THE IRISHMAN, A Martin Scorsese Picture with de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, Keitel

Rank and File is pretty anti-union, though.

yeah that was made when unions still had sway in the UK. He probably wouldn't be so harsh now they've decimated to next to nothing!

Oh sure, Sorry We Missed You is steeped in union nostalgia.

Reading back on it, I was trying to agree with you. Even Ken Loach has made anti-union films, and still he isn't an anti-union person. Although he might be more anti-union than Scorsese? More revolutionary by nature. Although he has really kept it hidden quite well since, like, 1990.

five million ways to paint a ceo

Lol

I got in a car accident to that song once (not at fault)

are you by any chance a CEO

This was a comment posted by a daft friend of mine to me about The Irishman. Probably the most inept and useless one line review ever!

"Finished. Enjoyed the ugliness and the bad clothes but felt like goodfellas meets ken loach. Waste of my time."

Providing multi-year employment to hundreds of union workers to make an anti-union film. Oh, the irony.

I disagree with his take that this movie is anti-union. I thought the Teamsters' pension fund was the precious resource that was being contested and Hoffa's obstinance to let the mob take more was his ultimate undoing. That the mob stole from this big pool of money by corrupting people with access doesn't make the union any more corrupt than a company that's being embezzled from, or a government agency that someone is selling classified documents from.

This was a comment posted by a daft friend of mine to me about The Irishman. Probably the most inept and useless one line review ever!

"Finished. Enjoyed the ugliness and the bad clothes but felt like goodfellas meets ken loach. Waste of my time."

reading a stance on "unions" from this movie is as silly to me as imagining psycho has a stance on secretaries stealing from real estate offices

The Irishman is anti union - in particular the Screen Actors Guild. The film uses technology to avoid multi-casting roles over 50 years, costing actors jobs.

— “Brian” (@BrianJWooster) December 27, 2019

OEO otm

cosign

Second viewing, again at MoMA… if anything liked a bit more. Pacino's accent is good enough. The complaints about "de Niro moved like an oldster" are mostly gtfo.

Also an actor I used to do improv jams with in a rehearsal studio 30 years ago is credited as Hoffa Rally Teamster #1 … missed him though.

Quintessential MoMA filmgoer exiting: "Who was the Irishman?"

we are all the irishman

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The complaints about "de Niro moved like an oldster" are mostly gtfo.

Mostly it's fine but the hand stamping bit was terrible.

didn’t understand why they could have deep faked some stunt double to do that scene. it’s the first thing people mention when the film comes up.

Super impose DeNiro's head on Conor McGregor

Oh my god I have almost an hour left in this thing.

What she said

He’s dead and there’s still almost 45 minutes in the movie.

the last 45 minutes are what it’s about

honestly i loved how long this was, feature not a flaw. it’s a life, a mess of incident

Ill probably do a straight through run tomorrow. Overdue for second watch.

I’m reserving judgment but jeez louise

It's what it is

its lead actors are, on average, older than the old people in “Cocoon,” a movie in which you definitely didn’t see Wilford Brimley curb-stomp anyone.

Well, nice of De Niro to show up for the end of the movie

Anyway this was worth it for the extended silliness about the fish in the car.

heart of the film

The last half hour = Ozu with shag rugs

For all my love of crime films across various subgenres this movie made me really loathe actual mobsters.

i liked this much more than I expected to. CGI not very distracting.

this was worth it for the extended silliness about the fish in the car.

We've established that Hoffa is the fish.

Can't believe I failed to recognize celebrated NYC idiot Bo Dietl the first time.

"I dunno, A FISH"

For all my love of crime films across various subgenres this movie made me really loathe actual mobsters.

Ozu is just about the only music cue he doesn't use

Watched it again for the second time early this morning (was up, found myself watching it on volume using headphones, which I actually kinda recommend). Having first seen it in the theater I was surprised in a good way that I felt I only had to take a brief break once, it flows steadily and effortlessly. Thing that stood out for me, and again, headphone listening may have helped, was the silence that predominated. Not emptiness, but the lack of music and dialogue at many key points, not to mention how relentlessly nonflashy the sounds of violence were. Gunshots pop rather than explode, the actual explosions always seemed understated.

that makes me want to see it a little more, I have been reluctant

I think a big reason that this was criticized as a rehash of old Scorsese movies is because of a misreading of those tonal choices Ned notes...as if it’s trying to be Goodfellas and failing rather than exploring an altogether different tonality.

I never thought for a second that The Irishman was trying to be Goodfellas. I'd be more inclined to say that those who heap praise on it mistake caution and somberness for wisdom...but I try not read into people's likes and dislikes like I used to as matter of habit.

Yea it's not Goodfellas redux at all

The somber tone is not 'wise' … it's what it is.

New Marty interview in the Sunday Times today; embracing death's inevitability is his chief talking point.

so my wife just casually noted that she was one of the models used to sell the de-ageing effects, nbd

I hear your wife paints houses.

she doesnt even dust shelves man

i was the fish