins have been "DIY" for a very long time. It was almost like he just had this ready-made statement for any indie band.
― Hurting (Hurting), Friday, 8 April 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I played Future Sound of London at my parents once and mum said "ooh i like this, this is interesting". Usually, they have at me for playing my "funeral dirges" (ie, the bloody Cocteau Twins, or Dead Can Dance).
― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 8 April 2005 04:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― Onimo (GerryNemo), Friday, 8 April 2005 10:59 (nineteen years ago) link
Stormy, my mom is single ;)
(KIDDING! KIDDING!)
― donut debonair (donut), Friday, 8 April 2005 16:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― breezy, Friday, 8 April 2005 17:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― miccio (miccio), Friday, 8 April 2005 17:05 (nineteen years ago) link
AUDIE CORNISH, HOST:
It's time for your comments and, today, they're about Diplo.
(SOUNDBITE OF SONG, "EXPRESS YOURSELF")
DIPLO: (Singing) Express yourself. Express yourself. Express yourself. Express yourself. Express yourself. Release your (unintelligible).
CORNISH: My conversation with the world famous DJ this week sparked a conversation among listeners at NPR.org. The gist of that conversation was this: Many of you expect smart music coverage from us about classical releases, jazz certainly, even the work of a 14 accordion orchestra.
(SOUNDBITE OF MUSIC)
CORNISH: But Diplo is not the kind of music that some of you expect or want to hear from ALL THINGS CONSIDERED.
CORNISH: Lance Glousky(ph) of Guadalajara, Mexico, is not alone when he writes: The staff of NPR seems mostly like sane adults. Why can't they use some taste when choosing this stuff? Could anyone really like this music without being on amphetamines at a rave?
And G.Q. Lewis(ph) from Charlotte, North Carolina, writes: I typically don't provide negative feedback, but perhaps we've grown apart. NPR, where are you now? Where did you go? I miss my old friend.
Well, as we said, there was a conversation online and there were Diplo defenders. Among them, Chris Thompson(ph) of Rochester, New York, who writes: I find it hilarious that you people are tuning in to a show called ALL THINGS CONSIDERED and getting upset at the fact that they're considering all things.
― buzza, Friday, 15 June 2012 04:59 (eleven years ago) link
Those are exactly the kind of comments I hear in my head when the NYer publishes SFJ articles.
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Release your (unintelligible).
― buzza, Friday, 15 June 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
Haha that reminds me of my boss at an old job who always played XRT, Chicago's sort of adult-alternative station, in the office. Anyway, back when they regularly started playing Moby on that station he called in to them all jovial like he was old friends with whomever picked up the phone saying, "Come on guys, you really aren't going to continue to play this absolute trash on your station are you?". I mean, I'm no Moby defender, but it was pretty hilarious.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
A middle-aged partner at my firm the other day asked me what bands I was listening to lately, and then he asked if I liked the Shins or Broken Bells. I just said that I knew them but that I had kind of fallen out of touch with new music. He's a pretty cool guy, but it was still awkward somehow.
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
I think what I had actually been listening to most recently was Zs, which would have been too hard to explain.
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
God, feel like I've heard on a few occasions NPR doing a "several of you voiced complaints about our coverage of artist/s yesterday" and it is almost always some irritating, stodgy boomer (I would guess) bullshit being voiced. Whoever they are, they're the worst fucking people ever.
― circa1916, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
Aging "open-minded" boomers in not at all being open-minded non-shocker.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
wow you guys are still raging against the baby boomers huh?
my mom is awesome. she likes linda rondstadt and kenny rogers and CCR and christmas music and shit like that.
it's funny too cuz diplo is basically an ILX punching bag in other contexts.
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
I don't really blame boomers for not wanting to listen to Diplo. I don't think it's so much a matter of open-mindedness as getting old and feeling more sensitive to fast, noisy music.
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Which is also kind of why I don't get a lot SFJ reviews in the NYer, because it's like "Just face it, you are not going to get your readership to like this stuff except the young part of it that probably already knew the music before it was reviewed here."
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not so much faulting the boomers for not liking Diplo, but for actually taking the time to complain about it to NPR. Just, I don't know, suck it up, not every single new artist will be specifically tailored to your personal tastes. Chalk this one up as a miss and move on.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Well some older folks like it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9jXbp1jAZg
― MarkoP, Friday, 15 June 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
I heard the piece on Diplo, who I don't really listen to, and found it an interesting overview. But hearing the piece made me feel really old because his music was grating beyond belief. Every goddamn note was so loud. The vox were LOUD. The beats were LOUD. The synths were LOUD. There was no dynamics to anything, and I can't imagine how anyone can listen to that without getting really exhausted. Kids these days.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
old people complained about rock n roll being too loud too yknow
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
I have no intention of ever listening to Diplo, fwiw
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
diplo isn't that young! he's like 33 or something
― kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
okay but 33 isn't exacltly old either lex
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
I liked diplo's first album, which sounds like endtroducing pt. 2
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe, but waveforms of Bill Haley and the Comets won't look like a solid brick.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, because waveforms were such a pressing issue for Bill Haley.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
yeah I know, I'm familiar with the loudness wars etc nonetheless by this point it's a well established generational pattern for kids to like things louder than their parents. if it's too loud you're too old etc.
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
I think poliopolice's brain might explode if listened to the first Sleigh Bells record.
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSOSxXhoYn8&feature=relmfu
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
See sometimes in indie rock circles I feel like an opposite generational thing where stuff feels so wimpy to me compared to the 90s
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
Like botched mastering aside
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
The waveform represents how you experience sound. It's not irrelevant even though they might not have talked about in the same way we're talking about it.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:45 (eleven years ago) link
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, June 15, 2012 1:35 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
seriously tho
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
definitely true in terms of rock music
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
well even in rap, it's almost like you must be an old retro head if you wanna hear rappers yell on the mic and for producers to use big booming drums
― bronytheus (some dude), Friday, 15 June 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
― eggleston or instagram? (Hurting 2), Friday, June 15, 2012
I don't agree. As long as he has that platform and his editors do not mind, he should write about what he finds of interest, whether a stereotypical NewYorker reader is expected to like it or not.
― curmudgeon, Friday, 15 June 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
it's almost like you must be an old retro head if you wanna hear rappers yell on the mic and for producers to use big booming drums
wait waht
Waka not enough for you
― a dense custard of infinity (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 15 June 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link