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i've only had one or two job interviews ever, and none of the jobs i've ever had have come via them. there are loads of books on interview techniques though...just browse around in the careers section at waterstone's if you haven't already? i hate interviews too.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 13:46 (seventeen years ago) link

Braveclub, do you have any idea where you're going wrong? Has anyone given you any feedback? I've never heard of any courses but it might well be the sort of thing a good acting coach or CBT practitioner might be able to help you with.

This has all been said upthread, but finding ways to prevent yourself being too nervous is a good start.

Having been on both sides (and this has been said too) the thing that really strkes me about interviews is that an interview is not an interrogation; it's a two-way process, and it's your best opportunity to find out whether this is the right job for you. It can be hard to put yourself in the right frame of mind if you're desperate for a job, but bear in mind that employers are quite like dates - desperation is not attractive. I used to interview quite a lot in my old job, and one of the most off-putting things an interviewee could do was fail to ask questions or only ask questions like 'what would my training and promotion opportunities be'. You need to understand what the daily grind of that job will be like - research it beforehand as much as possible and make sure you come out of the interview with an understanding of whether or not it's the right job for you. You and the interviewer are equals in that respect - you both want the 'best fit'.

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Zora, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 13:56 (seventeen years ago) link

It sounds like you are just tense. Try breathing exercises? I used to have a big problem with not breathing properly when speaking in public; I'd get more and more tense and breathless and my voice would get squeakier, making me appear nervous even though I didn't actually feel nervous and I knew my stuff. Voice coaching from an acting tutor, which revolved around breathing exercises, really sorted that out.

Zora, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 14:00 (seventeen years ago) link

mandee's "i think if you apply for jobs you are actually a good match for and just being confident will take you far" + everything Zora said = pretty much OTM. Yor are selling yourself to them - you have to be something they want. I had an interview for a job I thought was above me last week and it must have been written all over my face that I was riddled with "I'm such a fraud, what am I doing here" feelings of inadequacy. I didn't get the job. I then went for an interview for a job I was comfortable with in a field I know well and with a company I knew a fair bit about. The difference was tremendous. I started this morning.

Always ask for feedback. It's not tremendously pleasant being told you talk too fast or don't elaborate enough on specific examples or whatever, but AT LEAST YOU KNOW.

ailsa, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay Manders, I hoped all went well.

I actually got good at interviews, very good, by applying for a bunch of random jobs & just throwing out whatever I felt like to see what went well. Practice.

Abbott, Wednesday, 11 April 2007 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

so like, when interviewers ask you what your 'weaknesses' are, WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO SAY?

braveclub, Thursday, 12 April 2007 09:36 (seventeen years ago) link

is "too much of a perfectionist" too much of a stock response now? anyway yeah, stuff like that. emphatically not "i get bored easily, don't like talking to people and have a penchant for procrastination"

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 09:47 (seventeen years ago) link

being 'too much of a perfectionist' is a bad thing in my job. time constraints and all that.

braveclub, Thursday, 12 April 2007 09:54 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah i guess there's no such thing as too much perfectionism in your trade!

er...i guess a 'good' weakness might be something like "not very confident", or communication, or something (obv not saying those are your weaknesses, just that they are stock weaknesses which are actually kind of not that relevant to your job)

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah really you want to list weaknesses that go some way towards explaining the things that might be wrong with your interview technique (ie lack of confidence). It doesn't matter if it's wrong, it's makes it sound like you've got some humility (unlike "too much of a perfectionist").

I once told an interviewer that one of my weaknesses was not phoning my mum regularly enough. They liked that.

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:14 (seventeen years ago) link

i once considered replying to the weakness question with "basic hand-eye coordination" but chickened out :(

lex pretend, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:18 (seventeen years ago) link

I think the thing to remember if you're nervous in interviews is to SLOW DOWN. If you sound measured and thoughtful it's going to a) buy you more time to work out what you want to say and b) stop you saying the first thing that comes into your head and looking panicky and/or a bit of an idiot.

