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I also learned from watching the 2010 live version of Daisy Glaze that the lyrics at the end are "you're gonne die!" over and over.

Not entirely true, he also throws in a "You're gonna decease!". :-D

but seriously, I've always thought the end of this crazy song was about overdosing from heroin (the "nullify my life" line that precedes this section is cribbed from Lou Reed/VU's paean to H). Memphis is such a weird town...

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:39 (four years ago) link

yeah, the VU reference passed me by for years (think i thought it was "gotta find my life"). but it makes sense, obviously Chilton was into that stuff (drugs and the VU). There's even some reference to Big Star covering Lou's "The Bed" live, which is pretty nuts. Guess it'd go hand-in-hand with "Holocaust."

tylerw, Friday, 20 December 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link

me neither, I didn't get the lyrics to that song until decades after first hearing it

Οὖτις, Friday, 20 December 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

i love the "you're gonna decease!" part! now that i know it's there, i mean

the song i always associate with heroin is "ballad of el goodo" bc it reminds me of my friend who ODed :(

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

Update: it's actually going to be 4 songs!

To get even more psyched I am reading A Man Called Destruction" and haven't gotten very far -- I'm at the end of the box tops atm. the stuff about Chilton's early childhood was really interesting, and how the author talked to his friends. especially his female friends. I feel like I have read some music bios and rarely hear that perspective on a person as notorious as Alex Chilton (antihero or otherwise). You learn a lot about people that way and it made him seem kind of less enigmatic and more relatable in a way that I recognized him (not that I related to him personally). And the losses too :( so sad.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Thursday, 26 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

@edmasley
"I'd like to go to India/Live in a big white house in the forest/Drink gin and tonic and play a grand piano/Read a few books far from what saddens my heart."
Born this day in 1951, Andy Hummel of
@BigStarBand
whose many contributions to their legacy include writing The India Song.

dow, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:44 (three years ago) link

Sad to report here that Jeff Breeze, the college radio DJ who called Alex Chilton and pitched the idea of a Big Star reunion show at the Universit of Missouri, passed away suddenly late last year. I'm still unclear as to exactly what happened, but it appears to have been cardiac related.

trip maker, Wednesday, 27 January 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

On today's Jeopardy, the Double Jeopardy round had the categories "Big Star" & "#1 Record".

"what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 29 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

I wonder what questions they would come up with for the topic "Sister Lovers"?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 29 January 2021 18:39 (three years ago) link

Hmm.

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:03 (three years ago) link

"Jenny and Pattie Boyd".

"Who were Mick Fleetwood and George Harrison's wives"?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 29 January 2021 19:10 (three years ago) link

Ringo and Joe Walsh?

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:15 (three years ago) link

don't really see it mentioned but they were some pretty handsome fellas

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:28 (three years ago) link

andy hummel's mom was a Miss America!

Washington Generals D-League affiliate (will), Friday, 29 January 2021 19:29 (three years ago) link

No denying that Jody Stephens is memorably beautiful 😍

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:31 (three years ago) link

I’ve been trying hard against unbelievable odds! https://t.co/DyjaOs71kN

— Ken Jennings (@KenJennings) January 30, 2021

This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Saturday, 30 January 2021 15:47 (three years ago) link

<3

brimstead, Saturday, 30 January 2021 18:00 (three years ago) link

haha awesome. ken rocks

flopson, Saturday, 30 January 2021 20:18 (three years ago) link

Champion move, kudos

that's not my post, Saturday, 30 January 2021 21:26 (three years ago) link

WATCH: Sadler is joined by @BigStarBand drummer Jody Stephens, Tom Petersson of @cheaptrick and guitar great Audley Freed @SherylCrow for "The Ballad of El Goodo"- Big Star https://t.co/DJwUaHylCg

— Sadler Vaden (@SadlerVaden) February 2, 2021

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 00:05 (three years ago) link

Wow

Next Time Might Be Hammer Time (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 00:09 (three years ago) link

HI DERE

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 00:58 (three years ago) link

Rad. Did they use taped backing vox?

DJI, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

I think that's Sadler, so yeah.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 3 February 2021 01:27 (three years ago) link

That's what I assumed.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 February 2021 02:07 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://s3.amazonaws.com/popturf/original_1388496647big_star_grocery.jpg

namesake (chain grocery store across the st. from Ardent's own storefront)

dow, Friday, 26 February 2021 18:54 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Has anyone read that Rich Tupica book about Chris Bell? It looks interesting, has a strong blurb from Bob Mehr among other things.

