I Really Dislike Frank Sinatra: How alone am I?

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I’m sure there must be some good takedowns of Frankie to be found in old newspapers with older critics going “this kid’s ok but he’s clearly no Caruso”.

I once a photo of Sinatra rehearsing in an old Life magazine (not sure of the date, but it was from when Sinatra first got big, so probably some time in the '40s) that's captioned with a comment about his "caterwauling that occasionally resembles a song".

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link

my grandparents both sang opera and thought Frank was trash

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

Ok boomer

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 24 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

tbf, Frank's take on Aida didn't work, not least because he kept interjecting "Jack!" for emphasis after every third or fourth line.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

I have been convinced by the sterling work on this thread and have decided I was wrong about Frank Sinatra all along and won't be listening to him again.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

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Can’t sing. Can’t act. Balding. Can dance a little. Can’t scat. Not a jazz singer.

The Soundtrack of Burl Ives (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 27 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

Got volume 1 of the bio mentioned upthread out of the library. It’s great, albeit lurid in places.

Οὖτις, Friday, 27 December 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

Producer Stephen Lipson is interviewed on The Hustle podcast and at 1:21:12 tells an amazing story about going to see a latter days Sinatra gig where Frank is so out-of-it the the orchestra has to contort itself (play silent in the loud bits because Frank doesn't know where the mic is) before collapsing in the middle of "My Way" before staggering up again like an aged punch drunk boxer who can't stop.

https://thehustle.podbean.com/e/episode-401-stephen-lipson/

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 27 May 2023 23:46 (ten months ago) link

tbf, Frank's take on Aida didn't work, not least because he kept interjecting "Jack!" for emphasis after every third or fourth line.

You got to use that "jack" sparingly, otherwise it loses its power. Exhibit A:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IHiBewYetI

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 May 2023 03:57 (ten months ago) link

(Surprisingly, the riff in "Smoke on the Water" adapts naturally into horn charts straight out of the big band era.)

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 May 2023 04:02 (ten months ago) link

"some day you will pay the tab I know"

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Sunday, 28 May 2023 08:18 (ten months ago) link

Gonna have to get one of those five album cd sets, you know, the cheapie ones.

I do see capitol LPs in the charity shops, low price. I do end up wondering 'is that one of the good ones, or?'

Mark G, Sunday, 28 May 2023 09:23 (ten months ago) link

I scored a new sealed copy of Only The Lonely from a charity shop for 1 euro a couple of weeks back. I'm really into hearing it but my player isn't. So stopped halfway through. Bummer.Had distorted it before that.
I mean fuzz guitar on The World We Knew is one thing, distorting this classic is just blasphemy surely.

Stevo, Sunday, 28 May 2023 09:36 (ten months ago) link

The first Capitol CD's (from 1987 and 1991) are cheap and easy way of getting those albums in decent quality. (The remasters issued in 1998/2001 are notoriously awful, some of the worst examples of "remastering" by a major label.)

Also, Sinatra was apparently a good sport about Piscopo's parody - I wasn't sure if he would be because sometimes he doesn't take a joke too well. Brad Garrett opened for him for a while and at the end of one good set, he told the audience, "thank you, and please stay for Mr. Sinatra." The next day, Sinatra's manager called him in and said "Frank wants to know what you meant by that." And Garrett was like "it was a joke! Of COURSE they're going to stay for Frank, they're here for him, not for me." The manager was like "oh yeah sure....Frank doesn't want you to say that anymore."

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 May 2023 14:57 (ten months ago) link

Great Lipson interview - they're all chock full of great anecdotes - but that podcast host is the worse kind of blabbering fanboy.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Sunday, 28 May 2023 15:26 (ten months ago) link

I remember Piscopo saying that his Sinatra impression came from a place of respect, whereas he criticized Phil Hartman’s Sinatra for being mean-spirited and “disrespectful to Mr. Sinatra.” I always thought Hartman’s was funnier. Not by a lot, but he went places Piscopo wouldn’t touch.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 28 May 2023 18:28 (ten months ago) link

The sketch of the Duets recording sessions with Adam Sandler as Bono was probably the only worthwhile thing to come out of that album.

birdistheword, Sunday, 28 May 2023 22:24 (ten months ago) link

Sorry, but this thread makes me imagine…

How Alone Am I? (Capitol, 1959; Arranged and Conducted by Hurting, assisted by Gordon Jenkins)

Josefa, Sunday, 28 May 2023 22:46 (ten months ago) link


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