he's beeeeeen from jump. he's laid off bernie and liz and come after beto, buttigieg, biden. it's a really canny political pivot bc he could've just as easily gone establishment dem given his background, but once sanders and warren are retired/dead, he's still young enough that he can claim progressive bona fides in future presidential races and/or be a credible vp candidate with one of those two.
― peloton for the painfully alone (m bison), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link
Something interesting I didn’t know for the last day of Channukah: https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3224239/jewish/Some-More-Info-on-Bernie-Sanders-and-Judaism-blog.htm
― Mordy, Monday, 30 December 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
There’s a video of him lighting with Chabad last night of fb that if I can figure out how to link I’ll post later
― Mordy, Monday, 30 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
hopefully this works
https://www.facebook.com/100024757552869/videos/578299316338648/
― Mordy, Monday, 30 December 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
more video here including bernie addressing the crowd briefly
Bernie Sanders is here to light a menorah at a “Chanukah on Ice” event at Des Moines ice rink. It’s been scheduled a while, but it’s less than 24 hours after an intruder stabbed 5 at a rabbi's home in the NYC suburb of Monsey during a Hanukkah celebration late Saturday night. pic.twitter.com/atEe4QpAjC— Jennifer Jacobs (@JenniferJJacobs) December 30, 2019
― Mordy, Monday, 30 December 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
Over the past few years, Bernie Sanders supporters have called me the following names: pic.twitter.com/UYiQ2SBf2f— Jeremy Fassler (@J_fassler) January 2, 2020
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link
relevant
― ingredience (map), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
hahahha
― k3vin k., Friday, 3 January 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link
I don't know who that is but lol at expecting outrage towards a candidate because his supporters called you "dumb" or "hack" on Twitter.
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link
The vile Berners who are replying to this tweet with further harassment are proof that his supporters care more about "owning" their "enemies" than helping the causes Sanders cares about. At this point, there is little difference between them and MAGA idiots.— Jeremy Fassler (@J_fassler) January 2, 2020
― The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 January 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link
jeremy fassler is leaving a voicemail with the manager
― ingredience (map), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:05 (four years ago) link
Fassler rightly notes that supporters of Amy Klochubar have not indulged in such ugly rhetoric against him.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 3 January 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link
they're more about throwing chairs
― ciderpress, Friday, 3 January 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link
Guys, just stop this. You're not helping anyone by making fun of a rando who is angry at being called a 'cunt' or a 'piece of shit'
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 08:57 (four years ago) link
Things are certainly taking a darker turn but I don't see how we can force better standards of online discourse. We have seen on this very board just how far people can go with their words. At this point, one wonders what the end game is
― anvil, Friday, 3 January 2020 09:20 (four years ago) link
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 bookmarkflaglink
Yes let him be with his terrible opinions.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link
Been a minute since we had some good Fred pearl clutching.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 3 January 2020 10:27 (four years ago) link
Guys, come on now
― anvil, Friday, 3 January 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link
There are people out there being called bedbugs (and probably worse). You can joke about it all you like, but for many its creating a climate of fear. Laugh today, but it could be you tomorrow
― anvil, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link
It's just unproductive. Being an asshole actually isn't a part of the intersectional class struggle, y'know.
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
And yeah, comrade alphabet is a great example of what not to do. Don't end up like the corbynists.
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:27 (four years ago) link
Guys, come on now.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link
what an absolute blooming wally cunt Fred is!
― calzino, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link
Supporting coups across Latin America, but doing so politely.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:37 (four years ago) link
No matter how much you say it, still just a lie.
Again. A prime example of not how to be. Anyone thinking this sort of behaviour is not a drag on any movement is simply too partisan. You can't transform the country with people like that, no matter how militant they are on social media.