I interview people in your line of work for a living and exceptions are made for nerves, it's always better to get someone with a bit of humility rather than an arrogant cockfarmer, but there's nothing worse than interviewing someone who doesn't think before they speak (or gives that impression).

Matt DC, Thursday, 12 April 2007 10:19 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

nothing sadder than seeing the long line of interviewees streaming in and out, followed by the discussions i overhear about their positives and negatives.

omar little, Thursday, 26 June 2008 22:56 (fifteen years ago) link

three years pass...

nothing worse than realising you have no interest in a job 5 mins into an interview. as i did this morning. pretty much have another job i'm really keen on so was always a case of just seeing if it was somehow miraculous.

it was going really well, i was nailing every answer despite not caring (which may help), then couldn't resist the amazing dry internalol of

"how would you improve our website"

"i haven't looked at it, sorry."

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:40 (twelve years ago) link

I have the job interview of my life this afternoon. Idiotically, I was up all night preparing for it and now I'm shattered. Nice one Dog Latin, you plonker.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

"how would you improve our website"

"by not getting the job"

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 10:42 (twelve years ago) link

nothing worse than realising you have no interest in a job 5 mins into an interview.

Well, at that point you can relax and use the rest of the interview as practice.

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:11 (twelve years ago) link

true

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link

i was nailing every answer despite not caring (which may help)

haha yes this is always the way. some might draw parallels with "pulling" here.

40% chill and 100% negative (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:15 (twelve years ago) link

going into a job interview for a job you don't want guarantees an offer 95% of the time IME.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link

Can you try to convinve yourself you don't want this job then?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

.. because it's a crummy job and they desperate for people?

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:26 (twelve years ago) link

win-win situation: two job interviews, either would do but the second one is *TheOne*.

Int1= relaxed, I'll worry about job 2.
Int2= relaxed, int1 went well, so even if I don't get job2, job1 is in bag..

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:27 (twelve years ago) link

I had an interview which basically *frightened* me once - the woman interviewing me (it was a TL position for a helpdesk) banged on and on about how young the team were and how half of them were "a bit uncontrollable" and that "discipline is a problem" and I was like "oh god, Ive never even BEEN a helpdesk TL before, I dont need a team of 19 year old dorks who would rather be playing God of War than listening to me" and I got up and walked out and was SO reliveed when I didnt get the job.

Bloompsday (Trayce), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 11:54 (twelve years ago) link

I once applied for a job as a junior archivist (or sth similar to that, can't recall exactly) with the heritage park in one of my old cities. When I went to the interview, they instead interviewed me for the position of 'interpreter', ie the people who dress up all old-timey and role-play all day to show kids how people churned butter and ran hospitals or schools back in the olden days. I had to do things in the interview like 'tell a story about a time you did something new or different' and answer the question 'do you like children?' I am NOT good at improv/storytelling and I dislike kids.

They must've been p desperate for people because they offered me the job a few days later. I did not take them up on the offer.

salsa shark, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:30 (twelve years ago) link

LOL, you should have said in the interview, "I am NOT good at improv/storytelling and I dislike kids"... still might have got the job tho

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 12:33 (twelve years ago) link

I might as well have said those things!

salsa shark, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:13 (twelve years ago) link

One time I was investigating a move back upnorth, and had an interview for a job.

Interview one went really well, so far so god. Interview 2 was obviously with their 'beat-down' guy, who promptly decided that I was uncommitted, and reduced the salary offer *and* the role to 'looking after legacy systems' without any committment to training on the new platform.

So, I said no when they sent their final offer.

Two things happened: I got a nice contract role in't city which ran for 18 months, and by the time that job concluded I noticed that the firm up north had gone bust and closed.

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:15 (twelve years ago) link

good, not god. ALthough I was pretty good...

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 13:16 (twelve years ago) link

It's over. I'm a nervous wreck and I'm sweating more than Josef Fritzl on MTV Cribs.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 14:28 (twelve years ago) link

"und here ist where das magic happens..."

shake it, shake it, sugary pee (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:01 (twelve years ago) link

A few years ago I went for an interview for a research position that was lower paid and a bit more junior than I was doing. It was near home, in a new industry and I was desperate to leave my job. I thought the interview went okay, I answered all of their questions and gave solid examples. Then one of the interviewers went 'So, what do you do in your spare time?' and I kind of fell apart. I hadn't really prepared that one and didn't want to say 'pub' & 'record shops' so I paused for a bit said "y'know, just normal.. stuff." and they looked at me like I'd confessed to be a serial killer.

