Lil Jon Needs To Fall Under A Truck

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Yeah, it also means the likelihood of his actually sounding like the MCs he's accused of ripping off is slim to none.

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:39 (twenty years ago) link

everyone thinks there strokes comparison is the best (everyone maybe right)

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 22:41 (twenty years ago) link

looking like Television /= sounding like Television

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:02 (twenty years ago) link

the strokes sound more like early blondie than television.

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:05 (twenty years ago) link

Some days I wish the Strokes were crunk

(stronk?)

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:06 (twenty years ago) link

Strunk

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:07 (twenty years ago) link

and White

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:08 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not mad, d k,
but I'd like to know why you
think I like the strokes

and why I hate rap
and why I am "indie-rock"...
oh, hell, never mind.

as a matter of fact, you can think whatever you want to about my musical tastes. here, I'll even float a link to my T.I. review in PopMatters so you can understand why I like that record and what I got out of it. I'm done here anyway. Shit like that. What the fuck.
http://www.popmatters.com/music/reviews/t/ti-trapmuzik.shtml

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:17 (twenty years ago) link

haikunym don't sweat the hatas! play it cool!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:18 (twenty years ago) link

I CAN'T STAND IT BLOUNT THEY'RE DRIVING ME MAD I TELL YOU LIKE W.C. AND HIS FUCKIN' CIRCLE

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:20 (twenty years ago) link

i spelled 'mad' wrong

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:21 (twenty years ago) link

hahahahahahhaha

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 11 December 2003 23:36 (twenty years ago) link

Completely agree about TI, bad-ass! He's not crunk? Favorite song of the moment: Trill (sp?) Bill-Get On My Level. Total getting drunk & headbanging music...

― mayor motorcade (mayor motorcade), Friday, 12 December 2003 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

I remembered this weekend that, a few years ago, the Kentucky Headhunters had a country hit called "Dumas Walkers" or something, where they ordered "a slawburger and a bottle of ski." I had no idea what that meant until I saw Lil Jon explain after the "Get Low" video (where lady cops shoot super soakers at strippers, or something like that) that "ski ski ski ski ski" means, like, squirting stuff. So maybe the Headhunters' bottle of ski was in a seltzer bottle??

― chuck, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:12 (twenty years ago) link

Fascinating.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 15 December 2003 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

is this the same dk who told me illmatic was his favorite cd of all time? and then changed his mind and decided it was under construction? stop being such a bitch and playign like you hate on nyc lyrical standards when you never even been down south, youre a fucking CANADIAN. btw heres the ugly, overedited, blurb that started the comparison-- http://63.172.85.108/flagpole/FMPro?-db=reviews.fp5&-format=review2.htm&-lay=reviews&type=record&publish=yes&-op=cn&band=t.i.%20&-recid=33722&-find=

― 24s, Monday, 15 December 2003 17:58 (twenty years ago) link

i didnt know that get low now had elephant man and busta rhymes on it

― charltonlido (gareth), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:31 (twenty years ago) link

Generally once a hip hop song starts getting radio play it's only a matter of time until Busta shows up on it.

― o. nate (onate), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link

hehe...

― Jay Kid (Jay K), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

I think it's the *harshest* Busta has sounded in a long time.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

yeah the elephant man/busta remix is great. those first few seconds are total chaos. elephant man is a perfect choice- "wouldn't mind to see you get nudie!" busta is definitely on fire, i think if either came with less they'd just have gotten rolled over.

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:04 (twenty years ago) link

i just realized this song is full of rave whistles!

― rgeary (rgeary), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 18:05 (twenty years ago) link

I'm not even gonna read all this but I totally get off on the sheer PIRATEness of "Get Low." It's all yarggh and booty-minded. "Damn!" doesn't do as much for me but "Get Low" is probably the best pirate song I've heard since Metallica's "Whiskey In The Jar".

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 21:01 (twenty years ago) link

You wouldn't believe how impossible it is to find a picture on the internet of a pimp chalice with the word "pimp" lettered out on it in diamonds. I know I've seen one of those things.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 17 December 2003 23:14 (twenty years ago) link

Never been down south? I'm Third Coast Born like C-Note. I've been getting paid on these H-Town streets since I could walk. I've rolled with Keke, Pookie, ESG, Flex, everyone. I bought the first UGK tapes out of the trunk of Pimp C's Grand Prix when they did shows at Club Venue in Corsicana. Get your mind correct, you wannabe Athens thug. I've been to Athens. I know how you bitches roll. Come to Acres Home or Cloverland if you think you're hard and you want to learn how the shells burn.