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:45 (four years ago) link
Transforming the country, one social media post at a time.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link
Fred, I think the deal is that he makes no distinction between things that might be actually demeaning or abusive; things like "centrist hack", "hacky writer", and "gossip columnist", which are totally fair game for someone who writes professionally about politics (you could surely find worse in Pitchfork reviews); and things that are just goofy like "walking jar of mayonnaise". He also provides no context for, or frankly, evidence of any of this, other than the very general statement that they are things that 'Bernie Sanders supporters' have 'called him' over the past few years. (As someone asked, was he writing each insult down in a notepad app as it came in or did he comb through all his last few years of Twitter interactions - if the latter, surely, we could see the receipts?) Since he is not just some rando but a paid political writer with a decided agenda, you might see why we're a little hesitant to open our hearts regarding a public declaration like this.
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link
That said, maybe he actually has been treated appallingly by a mob of Berniebros and is just very bad at expressing it? Tbh, a scan of his Twitter feed and some of his writing mostly seems totally anodyne so idk why it might have happened.
― Un sang impur (Sund4r), Friday, 3 January 2020 12:31 (four years ago) link
The problem is once online mobs of BernieBros feel emboldened in this way it is only a matter of time before they take their threats off of twitter and into the physical domain. This has happened in the UK where Momentum Thugs have gone unchallenged for years and have graduated from online threats into shouting and pushing, recently shutting down a hospital and forcing a journalist to flee, lucky to escape only with a fractured rib from a fall.
― anvil, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:45 (four years ago) link
He is probably stupid, but so what? That's not really important. Some of the stuff he has received is shitty, and laughing at people because the way they complain about being attacked is less than perfect, is nagl. Just ignore him. Nothing constructive can come from this.
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:53 (four years ago) link
Agreed, I have stopped laughing now. There has to be a limit
― anvil, Friday, 3 January 2020 12:56 (four years ago) link
i really love to call dumbasses dumbasses, is my praxis bad
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link
Poll options:
"Since he is not just some rando but a paid political writer with a decided agenda" Vs "He is probably stupid, but so what? That's not really important."
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 13:24 (four years ago) link
Politeness is fucking entitlement Fred, sometimes unproductive rage comes from a place of powerless despair
― Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link
And sometimes it comes from being an asshole
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link
And nobody is asking for politeness. Not shouting 'cunt' at Twitter randos has nothing to do with politeness
― Frederik B, Friday, 3 January 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link
so anyway
I was right about Vietnam.I was right about Iraq.I will do everything in my power to prevent a war with Iran.I apologize to no one. pic.twitter.com/Lna3oBZMKB— Bernie Sanders (@SenSanders) January 3, 2020
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link
It's 2020, everybody is a "Twitter rando". I don't understand why you're on the side of entitlement.
― Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link
He is not a rando either.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Like maybe people being mean to defenders of the status quo aren't the real enemy?
― Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 January 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
i don't think bernie supporters are notably more "toxic" than supporters of other candidates. this is just an idea that's been promoted to discredit the candidate.
― treeship., Friday, 3 January 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
and the guy who claimed there is "little difference" between bernie supporters and trump supporters is, respectfully, a vile liar.
there is no comparison between the candidates or between the movements they represent. it's insulting to people suffering under trump to pretent otherwise.
― treeship., Friday, 3 January 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
guy owns himself by not only keeping but posting a list tbh
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 3 January 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link
anyway bernie otm
― treeship., Friday, January 3, 2020
mmm they kinda are? The bros are, especially on Twitter. Messianic fervor is a helluva thing in politics.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 3 January 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link
I endorse him anyway btw
his campaign is explicitly not personality-driven. so, if people think he is the messiah that is their problem
― treeship., Friday, 3 January 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
After all, they've been told
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 3 January 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
Keeping calm while the right politely deny anyone a future on this planet.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 January 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
Rabid twitter people ≠ most supporters. No way are Bernie’s stable of vocal zealots more toxic than Gabbard’s or Trump’s or, hell, Roy Moore’s.
― rb (soda), Friday, 3 January 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link