Rolling Cannabis Politics Thread

jim if it helps either way you are paying significantly less than i am to buy it illegally in new york

3.5 grams is pretty much automatically $50-60 USD here from every dealer and service i've dealt with

ouch!

it's crazy how the 6th and 10th largest US states opened recreational stores in the last month and one of the lieutenant governors even showed up and bought weed at one and it seems barely newsworthy.

is this kind of the end of prohibition in the national consciousness, save for the long dragged out resistance from the puritanical or vindictive who want to keep arresting people? When was the last time the dea raided a shop anywhere?

so an illegal dispensary is like a storefront that sells black market goods? we def do not have those.

I expect the illegal dispensaries are cheaper in large part because they evade the taxes and fees the legal dispensaries must pay. Now that weed is legal, but regulated, in BC I'd expect that the illegal dispensaries will be forced into legality or else shut down. But, if the experience of WA, OR and CA are any guide, then BC will soon have a glut of weed supply and prices will drop.

medical store prices in mi went way up after it was legalized (to 50 for 3.5gm which is insane) and only a few strictly rec stores have opened so it's in weird chaos mode right now

is this kind of the end of prohibition in the national consciousness, save for the long dragged out resistance from the puritanical or vindictive who want to keep arresting people?

That's a pretty significant "save for." There are vast swaths of this country that are still very conservative, from dry counties to conceal carry states to those closing abortion clinics. There are states and places as reactionary as others are progressive. The question I have (for now) is how much police action there will be on the Wisconsin and Indiana borders; I've heard of people getting busted for bringing fireworks here across state lines, I can only imagine WI and IN will be pretty hardcore about catching people trying to bring pot out. Then again, who knows?

Also, recreation and sin taxes are annoying, but IL needs money, badly.

The question I have (for now) is how much police action there will be on the Wisconsin and Indiana borders; I've heard of people getting busted for bringing fireworks here across state lines, I can only imagine WI and IN will be pretty hardcore about catching people trying to bring pot out. Then again, who knows?

I don't think you need to worry about this too much. Some people may get busted if they press their luck but they always will regardless of their contraband.

I've heard of people getting busted for bringing fireworks here across state lines

When you consider the volume of traffic across state lines, the available police resources, and the constitutional protections against unreasonable searches and seizures, I can't imagine this happens very often, unless it is concomitant to a routine traffic stop, or else you are caught Driving While Black.

there are still states where you can't buy liquor on sundays. i don't imagine even when it's cleared nationally that every city will be down.

it becomes a localized issue. towns and counties can block dispensaries. see: western colorado, eastern washington. but then as it turns out you can be racist/sexist/reactionary and still be a pothead. so conservative areas eventually realize it's nbd. i'm sure there are some differences in the details but it's been recreationally legal in the west for years and a lot of the what-ifs itt have plenty of precedent at this point.

congrats il!

xpost There are cities and towns here that have said no, iirc. Like ... Naperville? More than a few.

"Consumers are expected to spend $420 million at Illinois dispensaries this year, Brightfield Group predicts."

Well played, Brightfield Group

does any one have a clue why the shares of mary jane shares are not stopping to plunge? the canadian etf has lost more than 60% in the last year or so.

It's a good question. I've heard things have been pretty poorly run up in Canada, but yeah, they've been down pretty much across the board. One theory is that investors have often been working outside the purview of advisors, who I suspect have been pretty hands-off, given its gray area status. So what's been pushing and pulling the market has perhaps been day traders and amateurs, parties that thrive on instability. Let's see how it goes this year.

I was just reading a local editorial countering a claim in a different paper that as early as last October the smell of pot was everywhere. This new column insisted its author hadn't encountered the smell *anywhere* since legalization, which makes me question his sense of smell, because yeah, it's everywhere. On the highway (har), in museums, driving around the suburbs, walking around the city. Granted, it doesn't take much, but it is a bit of a nuisance. I came to the conclusion some weeks ago that after legalization 90% of Chicago would smell like either pot or fast food, and, well ... that's about right. I suppose in any densely populated area it's impossible to expect every person to be considerate. I just tell my kids to get used to it.

In the meantime, the sleepy alley entrance by the local dispensary has never been busier. Buncha dudes bundled together for the elements, streaming into the streets. It's like Goose Island's Black Friday every day. I'm curious if it's just a weekend and holiday thing. For sure for now it's mostly a morning thing, since currently to try and counter supply issues recreational sales have supposedly been limited to a few hours, to guarantee medical card holders an adequate supply. Though honestly I have no idea how or if that is working out.

LA County DA To Dismiss Nearly 66K Marijuana Convictions

rec on the ballot here in Jersey but have not seen anything either for or against as far as ads. I doubt that a lot of people even know it's up for vote, doesn't help that it's on the back of the ballot.

https://i.imgur.com/Itwkvag.png

oh here they come and from a police department page of course

significant health risks like the condition doctors refer to as "couch lock"

"consuming most of the snacks you bought for the week in a single day"

actually wouldn't more potent weed actually reduce the health risk? smoke less to get just as high, less carcinogens in your lungs

1. Reasonable point, which is why people shouldn't drive high
2. So by legalizing weed, there will be... more weed?
3. This is a problem?

actually wouldn't more potent weed actually reduce the health risk? smoke less to get just as high, less carcinogens in your lungs

― frogbs, Thursday, October 8, 2020 2:13 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, you can't take less than one hit and still get high. Shit really is insanely powerful now, but I'm not really complaining.

Hash heids

Friend swears that the legal hemp flower being sold now (less than whatever percent of THC, 15-20% CBD) is like microdosing just enough THC to feel pleasant effects if you smoke a couple of bowls.

But apparently it tastes like shit.

I want to know which of the million CBD shops in my area has the secret THC stash for customers in the know

Let me congratulate the state legislature for making Vermont the 11th state in the country to legalize marijuana and also for expunging past marijuana convictions. Now, it is time for Congress and the federal government to end the war on drugs and legalize marijuana nationwide.

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) October 9, 2020

i thought it was already legal there tbh

yeah when i heard the news i was like uhhh it's vermont for god's sake

New Zealand just voted against legalising cannabis by 53.1% to 46.1%

how did the re-vote on legalizing alcohol go?

damn NZ, that's like, literally the first thing i heard about NZ that wasn't cool

Another referendum held at the same time to legalise euthanasia passed 65.2% yes to 33.8% no

NJ most likely going to pass

Seeing reports it should pass in all states voting on it this time around.

I held off on renewing my med card here in AZ with the expectation it'll be fully legalized. Didn't make sense to pay $500 for 2 yr card if it won't be needed in January.

i’m many years clean and sober and i voted ‘yes’ to legalising cannabis in nz so i don’t see why everyone else couldn’t, i’m surprised and annoyed

estela you have a vote in nz?!?!

yes, aotearoa/new zealand is my home country

:) that's so cool! i didn't know

justin3 and i lived in the same house in wellington (but about 20 years apart because i am much older)

haha, i'm always oblivious of these basic details! but that's so cool. and it's impossible for me to imagine what that was like, then, but it warms my heart.

"that's so cool" twice in 20 minutes, lol. this is basically my default opinion when new zealand and cannabis politics collide

...er, except for the vote tonight, sorry.

<3

I drove an hour on rural freeway between two cities in michigan and it gave me flashbacks of college when I would be terrified of getting pulled over with weed in the, but this time there were at least six giant billboards offering MICHIGAN'S FINEST CANNABIS NEXT EXIT and it still feels so surreal to me.