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theres nothing that will motivate players more than the prospect of another guy trying to take their job

The NBA continues to discuss draft compensation, potentially in the form of an extra first-round pick, as a reward for the winning team in the proposed in-season tournament for the 2021-22 season, sources tell @NYTSports

— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) December 24, 2019

it’s such a dumb idea all around

i hate it

its like when mlb decided to give world series home field to the winner of the freakin allstar game

"too many regular season games, which will be addressed by adding more games"

"we'll dig our way out!" "dig up, stupid"

So Dumb. What will teams that are in the tax going out do, tank the tournament because they don't want the pick ? Or teams trying to build cap room ? Be forced to trade it ? Draft and stash ? https://t.co/laxHWd9YMy

— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) December 24, 2019

if theyre really gonna do it just give the winners of the tourney a million each and call it a day

end of the bench guys wld be rooting so hard lol

tourney is only for players who avg < 20mpg

this is the dumbest idea, like really who wants this

listen what if they give every winner $1m, refs swallow their whistles so it gets super physical, and theyve got live mics on the players who are encouraged to talk shit

oh and what about if the teams are different 8 teams total sort of an allstar+ type scenario

have captains who do a draft

Tallest v Shortest

im obsessed w my gritty allstar tourney now sorry in advance everyone

mb it shd be streetball...........

congratulations to lagoon who just invented the all star game

problem is none of the all stars care about a million bucks and probably do not want to play another x amount of games

I think it’d be best if we just forgot this idea got floated

congratulations to lagoon who just invented the all star game

― k3vin k., Tuesday, December 24, 2019 6:17 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

cld be the new allstar weekend get rid of everything else besides dunk and 3pt contests

lol xp wld be so much better thooooo

Winning team gets marijuana excluded from their drug testing AND an extra first round pick

First pick of this system gets nicknamed “big edible”

imo supermax contracts should be negotiated outside of the cba

the current cba is fine for the average player, but player contracts are open to abuse by the biggest stars because owners are unable or unwilling to enforce penalties for trade demands or other contract breaches. it is bad for parties to become accustomed to operating outside of the cba as it encourages uncle dennising and like behaviours.

imo a new form of contract should be available to a limited number of players which allows for much higher pay, better reflecting the true value of a lebron or other superstar. in return for the increased compensation the player would accept more risk eg the majority of the contract being contingent on performance criteria.

eliminate max contracts

max every contract
(tj) ford every stream

It seems to me the obvious problem is that they give max contracts to players like Andrew Wiggins, almost as a matter of course. This reduces the value of the max deals.

Maybe something similar to the nfl’s franchise tag would be better.

the franchise tag is awful for players, absolutely one of the worst mechanisms in existence.

as long as the NBA has a salary cap (and it always will) the lebrons and kawhis and stephs will never be properly paid or valued. wiggins was actually prob fairly paid/valued on his max deal, the problem is that a bunch of other guys on the max are way better than him and underpaid. in some free market uncapped scenario i bet wiggins would still be making roughly what he is now, but it wouldn't look as insane bcuz lebron would be making $50 million per year or whatever

what's interesting to me is that the CBA has not been able to accurately predict or account for shifts in player priorities. the owners really fucked up in the last negotiations... they implemented all these crazy rules to prevent player movement and they've all backfired. it turns out that being able to offer your best player $200 million a year before any other team doesn't mean that the guy is just going to say "ok :)" and then he's on your team for life... and if he does say yes your reward is an albatross contract that can sink your franchise with one bad injury.

i don't see a way for the brons or kawhis to ever be properly valued... their importance is just far too skewed, and ultimately capping their salaries allows money to flow to other players in the league, which can be bad for teams when they spend money on bad players but is good for the players. i think a good fix would be implementing some sort of permanent amnesty clause that you can use once every x number of years so that what's happening w/ the wizards basically is a bit more preventable.

also exceeding the salary cap for certain players has been built into the CBA for a while now, i feel like they could institute some sort of 1 use-only mega max that is capped at i.e. $25 million or w/e for cap purposes but above that the team can pay the player whatever amount of money they want.

the other big problem is that the contracts that are coming closest to properly paying the best guys are doing so on the downslope of their career. it's silly to me that various versions of the max contract (25%, 35%, etc.) are tied to service time.

Yah that big max should be available on those early prime years

as long as the NBA has a salary cap (and it always will) the lebrons and kawhis and stephs will never be properly paid or valued. wiggins was actually prob fairly paid/valued on his max deal, the problem is that a bunch of other guys on the max are way better than him and underpaid. in some free market uncapped scenario i bet wiggins would still be making roughly what he is now, but it wouldn't look as insane bcuz lebron would be making $50 million per year or whatever

The league has a policy of paying top 5 picks the max if they don’t completely shit the bed in their first 4 years and that doesn’t make sense.

They get in situations where sunk costs and the costs of changing directions of the team add up to paying Jamal Murray the max for being the leagues 14th best shooting guard

those guys get the 25% max which is nowhere near as destructive as the contract chris paul is on.

the other big problem is that the contracts that are coming closest to properly paying the best guys are doing so on the downslope of their career. it's silly to me that various versions of the max contract (25%, 35%, etc.) are tied to service time.

― call all destroyer, Sunday, January 5, 2020 8:10 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this is terrible. all these guys that are gonna be making $50M a year when they're 36 is fucked.

iirc this was driven by cp3 who led the players association to negotiate a cba that happened to largely benefit himself

it benefitted him and his class of player. vets who are involved in the players association aren't going to pay themselves less.

cp3 is gangster, role players are fools for not getting a bigger slice of the pie

it cld def use tweaking but i like generally how the nba contract situation works FWIW they set out to thread the needle between parity, teams retaining stars, and player freedom of movement which is the correct view and they kinda pulled it off imho its a good balance, and it has a high drama factor which is good

def prefer it to the hard capping of the nfl or the tax disincentives of mlb, the open market of soccer is by far the worst tho

one thing soccer has tho is promotion and relegation which is prob the best mechanism in all of sport m8

nba relegation would be amazing

they shd work towards incorporating the g league in this scenario (will never happen but in a better universe would)

nba w 20 teams plus a bunch more trying to claw their way in wld be so tite

i would be elated if a ridiculous regional g league team somehow scraped their way into the league a la the red claws stockton kings or whatever

would be interesting to see what the distribution of salaries as a percentage of the cap has looked like over time. maybe there have been times when there were lots of middle-sized contracts or times when a lot of money was going to the biggest contracts.

it cld def use tweaking but i like generally how the nba contract situation works FWIW they set out to thread the needle between parity, teams retaining stars, and player freedom of movement which is the correct view and they kinda pulled it off imho its a good balance, and it has a high drama factor which is good

― lag∞n, Monday, January 6, 2020 12:09 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

mostly agree with this! i think the weird soft cap and associated rules add a lot of intrigue.