Things you were shockingly old when you learned

I found this out a few years ago, and mentioned it briefly upthread, but I spent years visiting Holland feeling pleasantly delighted that the Dutch language appeared to be some kind of clown hybrid of English and German: zeewolf! vleermuis! bakkerij! I found the "ij" suffix particularly amusing, even if I knew it was an "ee" my mind couldn't but read it as an "idge". schoenmakerij! brouwerij!

Then, one day I was walking in Amsterdam and I passed by a bakery where the signage plonked the 'i' and the 'j' rather close together in the kerning so that they were effectively joined together. The result was a 'ÿ'. Ah, now I get it, I thought.

https://puurtamminga.nl/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/TAM-banners-2017-BlijIJsje.jpg

http://www.brouwerijhetij.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/brouwerijtij_ijwit_001.jpg

http://www.brouwerijhetij.nl/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/brouwerijtij_ijwit_001.jpg

teh origineel

Before "mayflies" disappears from view altogether, that Wikipedia article includes the following:

Adult mayflies, or imagos, are relatively primitive in structure...

I was worried my true intentions upon posting that link would forever languish in oblivion.

specific mayfly such as imago

Richard Wilbur, Mayflies

In somber forest, when the sun was low,
I saw from unseen pools a mist of flies,
In their quadrillions rise,
And animate a ragged patch of glow,
With sudden glittering –as when a crowd,
Of stars appear,
Through a brief gap in black and driven cloud,
One arc of their great round-dance showing clear.

It was no muddled swarm I witnessed, for
In entrechats each fluttering insect there
Rose two steep yards in air,
Then slowly floated down to climb once more,
So that they all composed a manifold
And figured scene,
And seemed the weavers of some cloth of gold,
Or the fine pistons of some bright machine.

Watching those lifelong dancers of a day
As night closed in, I felt myself alone
In a life too much my own,
More mortal in my separateness than they–
Unless, I thought, I had been called to be
Not fly or star
But one whose task is joyfully to see
How fair the fiats of the caller are.

Key lime pie is from the Florida keys???

lol

Wait til u hear where Crab Louie comes from

Upon googling it I came across a couple of occurrences in local Cleveland papers so maybe it's a Midwest thing?

as a native Clevelander I would be happy to go on at length about these little bastards

Key lime pie is from the Florida keys???

The Key lime is the queen.

When the Key lime dies, the other limes find new colonies

fgti’s comment about Dutch otm and just helped me with the spelling in one of the language learning apps. Weird that there are some Dutch words that are exactly the same as the English word, such as “water,” and then there are some words that have enough of an alien feel that they get repurposed for sf use, such as “baan.”

This is probably already on here

Coriander is just another name for cilantro

You mean cilantro is just another name for coriander.

I didn't know this either, although they are used to denote 2 different things in the US, the fresh plant vs the dried spice.

Like, on some level beef and cow and steak are the same thing; ditto ham / pork / pig

My family always called the fresh plant (which my parents grow in their backyard) "coriander" when I was growing up and didn't use the word "cilantro" but, yeah, I heard about this distinction later on.

This was with a pick up guitarist from the UK. Amazing player who fit in like he'd played with them for ages.
THink he may have toured UK/Europe with them before. BUt I'm told there is a more permanent New York line up of the band and I think the other 3 were from that. Don't think you'd notice without being told as in who would and wouldn't be full time.

I need to check out his bandcamp page. Should have rechecked my notebook before leaving him nameless in that comment.
He really was quite phenomenal.
Need to get some more stuff by this lot and him of he's got anything on cd.

https://alexward.bandcamp.com/

Both dried and fresh are called coriander in the UK

Me and my wife found out about the coriander/cilantro thing the hard way a couple of years ago. She's from Costa Rica, where fresh culantro is an essential part of the cuisine, whereas I'd never really used it here in Finland. So when she moved here, at first she was shocked that the local supermarkets didn't seem to sell culantro at all, until a couple of months later she discovered it's called korianteri here.

