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You mean cilantro is just another name for coriander.

pomenitul, Monday, 30 December 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link

I didn't know this either, although they are used to denote 2 different things in the US, the fresh plant vs the dried spice.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 30 December 2019 02:21 (four years ago) link

Like, on some level beef and cow and steak are the same thing; ditto ham / pork / pig

Yeets don't fail me now (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 30 December 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link

My family always called the fresh plant (which my parents grow in their backyard) "coriander" when I was growing up and didn't use the word "cilantro" but, yeah, I heard about this distinction later on.

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Monday, 30 December 2019 04:46 (four years ago) link

This was with a pick up guitarist from the UK. Amazing player who fit in like he'd played with them for ages.
THink he may have toured UK/Europe with them before. BUt I'm told there is a more permanent New York line up of the band and I think the other 3 were from that. Don't think you'd notice without being told as in who would and wouldn't be full time.


Was hoping to get to that gig myself but it was the office christmas party. Wrong decision in retrospect.

Alex Ward plays with TFLs in Europe and also on other Weasel Walter side projects. Strongly recommend the album they and James Sedwards out of Nøught put together under the name Power Trips - Deadly Orgone Radiation.

Fizzles, Monday, 30 December 2019 07:01 (four years ago) link

I need to check out his bandcamp page. Should have rechecked my notebook before leaving him nameless in that comment.
He really was quite phenomenal.
Need to get some more stuff by this lot and him of he's got anything on cd.

Stevolende, Monday, 30 December 2019 08:48 (four years ago) link

https://alexward.bandcamp.com/

Stevolende, Monday, 30 December 2019 10:57 (four years ago) link

Both dried and fresh are called coriander in the UK

Alba, Monday, 30 December 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link

Me and my wife found out about the coriander/cilantro thing the hard way a couple of years ago. She's from Costa Rica, where fresh culantro is an essential part of the cuisine, whereas I'd never really used it here in Finland. So when she moved here, at first she was shocked that the local supermarkets didn't seem to sell culantro at all, until a couple of months later she discovered it's called korianteri here.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 December 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

The stems and leaves of a coriander plant are called cilantro in the US; the root of a celery plant is called celeriac in the UK. In a better timeline, the root of a coriander plant is called coriandriac, the stems and leaves of a celery plant is called celeriantro

kelis navidad (flamboyant goon tie included), Monday, 30 December 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

I think I saw the first home electric car charger on the street yesterday as opposed to a standing charger that you need to park next to.
Hadn't really thought about how people do this more conveniently. I think there have been few electric cars around Galway so there wasn't much competition. Don't know how long you would need to park at one to charge either.
But it presumably must be quite a drain on the home supply. I guess it compensates for having to pay a separate petrol fee but still presumably mustard a lot to the bill.
& does mean you have to park directly outside your own house which isn't always easy. Also here the lead was on the ground across the pavement so hoping that nobody trips over it.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 08:42 (four years ago) link

never mind all this end of the decade stuff, i just figured out that some people reading this today will be alive in the 22nd Century and it's freaking me out

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 11:40 (four years ago) link

You're freaking out, how do you think I feel about living to be 175 years old

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

how anchors work.

i suddenly thought "if they are basically barbs stuck in the sea-bottom, how do you dettach them?" but it's basically the weight and friction of the chain more than anything and this and the barbs are less effective when pulled from directly above

koogs, Tuesday, 31 December 2019 17:31 (four years ago) link

Re cilantro/coriander in the US: I believe the difference isn't really fresh vs dried, but rather leaves vs seeds?

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 2 January 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link

'One Night in Bangkok' was written for a musical entitled Chess by Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyricist and half of ABBA.

Sometimes I think I know things but then it turns out I don't know anything at all.

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Thursday, 2 January 2020 13:36 (four years ago) link

Why... why did you think there was such an immense focus on playing chess in that song?

pplains, Friday, 3 January 2020 04:24 (four years ago) link

the great Chess Resurgence of 1985, obviously

I couldn't go down the street as a young lad without some ruffian sizing me up and challenging me to a little black and white. i wasn't allowed to pass on my way to school until the words "checkmate" were uttered by someone.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 January 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link

I like how the first two minutes, the instrumental that usually gets cut to a ten-second intro is technically its own song. Much like "Foreplay/Long Time" or "Sirius/Eye in the Sky", that Murray Head song is "Bangkok/One Night in Bangkok".

pplains, Friday, 3 January 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link

Me and my wife found out about the coriander/cilantro thing the hard way a couple of years ago. She's from Costa Rica, where fresh culantro is an essential part of the cuisine, whereas I'd never really used it here in Finland. So when she moved here, at first she was shocked that the local supermarkets didn't seem to sell culantro at all, until a couple of months later she discovered it's called korianteri here.

