Ah, The Gray Lady and her cadre of witty Crit- Jedi's.Scott's idea of a fun sci fi romp is prob "Solaris" so, you know, life of the party and all that.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 20 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
Scott had Fury Road as one his ten faves of the decade, so no, he's too pro-fun for me
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
can i just say since no one else has? the new droid? that looks like a lamp on a wheel?? the best!!! i’m not sure how he, or babu frick, or the hurt snake fit into everybody’s metatextual ip analysis or whatever - i don’t think they do? - but that little wheel guy got probably more screen time than R2D2 and i was extremely there for it
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
And voiced by JJ himself at that.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 December 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
John Williams cameo was fun too even if it was a classic 'hi we're going to linger on this shot a beat too long so that way you get that even with the eyepiece etc. that is someone you should know there' cameo.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 20 December 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link
since this is the spoiler thread, the AV Club discusses the spoilery complaints here:
https://film.avclub.com/the-rise-of-skywalker-walks-back-the-last-jedi-s-best-d-1840513344
― Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
the butthurt, is strong with this one
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
when vader reveals he’s luke’s father in empire was that also a cowardly narrative cop-out? sheeshi like how a the granddaughter of the baddest baddie is good, and the grandson of the goodest goodie is bad, they save each other’s lives, come together for a kiss, and then rey just up and chooses a new last name. family’s what you make it, family’s what makes sense, family’s malleable. pretty good message imo!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:48 (four years ago) link
Gets two stars from me and easily the worst of the new trilogy. Guess JJ was hurt when Rian got rid of Kylo's mask early on in TLJ. I know it's SW but so much of this seemed to make no sense and there seemed a real disconnect between this and the previous two movies. Wonder if Abrams will do a Lucas and go back and drop some hints about Palpatine, or Luke searching for those Sith pyramid map things into TFA or TLJ
― groovypanda, Friday, 20 December 2019 18:51 (four years ago) link
the way things have been going w/ Disney and fiddling with existing IP, I absolutely expect something like that to happen
― Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link
are you saying the mask with the red lines in it wasn’t fuckin cool??
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
family’s what you make it, family’s what makes sense, family’s malleable
as long as it extends familiar dynasties
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link
it is so boring that palpatine is in this movie
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
I still say I want Rian and JJ to have a reversion war battle where they make new sequels undoing the last
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link
in the unlikely event Johnson actually does get to wage more star wars he should call his new villain KK Starman imo
― Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
Tbh even though I liked the movie a lot, inserting Palpatine back into things kinda shoved the First Order to the bench. At least they didn't overexplain how.
Hux is a complete afterthought. He acts pretty badly too so maybe Gleeson did that out of anger.
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
Rian's main heavy: JK BUTTRAMS
Then JJ introduces Darth Peeon and superimposes Rian's face onto his body deepfake style.
Then Rian drives to JJ's house and murders him and releases the snuff film ad Ep 12
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
I am sleep deprived
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
brad otm
― ciderpress, Friday, 20 December 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link
if Palpatine aint dead, Vader reformation = FAIL
hence this film is not CANON
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
This was fine. It helps that I went in with low expectations.
― silverfish, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
My main complaint is that a lot of dumb stuff happens (like in most star wars). The whole thing with Chewie's "death" was particularly bad.
The Kylo and Rey characters are both good though and save this movie (and trilogy really).
― silverfish, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
Most eye-rolling part: Chewbacca getting a medal.
― silverfish, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link
He didn't even get a nice ceremony with everybody applauding.
― silverfish, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
wookiees can have little a ceremony, as a treat
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Assuming they must have shoehorned the Leia scenes in off the cutting room floor and wrote the plot around them as she didn't look CGI
― groovypanda, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
only odd CG-ish Leia was during training w/ Luke scene
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
yeah, all the Leia scenes were scenes that were originally filmed for the Force Awakens. Which is why all her lines are so generic and knowing this ahead of time kind of ruined all those scenes for me.
― silverfish, Friday, 20 December 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
Yea deaged Leia looked like a 1999 PlayStation character
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link
― silverfish, Friday, December 20, 2019 3:45 PM bookmarkflaglink
I thought it was weird when she kept talking to Han and everyone kept replying "No sweetie remember Han is dead!"
