Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious

this all is finally, actually happening huh

Iowa yard sign report: I've yet to see ANY Biden signage in my county, a Clinton/Obama labor stronghold with substantial minority populations. Lots of Pete and Bernie, at least some for all the rest. There's a giant "TULSI" display in the neighborhood, one house with Cory Booker in several windows, and a yard divided between "LIZ" and "AMY." It's a quirky electorate.

new poll out:

sanders: 28%
warren: 25%
pete: 14%
biden: 12%

which? And of what state?

Karl was "joking"

it was one of those learning jokes that makes you appreciate the existence of the thread you're in. ...right?

*ducks*

Iowa yard sign report: I've yet to see ANY Biden signage in my county, a Clinton/Obama labor stronghold with substantial minority populations. Lots of Pete and Bernie, at least some for all the rest. There's a giant "TULSI" display in the neighborhood, one house with Cory Booker in several windows, and a yard divided between "LIZ" and "AMY." It's a quirky electorate.

― Briania, Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:55 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i live in south tx, i have seen maybe two biden stickers. lots of bernie, couple pete, lots of beto, few warren, couple yang

where beto voters break in tx is gonna be interesting/determining. only one post-beto poll in tx and it broke heavily for biden. i assume tx castro voters are going warren or sanders, but thats still a small number

is there any study saying "signage = traction" or is it just something we do

house with Cory Booker in several windows

^^Underrated Giallo.

its a thing we do

xp

Why because it's intersting. All it means on a local level is that Biden's people haven't got their signs out yet. The Abby Finkenauer endorsement is more significant.

Marianne Williamson, who has been campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination on a message of love and has been urging voters to “join the evolution,” has laid off her entire staff in New Hampshire and nationally, sources close to the campaign confirmed to WMUR on Thursday.

i thought she dropped out weeks ago

just proves that love is worthless

Williamson raised her national profile for her business, which is basically herself talking or writing books, so she has already met her most basic objective in running.

new poll out:

sanders: 28%
warren: 25%
pete: 14%
biden: 12%

which? And of what state?

― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, January 2, 2020 3:55 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Chapo Policy Insitute, Left Dakota

lol C Grisso

Marianne Williamson, who has been campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination on a message of love and has been urging voters to “join the evolution,” has laid off her entire staff in New Hampshire and nationally, sources close to the campaign confirmed to WMUR on Thursday.

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, January 2, 2020 2:19 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

fucking AT LAST

surprised that MW had a staff

After Gillibrexit and Go'Rourke, the best I could do was CastrAu revoir.

"So Long, Marianne" is trending.

Then it's a waiting game to see whether we can make Klobucharrividerci happen.

surprised that MW had a staff

― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, January 2, 2020 3:50 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

one good grift deserves another

as con artists go, she almost outlasted Booker

Underrated Giallo

arf

from the other thread:

i was very bummed to learn that my otherwise super-cool east coast in-law family is also rooting for biden, pete, and bloomberg (they used to work for bloomberg when he was mayor, so at least i can sort of understand that one i guess). what's esp frustrating about their stance is that they say they really want medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, etc etc, but think the most important thing is electability and making sure democrats nominate someone who can beat trump
SIGH
― But guess what? Nobody gives a toot!😂 (Karl Malone), Thursday, January 2, 2020

I think this is where I find myself tbh. I am so angry right now. I just really want the democratic nominee, whoever it is, to WIN.

yang first in with the hot take

War with Iran is the last thing we need and is not the will of the American people. We should be acting to deescalate tensions and protect our people in the region.