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To make things more confusing, cilantro is different from culantro.

jaymc, Friday, 3 January 2020 04:54 (four years ago) link

initially read that as cuntlantro. time to sleep.

looking for Mon in Alderaan places (Neanderthal), Friday, 3 January 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link

the root of a celery plant is called celeriac in the UK

the same plant? or are they different cultivars?

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 3 January 2020 08:46 (four years ago) link

The latter - nothing is called both.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 January 2020 08:59 (four years ago) link

thanking jaymc for explaining that!

I realize now I've had culantro and found it tasty but didn't realize what it was.

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link

so:

coriander is korianteri is cilantro

coriander powder is used in some cooking, but if used dried it's usually the seeds (in my apparently limited experience)

fresh cilantro leaves are used as garnish and for flavor in lots of cooking I enjoy. I also found out via a couple recipes I've prepared that the stalks can be part of a curry paste

babu frik fan account (mh), Friday, 3 January 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link

the stalks have flavor. I throw them in if I want a lil crunch.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 January 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Lidl sells coriander as a grow your own plant. Or at least keep it going since its sold as a mature plant.

Stevolende, Friday, 3 January 2020 17:27 (four years ago) link

ime those plants do not thrive outdoors in the ground. they are weakling latte-sippers afaict

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 January 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

all that coriander discussion makes me dizzy. one thing i never understood. why do people eat it? am i the only one who thinks that all food seasoned with coriander - esp. the fresh green leaves which look like parsley - is uneatable. Or would you ever season your dish with soap as that is exactly the taste of coriander for me.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

There is a genetic reason why a minority of people taste it that way:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.britannica.com/amp/story/why-does-cilantro-taste-like-soap-to-some-people

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

(Love it myself)

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

These people have a variation in a group of olfactory-receptor genes that allows them to strongly perceive the soapy-flavored aldehydes in cilantro leaves.

thanks, so i didn't imagine it!

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

Nope you’re just a mutant

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

was wondering how long it'd take before that came up

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

I feel bad for people who don't enjoy coriander

Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

Man, I call such B.S. on the whole genetic-basis for hating cilantro thing. I know it's a neat piece of internet wisdom to share that some people can smell/taste aldehydes and therefore think that the herb tastes bad, but as a verified OR6A2-receptor-haver, I think cilantro tastes kinda weird and soapy AND it also tastes great. Human taste is a big complex multi-variant thing, not an on/off switch, and the 'genetic basis' reduction drives me banananas. Genetics play a factor, sure, but they're hardly deterministic. It's the 'I like all music but country and rap' argument in food form. Also, FWIW I also love most other aldehyde-heavy foods like vanilla and cinnamon and miso and sauerkraut. But nobody ever says 'I have a genetic basis for disliking cinnamon.'

rb (soda), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

Ftr, I said, or at least meant, that there is a genetic basis for tasting coriander as soapy, not for disliking it.

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

I wasn't meaning to have a go at anybody in particular. I just hear this argument a lot (I cook mostly S.E. Asian and Colombian food and host a lot of dinners).

rb (soda), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:22 (four years ago) link

doesn't taste soapy to me at all. I put a shit ton of it on tacos & tuna melts. my favorite herb.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:23 (four years ago) link

No, not for me either.

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

Nope you’re just a mutant

maybe but apparently with a quite refined taste...

I think cilantro tastes kinda weird and soapy AND it also tastes great

that was actually the question i asked myself. can it be that your taste is "finished" quite early and things you taste later on have a difficult stand to enter into your "smellset"? i have known the taste of soap from very early on but the first time i tasted cilandro was not before 20 i think. and then i had that bad association.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 January 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

Did you swear a lot as a child, Alex?

nickn, Friday, 3 January 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

i get the soapiness from cilantro/coriander, but i am a big fan. i did eat it often as a child though, primarily in the form of the chilean condiment pebre (basically just pico de gallo)

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:02 (four years ago) link

because the tropical fruits i discovered late like papaya, mango (still my fave of these), lychee and especially khaki are not really my cup of tea.

walking towards the sun since 2007 (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

This just hit me the other morning when I was waking up. They commonly sell commercially packaged coffee in awkward weights 2.2 lbs and 12 oz. because 2.2 = 1 kg and 12 oz of coffee lasts a lot of people a little over a week.

We buy a big bushel of fresh cilantro every week because we use it for almost everything (always use the stems) and zhoug sauce!

Yerac, Friday, 3 January 2020 22:26 (four years ago) link

Zhoug is amazing

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:28 (four years ago) link

Ha, so much stuff seems to come in 454 g packages in Canada.

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

a pound!

Yerac, Friday, 3 January 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

Yep

Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 22:34 (four years ago) link


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