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 20:58 (four years ago) link
friends collectively releasing a sigh of relief at the end knowing we’re free of the Skywalkers
― mh, Friday, 20 December 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
#justiceforgeneralhugs otmMy stifled guffaw moment was “I made Snoke” followed by a cut to a VAT OF SNOKES
― mh, Friday, 20 December 2019 23:54 (four years ago) link
Palpimandias!
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:19 (four years ago) link
vat of snokes was awesome.
undead zombie battalion of star destroyers - awesome.
hux feeling so petty and undermined that he'd help our gang - awesome. "i'm the spy!" - awesome.
the more i think about this movie the more things i love about it. i whooped about 5 or 6 times probably? more than the previous two instalments anyway. i know we all saw rey's backflip tie slice in the trailer but it was AWESOME.
was there ever any payoff to rey learning she could accidentally do force lightning? guess not.
i loved that rey, when facing palpatine, is once again faced with the paradox that confronts luke again and again in the OG series which is - how can you FIGHT somebody in a STAR WAR and WIN when they keep telling you that as soon as you hit them with your awesome lightsabre you will have turned to the dark side, so that you lose?? it would fill me with anxiety watching luke fight vader, like, fight good man, but not too good! fuck! so luke never 'wins', not like that, and here rey does, she smooshes palpatine into force particles by mirroring his destroyer-levelling lightning back onto him which i guess DOESN'T COUNT because it's his own energy, jujitsu'ed onto him, rather than originating with rey? haha which i like, so lame, but also exactly the right level of schoolyard rule that any 8 year old would have to nod sagely and be like, yep, that's right, it was your own electricity, sorry, GOT EM
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link
which IS like i should have said
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:22 (four years ago) link
Isn't that a tip to Sidious' original demise? Vader's mechanized grasp + Force lightning turned back on him and Vader in ROTJ.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:26 (four years ago) link
Ahhh you're right. This guy really never learns.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
oh by the way anybody really wants a kid with no backstory who's got the force there's always.... broom boy. you know, the kid from your favourite movie that's so risky and interesting
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link
I've never whooped at anything in my life, but I do love that there are people so positive and enthusiastic that they can't help it.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:39 (four years ago) link
tracer are you JJ
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:41 (four years ago) link
the cinema had about 9 people in it at 4 in the afternoon of opening day so er... the atmosphere wasn't creating itself!
xpost no i have clear glasses
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 December 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
Palpatine’s appearance was fucked up because in the prequel, his lightning was blasted back at him by Mace Windu! Dumbass never learns. I think the two most awkward bits other than the “everything at once” ending battle were the premise drop at the beginning that seemed portentous in teasers — sith temple! palpatine! — only to be rushed through, and the scene where Chewie is captured and Rey does lightning. How far away was Rey, and how much further was Ben? How did no one see the capture around the corner, and how did anyone see each other clearly? I mean, the answer is that they didn’t, but it seemed like they were all a quick jog away
― mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 01:46 (four years ago) link
The sith planet stuff was shadowy on purpose but I have no idea why there were a ton of hooded shapeless entities and you could tell methey were ghosts or anything at all and it’d be all the same
― mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link
I get why they had the “memory” of Han showing up as a non-force ghost but it didn’t gel. Pretty obviously an insert due to Carrie Fisher’s death and an inability to have her deliver exposition, but Harrison Ford looked weird too! Was that actually him? Has he been hitting the botox or was he animated into the scene
― mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:49 (four years ago) link
on the other hand, the bit where her body onlydisappeared after Ben‘s death worked. She was walking with him, narratively
― mh, Saturday, 21 December 2019 02:50 (four years ago) link
sorry for nerdist link but it covers everything I hate about the Rey Palpatine arc: https://nerdist.com/article/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-rey-reveal/
i don't even hate the idea that he returned and she has to fight him! But it was unnecessary for her to be either his granddaughter or a Skywalker. so fucking dumb.
Also Driver and Ridley deserve credit for anchoring it with a semblance of emotional weight that wasn’t rooted in nostalgia.
^^this otm, particularly Driver. Kylo Ren was basically reduced to an exposition machine and his redemption was oddly rushed (mother dies, gets killed, revived, has a conversation with dead dad, immediately realises the error of his ways. ok) but he still sold the hell out of it.
All the Reylo scenes were fantastic - physical objects being transferred through their connection was the coolest new use of force powers.
― Roz, Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
So have we addressed the fact that Palpatine had sex
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link
^^Fixing to say.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:31 (four years ago) link
...and that somehow Daisy Ridley is the eventual result.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 21 December 2019 03:32 (four years ago) link