The next day later the agent called, she was furious. She said the feedback was "he could do the job but didn't seem that bothered, so we're not going to offer." Since then I have found that a lot of interviewers are jobsworths and want you to praise their company and tell them how you've wanted to work for the company since you were five. This may be particularly finance companies.

mmmm, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

want you to praise their company and tell them how you've wanted to work for the company since you were five

... they all do this, don't they? I thought every one knew this?

R. Stornoway (Tom D.), Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:07 (twelve years ago) link

I guess they do all want this, but I wish some places would acknowledge that it's nobody's lifelong dream to work there. Plus there are plenty places where they don't even tell you enough about the role for you to have a decent answer prepped for that.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:11 (twelve years ago) link

An int recently asked "Any Questions?" as their introductory question.

"Not at this stage, no" I replied. They seemed spectacularly underprepared, and I was less than impressed.

It's just as much a process of Them impressing you as much as you impressing them.

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:41 (twelve years ago) link

My experience since has taught me that the individuals that over play the corporate line and want you to be in awe of the organisation and all that it represents are just putting on a show. Once you're two weeks in to the job you can find them in the pub on a Friday evening bitching and moaning, ruing the day they joined the company. I just don't know why they do it. When I've interviewed people I just tried to gauge their motivations, at the particular stage in their career, to want the job. If they are going work in sales & marketing then they should have at least some understanding of the business aims and positioning and to have affinity them. The rest of the BS is just unnecessary.

mmmm, Wednesday, 13 July 2011 15:58 (twelve years ago) link

one month passes...

Is it now a thing that employers do not even bother to call you back after an interview to let you know you did not get the job? Pretty used to never hearing from 90% of the places I apply to now, but it seems a bit rich to not let someone know after they have taken the time to come and talk to you, perhaps even prepared a presentation (as I have on some occasions), and then ignore them when they email to ask if the position has been filled.

Actually, people in general do not seem to feel obligated to reply to email requests anymore.

A41 (admrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

Sing of the times?

A41 (admrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

haha

A41 (admrl), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 21:41 (twelve years ago) link

one year passes...

I can't keep going for interviews for jobs that I can do well and be gripped by so much fear that I turn into a jibbering idiot.

djh, Friday, 19 July 2013 14:24 (ten years ago) link

job interviews are basically voodoo to me by this point

doesn't help tht I'm looking in a sector that is struggling & so flooded w/talent. still, getting interviews, so that's a plus

auscozeichnet (cozen), Friday, 19 July 2013 17:56 (ten years ago) link

I don't like job interviews

Treeship, Friday, 19 July 2013 17:57 (ten years ago) link

How are you all preparing?

Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Friday, 19 July 2013 18:07 (ten years ago) link

I had an assessment & interview on Monday for a job I really wanted. Breezed through the assessment, got called back for the afternoon interviews and blew it. "Too quiet" and didn't sell myself, apparently.

nate woolls, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:13 (ten years ago) link

interviews are really stressful to prepare for and a bad interview completely and utterly sucks. but a good interview can be really fun

marcos, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

how do you tell the good and bad apart?

auscozeichnet (cozen), Friday, 19 July 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

you just know?

auscozeichnet (cozen), Friday, 19 July 2013 18:17 (ten years ago) link

Good interview is like a conversation

waterface, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

Bad interview is like bad sex with a woman while her father is watching you

waterface, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:19 (ten years ago) link

A lot of it is down to the interviewers - I've had lots that just didn't really know what they were doing.
A good one tends to be more like an actual discussion imo.
Having only been on an interviewing panel once, I'd say be enthusiastic. As a kind of serious and reserved person it made me think about how I present myself at interviews.

lol xp

kinder, Friday, 19 July 2013 18:20 (ten years ago) link


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