2020 Democratic presidential primary

pretty much the only candidate who felt like he was coming with a bunch of fresh ideas and perspectives

Sanders too old hat for you?

:eyes peering emoji:

My deepest gratitude to you, @JulianCastro, for your tireless efforts to elevate all voices, shed light on the struggles everyday Americans face, and fight for a humane immigration system. I look forward to your continued leadership in the fight to transform our country. https://t.co/tF8zzyH70s

— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 2, 2020

Don't know how Sanders could resist picking a running mate named Castro

i think Biden vs Trump karate would approximate the Dolemite fight scenes

I had dinner with 3 white, west coastm boomer age, gay men last night. They were very into Pete B and Biden and hated Bernie and Warren. I was surprised.

if they each make more than 60 grand a year, i am VERY unsurprised

They are mostly retired. But it was a host of contradictions, like us talking about billionaires being sociopathic hoarders but then someone defending Bezos. And being deserving/entitled to Medicare but not believing in universal healthcare for others.

Don't know how Sanders could resist picking a running mate named Castro

― symsymsym, Thursday, January 2, 2020 1:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

worth it for the trolling alone

i was very bummed to learn that my otherwise super-cool east coast in-law family is also rooting for biden, pete, and bloomberg (they used to work for bloomberg when he was mayor, so at least i can sort of understand that one i guess). what's esp frustrating about their stance is that they say they really want medicare for all, student loan forgiveness, etc etc, but think the most important thing is electability and making sure democrats nominate someone who can beat trump

SIGH

I was bummed that one said if Bernie or Warren was on the ticket he would not vote. But all 5 of us don't have children so we then got a lot nihilistic over our 4th bottle of wine.

not voting for the Democrat is a good way to make it obvious that you don't actually think beating Trump is the most important thing

Class interests tend to supersede pretty much everything else for the majority of people. I think we are repeatedly surprised by this in America because we are so bad at talking about class and so enamored with our myth of a classless society.

But it's also a lot of people being defenders/advocates for classes that are way above their paygrade.

Yeah. People who work for a living, no matter how upper-class of a living, need to be convinced that their class interests lie with the poor. This is possible to do; plenty of rank-and-file Amazon employees voted alongside their poorer neighbors for Kshama Sawant in November here.

I'm certainly not the only pro-Bernie lawyer I know. In fact I'm surprised how often I meet people in my field who are Bernie supporters, they just all tend to be in the 40 and under range.

also infuriating - hearing from the older, well-meaning, biden/pete/bloomberg supporters that they "are rooting for the young people!" and that they support m4a, etc. it's like, one thing you can do to go beyond rooting for young people is to also VOTE with them

if they tell you they support those things and wont even vote for candidates who advance them, they are lying

God knows if I can get this launched before there are another 50 posts here, but I started a new thread: Your next 2020 Democratic presidential primary thread: Now we're serious.

After three years and 15,000 posts, let's open some new digs, ok?