The stems and leaves of a coriander plant are called cilantro in the US; the root of a celery plant is called celeriac in the UK. In a better timeline, the root of a coriander plant is called coriandriac, the stems and leaves of a celery plant is called celeriantro

https://pics.me.me/neapolitan-neaneanea-polipolipoli-tantantan-neapolipoli-neaneapoli-politantan-polipolitan-neatantan-neaneatan-46428753.png

I think I saw the first home electric car charger on the street yesterday as opposed to a standing charger that you need to park next to.
Hadn't really thought about how people do this more conveniently. I think there have been few electric cars around Galway so there wasn't much competition. Don't know how long you would need to park at one to charge either.
But it presumably must be quite a drain on the home supply. I guess it compensates for having to pay a separate petrol fee but still presumably mustard a lot to the bill.
& does mean you have to park directly outside your own house which isn't always easy. Also here the lead was on the ground across the pavement so hoping that nobody trips over it.

never mind all this end of the decade stuff, i just figured out that some people reading this today will be alive in the 22nd Century and it's freaking me out

You're freaking out, how do you think I feel about living to be 175 years old

how anchors work.

i suddenly thought "if they are basically barbs stuck in the sea-bottom, how do you dettach them?" but it's basically the weight and friction of the chain more than anything and this and the barbs are less effective when pulled from directly above

Re cilantro/coriander in the US: I believe the difference isn't really fresh vs dried, but rather leaves vs seeds?

'One Night in Bangkok' was written for a musical entitled Chess by Andrew Lloyd Webber's lyricist and half of ABBA.

Sometimes I think I know things but then it turns out I don't know anything at all.

Why... why did you think there was such an immense focus on playing chess in that song?

the great Chess Resurgence of 1985, obviously

I couldn't go down the street as a young lad without some ruffian sizing me up and challenging me to a little black and white. i wasn't allowed to pass on my way to school until the words "checkmate" were uttered by someone.

I like how the first two minutes, the instrumental that usually gets cut to a ten-second intro is technically its own song. Much like "Foreplay/Long Time" or "Sirius/Eye in the Sky", that Murray Head song is "Bangkok/One Night in Bangkok".

Me and my wife found out about the coriander/cilantro thing the hard way a couple of years ago. She's from Costa Rica, where fresh culantro is an essential part of the cuisine, whereas I'd never really used it here in Finland. So when she moved here, at first she was shocked that the local supermarkets didn't seem to sell culantro at all, until a couple of months later she discovered it's called korianteri here.

― Tuomas, Monday, December 30, 2019 8:16 AM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

To make things more confusing, cilantro is different from culantro.

initially read that as cuntlantro. time to sleep.

the root of a celery plant is called celeriac in the UK

the same plant? or are they different cultivars?

The latter - nothing is called both.

thanking jaymc for explaining that!

I realize now I've had culantro and found it tasty but didn't realize what it was.

so:

coriander is korianteri is cilantro

coriander powder is used in some cooking, but if used dried it's usually the seeds (in my apparently limited experience)

fresh cilantro leaves are used as garnish and for flavor in lots of cooking I enjoy. I also found out via a couple recipes I've prepared that the stalks can be part of a curry paste

the stalks have flavor. I throw them in if I want a lil crunch.

Lidl sells coriander as a grow your own plant. Or at least keep it going since its sold as a mature plant.

ime those plants do not thrive outdoors in the ground. they are weakling latte-sippers afaict

all that coriander discussion makes me dizzy. one thing i never understood. why do people eat it? am i the only one who thinks that all food seasoned with coriander - esp. the fresh green leaves which look like parsley - is uneatable. Or would you ever season your dish with soap as that is exactly the taste of coriander for me.

There is a genetic reason why a minority of people taste it that way:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.britannica.com/amp/story/why-does-cilantro-taste-like-soap-to-some-people

(Love it myself)

These people have a variation in a group of olfactory-receptor genes that allows them to strongly perceive the soapy-flavored aldehydes in cilantro leaves.

thanks, so i didn't imagine it!