The Ballad of Mel Cooley (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 21 March 2021 17:32 (three years ago) link

Hadn't heard of that.
xxp pic of the store reminds me now of recent experience:
GPS voice insists we've take a wrong turn somewhere in very weathered Selma sidestreets--we're vaccine-seeking time travelers, headed into sepia dried blood rust bone-gray Edmund Pettus heyday, still a few(?) blocks from his Bridge--back on track just after passing a battered cube, with its sign painted on concrete over the front door: Big Star Grocery---in small letters made of blessedly bright Kool-Aid Popsicle Vacation Bible School colors.

dow, Monday, 29 March 2021 01:16 (three years ago) link

(Oh yeah, meant to mention AC & Hi Rhythm Section alb coming out in May, details here:
Alex Chilton S&D)

dow, Monday, 29 March 2021 01:23 (three years ago) link

BIG STORE

Adoration of the Mogwai (Deflatormouse), Monday, 29 March 2021 01:55 (three years ago) link

seven months pass...

Big Star drummer Jody Stephens — who often collaborated with the Posies’ Ken Stringfellow on recent iterations of the power-pop legends — announced Friday he would no longer work with Stringfellow following a string of sexual misconduct allegations against the artist....Stringfellow denied “these specific allegations” after several women accused him of sexual misconduct in an investigation by NPR’s Seattle affiliate KUOW. “I am a nonviolent person and I would never intentionally harm someone,” Stringfellow said. “Still, I am taking personal responsibility for the harm my behavior caused these women.” A relatively straightforward mea culpa, as these things so. Also bounced from Posies--- leading to possible musical improvements in Stephens-led Big Star tributes?
ollingstone.com/music/music-news/big-star-jody-stephens-removes-ken-stringfellow-misconduct-allegations-1250594/#recipient_hashed=970f9bb2306cb113cb73fc8b6356ff90c42825af7eda2f3e047

dow, Friday, 29 October 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link

as these things *go*

dow, Friday, 29 October 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link

one month passes...

ody Stephens & Luther Russell are Those Pretty Wrongs...

Those Pretty Wrongs (2016) & Zed For Zulu (2019) were both released to great critical success and the duo toured much of the US, Europe and Australia delighting crowds with Those Pretty Wrongs music. There's an undeniable influence of Stephens’ former band (Big Star) in the breezy melodies, the strong, simple and straightforward arrangements, beautifully built around the duo’s harmonies. Both albums were originally recorded at the legendary Ardent Studios in Memphis.

Billed as "Double the PRETTINESS for the price of one" and inspired by the classic truck-stop LP two-fers (along with the desire to update the vinyl pressing with premium cutting, and packaging) Curation Records has teamed up with Those Pretty Wrongs to not only put their two LPs back in print, but to also remind the world of the power of "pretty music."

The deluxe reissue of Those Pretty Wrongs / Zed For Zulu will be available as a Limited 2xLP Vinyl Gatefold Set, as well as CD and digital/streaming formats February 2022 via Curation Records. Click here to pre-order.
You'll figure it out.
Here's what folks have been saying about Those Pretty Wrongs...

"What shines through this gorgeous collection of tunes is the ease and simplicity of it all... it’s a collection of beautifully structured songs that could have been written any time between 1963 and yesterday." - Ian Rushbury, POPMATTERS

"... some extremely pretty folk." - Collin Robison, STEREOGUM

"These pure popsters contemporize ‘a golden age of rock and roll,’ with nary a whit of self-consciousness." - Doug Collette, GLIDE MAGAZINE

"Fans of Big Star and all the groups that they influenced - from REM to The dBs - will want to check this out immediately!" - Mark Smotroff, AUDIOPHILE REVIEW

"The music Those Pretty Wrongs makes is enjoyable, warm, heart-filling, soulful pop with acoustic flavors and harmonies – and I can ask for nothing better. Actually, here’s the simplest criteria – I love it. And so will you." - Min Read, POPDOSE

"If you like pop songs full of longing and wistfulness sung and performed with a master's touch, then this should be right up your alley. Those Pretty Wrongs have crafted a lovely homage to the softer side of smart pop that are perfect for late at night or a rainy afternoon." - Mark Deming, ALLMUSIC

"... a great LP that reflects the traditions of past acoustic music... overall it’s a solid win for these two veteran musicians." - Ben Rosner, PASTE

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link

Sorry ody!

dow, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 02:39 (two years ago) link