― d k, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:06 (twenty years ago) link

The first time I heard Lil Flip was on an episode of Fastlane. I'm fucking lame. I drove through the Midwest once, when I was a kid. I mostly remember the hotels. I saw the baseball stadium in Chicago, on the way through, just from the highway. I love expensive running shoes. I have more Radiohead CDs than UGK ones. But sometimes I just want to pretend! "Don't rap about what you saw in the Scarface movie, nigga, when you can't even spell Uzi, nigga. We live this."

― d k, Thursday, 18 December 2003 00:09 (twenty years ago) link

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― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:13 (twenty years ago) link

Lil Jon, Lil Scrappy, Pastor Troy. Crunk stuff is some of my favorite hip hop ever. It's so driving and in you face. It makes me want to yell the words along with it. This stuff is almost as invigorating as Andrew WK.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 December 2003 05:56 (twenty years ago) link

I love Lil' Jon. (and Dirty South in general). I think the 'da dum. . " intro to "Get Low" is actually one of the Ying Yang Twins. "Get Low" is absolutely in my personal top five songs of the year.

What do people think about "Naggin'" by the Ying-Yang Twins. I think the lyrics have some depth that's not usually seen in Crunk.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link

"Naggin'" is in my top 10 for the year. "Get Low" too I think. Have you heard "Naggin' Part 2: The Answer," where the ladies get their revenge, Sam? It's dope: "When you get home I'll be gone."

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 18 December 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link

who is it by?

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:00 (twenty years ago) link

yeah, a lot of the great stuff about "Get Low" (well, everything besides the beat and a couple of the chants) that people attribute to Lil Jon is actually the Ying Yangs. "Naggin'" is pretty great too, I wanna hear that sequel!

can anyone give me an honest answer as to what is supposed to be in a pimp cup (and don't say "pimp juice")? is it for alcohol, holy water, fruit punch, or what?

― Al (sitcom), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:02 (twenty years ago) link

Most of the time I don't think anything's supposed to be in them. They're just symbolic and suggestive of royalty. Can you imagine if something was in them? Bling-bling rappers would always be splashin' shit all over the place.

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

it comes right after "Naggin'" on the YYTwins album...Ms. Flawless and The Rhythum are the women. Same music, flipped script. Genius.

x/p

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:03 (twenty years ago) link

Ying Yangs Twins' album will make my top ten list for the year (at # 4 or 5 probably, behind David Banner's screwed and chopped version of Missisippi but ahead of Bubba Sparxxx), and "Naggin'" is not the best song on it -- "Haaangh" or however you spell it is. It's Frank Kogan's # ONE album of the year. Here's his review, which is great:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0345/kogan.php

My own brief mini-review of the album (along with Lil Jon's and Youngbloodz' albums) is at the Licks link upthread.

― chuck, Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:28 (twenty years ago) link

yeah Chuck my review
will be on PopMatters soon
I love that disc too

but ultimately
too much similarity
knocked it off my list

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 18 December 2003 18:34 (twenty years ago) link

Lil Scappy's Head Bussa is another great crunck track too.

― A Nairn (moretap), Thursday, 18 December 2003 19:26 (twenty years ago) link

i think the many great puns offered on this thread are themselves an argument in favor of the proliferation of "crunk"

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 18 December 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link

I will have to get the Ying Yang twins. Being a po' teacher who connects via dialup my new music acquisitions are few and depend largely on my lil' brother burning me shit.

Lately I've been rocking Obie Trice's album and The Love Below like Homer rocks Duff.

I love how Haikunym loves crunk rap *and* country. He's like my poetic twin!

― Viva La Sam (thatgirl), Thursday, 18 December 2003 22:53 (twenty years ago) link

viva la sam, meet chuck eddy. chuck eddy, meet viva la sam.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 18 December 2003 22:55 (twenty years ago) link

chuck loves that stuff too,
as do all right-thinking folk
and the queen mother

my thesis has been
that country IS hip-hop now
but no one agrees

― Haikunym (Haikunym), Thursday, 18 December 2003 23:03 (twenty years ago) link

Very dangerous point to make with amateur!st in the room, Haikunym.

Trust me.

― chuck, Friday, 19 December 2003 00:23 (twenty years ago) link

And if you don't believe me, look here:

Why I Love Country Music

― chuck, Friday, 19 December 2003 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.getlost.net/tokyo/tl/crunky.jpg

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 19 December 2003 00:29 (twenty years ago) link

crunk'n'country!!:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0337/eddy.php

― chuck, Friday, 19 December 2003 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

but any point is better taken when essayed with modesty and humor!!!

― amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 19 December 2003 11:04 (twenty years ago) link

"the modesty of lil jon should not be overstated"

― fiddo centington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 19 December 2003 14:17 (twenty years ago) link

i totally think crunk and country are the same. thats why i love them

― charltonlido (gareth), Saturday, 20 December 2003 19:14 (twenty years ago) link

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