— Andrew Yang🧢 (@AndrewYang) January 3, 2020

as hot takes go, that seems completely sound

yeah, i regretted "hot take" as soon as i posted. i just meant take, regardless of temp

well, i think this is all we needed to know: the race for democratic candidate is finally over.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/kevin-costner-endorses-pete-buttigieg-at-iowa-rally-1264728

Dances With Petes

Peterworld

The Buttiguard

Bull McKinsey

Butt, And To The Gieg

Jesus guys
Butt Durham
Carry on

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMjAwMTQyNzkwNV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNTgyMzE3MQ@@._V1_.jpg

A friend of mine, who calls himself a progressive, and who ran for local office last year (city council) on a progressive platform, has really been trying to find a full- or part-time job in politics to get a career going. Yesterday, he announced he finally found one, as a Field Organizer with . . . the Bloomberg campaign. And he's somehow flabbergasted that a lot of his friends are like "WTF dude?" And he's responding to any criticism of Bloomberg as a candidate with "thank you for your congratulations and well wishes."

Politics really makes some people stupid.

Politics Careerism really makes some people stupid.

I have an in-law who used to work for Bloomberg
said he once rode in an elevator with B and a female exec
exec told B that she was pregnant
he said she should "kill it" if she wanted to keep her job

so Yay! pro-choice!

lord of the rings, but ppl fall under the spell of the ring just by hearing that someone they support might hold it one day

xxp

xp i don't believe this story ever happened

well the guy who told it to me is supporting Bloomberg for Prez so bashing him isn't his thing

I've heard that Bloomberg story, or a very similar one, elsewhere.

it's from a sexual harassment lawsuit: https://gawker.com/5979679/id-do-her-a-brief-history-of-michael-bloombergs-public-sexism

"In a deposition, Bloomberg is reported to have conceded saying "I'd do her" in relation to Garrison, but he insisted that he thought "do" meant to have a personal relationship with someone. Other reports from the deposition say Bloomberg almost stormed out of the proceedings when the opposing attorney asked him if he thought the porn film Debbie Does Dallas meant Debbie has a personal relationship with everyone from Dallas."

Apt question!

he insisted that he thought "do" meant to have a personal relationship with someone

extremely normal

is anyone looking inside their heart this morning, feeling weighed down by sin? do you feel the weight of shame on your shoulders, holding you down? i want you to put your faith in the lord and throw satan's hands off of your body. i want you to stand up and make your way to the altar, and i want you to do jesus, right here, today, i want all of us to do jesus today, because the lord is coming and we cannot know the day

The lord is edging

Buttigieg will end reduced, except among people who think they and their friends—young, good schools, management job—would make a good President. That is not a good place to end up. Maybe if he lived in New Jersey. https://t.co/omz7Y7ByI8

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 2, 2020

When asked if he would call Suleimani's death an assassination (by @alexrego_tweets) @MikeBloomberg said "that's an outrageous thing to say." On the proper way to speak about his death, MB "I don't know, get a dictionary and take your pick." https://t.co/JMOgO4zqVd pic.twitter.com/38IfwjTELP

— Tim Perry (@tperry518) January 3, 2020

Lol reduced from being a college town mayor?

The foundation of democracy is that an individual vote is always morally valid. People can be stupid, but not “wrong.”

The results - the electoral college choosing the less popular candidate, the winner using his seat for disgusting emoluments, Stephen Miller and his ilk running the NSC - can be morally abhorrent. But the individual voters are not wrong. Misinformed, uneducated, disengaged, maybe, but not wrong. The vote is a private choice and sacrosanct; that is the ideal of democracy.

is it time for a new thread?

Certain posters’ inability to comprehend this is most likely due to a blessed distance from political science classes, which I respect and admire, in a way.

we’re not even to 10,000 posts dude

it feels like a major crossroads in the campaign and now we can poll the final 2

u r otm about the vote btw

"You can demean them as human beings but never say they're wrong" is batshit insane.

"Wrong" choices have nothing to do with "moral validity." There's nothing "morally invalid" with risky sex - but herpes follows you for the rest of your life.

rmde but I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you don't understand how voting works, since you don't understand how elections work either

Herpes 2020.

Frankie baby!

this is probably our silliest argument yet (today)

get in here, goons
2020 Democratic presidential primary thread, pt 3: life is very long

good night and good luck

Milo has herpes?