The guitar on Lucky Guy really does sound exactly like Thirteen

calstars, Wednesday, 1 December 2021 04:06 (two years ago) link

sequence from Sweet Soul Music thread (copied to main Alex Chilton thread

Judging by "Boogie Shoes" on YouTube, most of the appeal of the Alex Chilton/Hi Rhythm live album might be insrumental, which reminds me: here they are with Terry Manning, better known as a producer and engineer at Ardent etc. but his rough-and-ready vocal approach works better with HRS live than Chilton's (comparing just one track to another):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5lyZHzReSk

(Chilton seems a bit cautious by comparison---their set was a one-off, but so was Manning's w HRS---filling in at the last minute for a no-show, and just taking the plunge, what the hell---this is the only live track on his album, and really seemed like the only keeper---according to the press sheet, he did a Box Tops Chilton parody for kicks, and was ordered to create an album around it, which mostly seemed like filler, but I didn't listen much)

However!
So Chilton does okay after all, though yeah of course Hi Rhythm Gang is the main interest, esp. horns and bass, though everybody steps up--most songs go on a little over four minutes and a half minutes; the studio originals were at least a minute shorter, but but we get more solo turns and full Section flexing, comfortably. Fave is the penultimate performance, "Hello Josephine," where a Hi man starts the vocal, Chilton coming in later: a very robust 7:12 work-out, calm as ever. Also: Motown gets the Memphis treatment on "Where Did Our Love Go," with Chilton as okay stand-in for Diana Ross, though this is one of he shorter ones, as it probably should be).Does not sing as high, loud and fast there as on "Lucille" or "Maybelline." Sounds like Pat Boone looking to go rong on "Kansas City." Any of yall heard this one? xgau sez:
On the Loose [Hi, 1976]
In which Al Green's sidemen, perhaps disgruntled at Al's unwillingness to record their material, get together and cut it. Some stickler for detail is sure to point out that the singing on side two is completely out of tune, but that's OK--so is most of the singing on side one, which I prefer to Full of Fire. One of the more carefully thought out tracks features a mildly malicious lyric about Green himself, but it's the eccentricity of the music, which sounds as if it includes a banjo, that does him in. Loose indeed. A-

Anyway, very good music for a holiday weekend, has me looking to go for b-b-q chicken.

― dow, Thursday, July 1, 2021

dow, Friday, 10 December 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

That's this
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81gT88tp2qL._SL1200_.jpg

Alex Chilton and Hi Rhythm Section:
Boogie Shoes: Live On Beale Street

dow, Friday, 10 December 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

MAGNET Magazine
@MAGNETMagazineHappy birthday #ChrisBell (@BigStarBand, @chrisbell_story, @ArdentStudios).

You gave us light. Read two exclusive excerpts from “There Was A Light: The Cosmic History Of Chris Bell And The Rise Of Big Star” (@PermutedPress):

https://magnetmagazine.com/2020/10/29/magnet-exclusive-excerpt-from-there-was-a-light-the-cosmic-history-of-chris-bell-and-the-rise-of-big-star-by-rich-tupica/

https://magnetmagazine.com/2019/01/15/magnet-exclusive-excerpt-from-there-was-a-light-the-cosmic-history-of-chris-bell-the-rise-of-big-star-by-rich-tupica/

dow, Saturday, 12 February 2022 18:50 (two years ago) link

That book is good, I have it.

Ferryboat Bill Jr. (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 12 February 2022 19:28 (two years ago) link

good stuff, alex chilton was/is the coolest

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 February 2022 17:21 (two years ago) link

how did it take me this long to realize that line from "in the street" is "wish we had a joint so bad" i always just kind of blurred it over for some reason.

Nedlene Grendel as Basenji Holmo (map), Sunday, 13 February 2022 17:23 (two years ago) link

What did you think he was singing? Serious question

Wish we'd had/adjoined so bad

a (waterface), Monday, 14 February 2022 15:51 (two years ago) link

Never thought it could be anything else.

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 February 2022 16:00 (two years ago) link

i've heard that song a million times and never thought about what he was singing there, haha

i should start listening to words in other songs, see what's there!

snarl self own (Karl Malone), Monday, 14 February 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

Worth a try, what have you got to lose?

Solaris Ocean Blue (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 14 February 2022 18:30 (two years ago) link

I've spent the last 30 years thinking it was "wish we hadda joined some band" and frankly wish I still did.

cw, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

Never been sure if the joint is a spliff, or a crashpad (cos they're hanging out on the street)

Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:20 (two years ago) link

I always like it when this thread is revived because I think mark s's opening comment taught me not to get upset about opinions on a music message board

Ward Fowler, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:22 (two years ago) link

Karl unfamiliar with joints?
Nope that’s not it

calstars, Monday, 14 February 2022 19:53 (two years ago) link


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