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What are Winamp's minimum system requirements?
Minimum system requirements

500MHz Pentium III or comparable
64MB RAM
15MB Hard Disk Space
16bit Sound Card
Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows 2003
1x speed or greater CD Burner (Required for Burning)
2x speed or greater CDROM (Required for Ripping)
Recommended system requirements
1.5 GHz Pentium IV or comparable
128MB RAM
30MB Hard Disk Space
32bit Sound Card
Windows 2000, Windows XP
8x speed or greater CD Burner (Required for Burning)
16x speed or greater CDROM (Required for Ripping)

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, download size has very little to do with how much RAM stuff eats.

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Winamp was good up to version 2.82. Then it was poor.

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:13 (eighteen years ago) link

Uh, iTunes eats a ton of RAM on PC compared to Winamp. It takes ages just to open the fucking piece of shit. Thank the lord for Anapod.

― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:15 (eighteen years ago) link

I use iTunes for extended listening sessions (and ripping but not burning) and WinAmp if I just want to hear one or two things quickly.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:16 (eighteen years ago) link

iTunes does lack a mode where you can, like stevem says, just listen to one or two tracks. It's frustrating when it tries to copy everything to the music library, forcing you to hunt it down and delete it (worse when it's a poorly-tagged file).

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Winamp's user interface was designed by idiots. Anyone who keeps on using it when there are plenty of good players out there is insane.

http://www.foobar2000.org/

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

Jon please come wave your dick in my face too

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:42 (eighteen years ago) link

"It's frustrating when it tries to copy everything to the music library"

TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah it was v easy to reject iTunes offer to mess with my existing setup.

Winamp interface is fine. Foobar2000 has a silly name and smells of wee.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.home.zonnet.nl/y.van.der.meer/i/winamp-media-library.png

NEVERMIND THE AWFUL SKINS D00DZ MAKE EVEN

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Tech dudes be angry lolz
XPOST
WINAMP IS FINE IF YOU RUN AT 800X600 AND HAVE PERFECT VISION

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

I JUST XPOSTED .... MYSELF

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link

my itunes library structure is wuvly, and wuvs stevem (well base58.com) second only to "compilations" at the mo :-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

MAYBE YOU SHOULD GIVE UP ON COMPUTERS IF YOUR EYES DON'T HAVE THE GONADS TO HANDLE WINAMP, MAN!

xpost

― Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link

TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN

WHAT IF I WANT IT ON NORMALLY?

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link

god I hate WinAmp. Even though AOL bought them YEARS ago and had tons of mindshare and stuff they got stomped by iPod/iTunes -- originally a Mac only system -- in like a year!

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link

I love how passionate you people get about this.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Attack of the French!

I use WinAmp at work still because I can't install anything else.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.skinbase.org/files/shots/Black_Vinyl_PRO_small.JPG

HOPE YOU DON'T HAVE A WOBBLY MOUSE OR YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO STAY ON THOSE TINY BUTTONS

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.car.co.nz/images/skins/mini.gif

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"Includes an MP3 of 'Saying Sorry' by Hawthorne Heights"

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:17 (eighteen years ago) link

http://download.nullsoft.com/customize/component/2004/9/1/S/large_image/Black_Sabbath_-_Southern_Cross.png

ihttp://download.nullsoft.com/customize/component/2004/6/3/S/large_image/The_Oddsocks_Skin.jpg

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That's definitely the only competitor for iTunes out there.

― TOMBOT, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:21 (eighteen years ago) link

"TURN THAT OPTION OFF THEN
WHAT IF I WANT IT ON NORMALLY?"

well if you want it BOTH ways, you can hold down apple key to temporarily over-ride that setting :-)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

while dragging in the mp3 i mean obv

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Alan, I kiss you

― steal compass, drive north, disappear (tissp), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:24 (eighteen years ago) link

i meant 'alt' (red face)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:30 (eighteen years ago) link

(which makes more sense really)

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

how do people organize their playlists? i've just started having lots of music on my computer and i've realized that making a new playlist for every album isn't going to cut it. it's way too much scrolling. but the prospect of making playlists for each genre - and worse, deciding what those genres are - makes my eyes bleed.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:31 (eighteen years ago) link

well in iTunes, you don't need to make album playlists. i make smart playlists based on genre and some other bits of metadata, then i review the results and tweak the genre cos values for that you get out of CDDB are next to meaningless.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link

USE THE BROWSER VIEW

YOU ARE ALL LIBERAL ARTS MAJOR MORONS. METADATA SMART PLAYLISTS ARE YOUR FRIENDS

I WISH I HAD FRIENDS :(

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:37 (eighteen years ago) link

Tom, you agree with me right? It is 100x awful

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

it's always about the metadata.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

from your link jon: "The first thing I’ve done is organise my music into genre related playlists such as Indie, Dance, Chill etc. You could do this using a smart playlist and matching the genre to a specified keyword. However I find that the predefined genres tend to be pretty poorly defined."

indie. dance. chill. eyeball-bleeding followed by a degustatory self-immolation if you ever heard me using these fucking words near my music.

i may have to try browser view. the irksome thing about it, from my extremely limited trial runs, is that i don't want to remember that Pop Single #89 is from some random compilation, click on the compilation, etc.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:43 (eighteen years ago) link

this thread is brilliant.

tracer i use a smart playlist with songs that i haven't played and another with songs i've played but not rated and i have them randomized.

then another with songs rated four or five, again randomized.

i never use genre for anything.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:44 (eighteen years ago) link

for finding anything in particular i just habitually use the search bar.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I certainly don't organize my shit that way as I have several hundred gigabytes but for fuck's sake USE THE BROWSER VIEW..

THERE IS A SEARCH BUTTON

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost to sc

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:45 (eighteen years ago) link

errr xpost across sc even

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:46 (eighteen years ago) link

i am all for browser view, but after years of resisting it i do playlists for my albums now, but just for my ipod. it's easier than remembering what albums i have on there and what artists are represented by just individual songs.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:52 (eighteen years ago) link

i created one playlist in iTunes called Favourites which I drag stuff into if it's a fave. then set to shuffle.

or just shuffle the main Library directory.

in the unlikely (unless it's 'Silent Shout' it seems) event of wanting to hear several tracks from the same album lately I just locate it in the main Library directory by listing by artist, then toggle off shuffle.

WOO ROCKET SCIENCE

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

indie. dance. chill. eyeball-bleeding followed by a degustatory self-immolation

is that last one the genre for james blunt?

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 17:59 (eighteen years ago) link

"i created one playlist in iTunes called Favourites"

you could do a smart playlist version of this using "any of" play "count > x" and "comments contains 'fave'" then you can put in that keyword in the comments to nudge it into the playlist if it's play count ain't high enough

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

hm, i never use comments

― R.I.P. Concrete Octopus ]-`: is a guy with a belly button piercing (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:05 (eighteen years ago) link

i could but i are moran who didn't really understand what you just said. (xpost)

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

wow smart playlists sound fun - i'm going to make a reverse fav i think that will force me to listen to every song at least once.

― ken c (ken c), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:06 (eighteen years ago) link

altho i am starting to, but it doesn't seem worth it!

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:07 (eighteen years ago) link

or use star ratings and make a smart playlist that only includes stuff rated 3-4 stars or whatevs

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:08 (eighteen years ago) link

if you just listen to a "most played" smart playlist all the time you will enter a logic loop from which you may never escape.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 18:09 (eighteen years ago) link

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