Damon Lindelof's Watchmen

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mark s, Friday, 20 December 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link

Looking Glass pulls his speeding car over to ask his ex-wife if she ever really loved him

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

The first half of the series was considerably better than the second half, the more I think about it.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link

since ep 6 was in the second half I'd disagree, but first 2/3rds was better is true.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link

6 + 8 were my overall favorites even if I think the Manhattan plot overall distracted from the more intriguing stuff in the first half

Simon H., Friday, 20 December 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

Agree. Show lost me when it became an exposition fest. Tho the penultimate episode was good

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

I'm still hung up on it not being 12 eps, so imo #6 still feels like the halfway point to me. Maybe it's because they were still taking their time up to that point, with easily 5 eps of material cut down into 3 for the final act. Anyway, this was overall far better than it had any right to be. It was overall a pleasant discovery.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 December 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

I want a Dr Manhattan toilet

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Show was very compelling throughout, a lot better than the mediocre film obv.

The playing around with time was very clever, obv the hooded justice episode employed it well in a more direct way but the Manhattan reveal episode did it remarkably well.

Don Johnson’s presence was key I think because he sauntered through the episode like a born leader, very charismatic, a beloved figure, we’re invited to like him, and the twist of course is he’s one who slowly turns into this malignant presence after his death. Johnson is a very good actor and always has been, his skills have been employed in some pap but he’s got the goods. The cyclops leadership getting cooked at the end was of course very satisfying.

It was a show to get immersed in and might bear rescreening though it was difficult to watch at times; it doesn’t shy away from the particularly specific American strain of ugliness that is built into the country’s dna.

omar little, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link

seeing rumblings that HBO doesn't want to do a s2 without Lindelof which if true is ohhhhhhh the irony lmao

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

HBO won't pursue second season of 'Watchmen' after creator bows out

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/01/16/watchmen-second-hbo-season-wont-happen-after-creator-bails/4491269002/

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 16 January 2020 22:48 (four years ago) link

Creator

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link

they forgot the scare quotes

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:18 (four years ago) link

hbo should bring in someone else to do season 2 against lindelof’s wishes

que pasa picasso (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:36 (four years ago) link

you mean like Alan Moore?

Οὖτις, Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:38 (four years ago) link

don't think Moore would be interested

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:39 (four years ago) link

Xpost man you love spoiling joeks don't u

papa stank (Neanderthal), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:40 (four years ago) link

Lindelof has already "given" his "blessing" to do future seasons without him, so AT&T are being perfectly consistent in cancelling it

don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Thursday, 16 January 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

this is a major bummer. show was so good. but maybe this prevents it from inevitable decline.

akm, Friday, 17 January 2020 02:26 (four years ago) link

enh I still think he'll do it a couple years down the line

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link

Still think the finale was very disappointing, but not in a series-destroying way.

Really the worst lapse taste was that rawk cover of I am the walrus at the very end. A truly horrible decision

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:05 (four years ago) link

that was spooky tooth!

akm, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

i was repeatedly surprised by this and liked it quite a bit up thru and culminating w the hooded justice ep, but as a corny dr. manhattan bro who loves a dr. manhattan performance was also waiting excitedly the whole time for dr. manhattan to appear. loved the reveal of dr. manhattan and texted tolerant friends screenshots all thru the dr. manhattan episode. then the show plummeted straight off a cliff as a direct result of the presence of dr. manhattan, like he was an anvil it had been tied to. if alan moore did curse the show that was the curse.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

i don't blame the actor who played him here but Manhattan was pretty boring.

i guess that one mystery character they showed one, slippery pete or whatever he was called, the guy in the outfit going down the sewer drain...we'll never have any idea who that guy was.

omar little, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link

maybe my irony detector is broken, but the ancillary materials made clear/explicit it was the agent

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

yes, petey is lubeman, this is canon

bidenfan69420 (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it was canonically confirmed via the Peteypedia entry after the last episode.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

slippery pete was a coincidental joke name that i now see was eerily accurate

omar little, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

(i forgot the agent's name and didn't read the ancillary materials)

omar little, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

iirc, "Lube Guy" was the name that picked up traction.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link

just very little bc of the lube

if you're in the thread, keep on posting (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 17 January 2020 18:49 (four years ago) link

i think read that he included the lubeman bc this season emerged from lindelof's own obsession with the mystery of hooded justice's identity (which he built the season around) and he wanted to leave a mystery for others

Mordy, Friday, 17 January 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:30 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Because of "Watchmen." Decades of historians have been trying to let the world know about this massacre, and it took an alternate history comic book drama to break the wall of racism. IDK whether to laugh or cry, but let no one say fiction has no power in the real world. https://t.co/l7ixJN5JlQ

— N. K. Jemisin (@nkjemisin) February 20, 2020

mookieproof, Thursday, 20 February 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

So now Lindelof is serially publishing an alternate reality time travel Hilary fanfic thing: https://nextdraft.com/something-something-something-murder/

DJI, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:27 (four years ago) link

sorry I mean Hillary.

DJI, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

streaming for free all this weekend: https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/06/hbo-watchmen-streaming-free-juneteenth/

Roz, Friday, 19 June 2020 03:46 (three years ago) link

Maybe I'll give this a shot...

Nhex, Friday, 19 June 2020 04:47 (three years ago) link

Pretty great season of TV imo

DJI, Friday, 19 June 2020 05:56 (three years ago) link

Gonna try to watch this ifpi can figure out a way to stream on my TV

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 19 June 2020 06:09 (three years ago) link

So it was fairly entertaining, perhaps a bit sillier than I was expecting, and lingered too much on flashbacks, but I appreciated how true it was to the original, even down to its approach to plotting, while building and expanding upon that world for the modern day. I do think it was clearly made with more seasons in mind, and it's a little disappointing they aren't continuing.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 June 2020 03:17 (three years ago) link

Also, this went right over my head

if you're all watching the Watchmen for free on HBO this weekend don't miss what the writers did here.

Happy Father's Day from Fred T and Sons. pic.twitter.com/2jYIkxaL9r

— Zeddy (@Zeddary) June 21, 2020

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Monday, 22 June 2020 03:18 (three years ago) link

Powered through it all yesterday, goddman outstanding.

Nhex, Monday, 22 June 2020 03:31 (three years ago) link

WATCHMEN (HBO, 2019) pic.twitter.com/mM8uYIFhAh

— Alan Sepinwall (@sepinwall) July 1, 2020

ACABincalifornia (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

goddman outstanding

"Goddman" is the naked blue guy, yeah(?)

Pat McGroin (morrisp), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:18 (three years ago) link

I really wish this season had stuck the landing, so much of it was so great

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:21 (three years ago) link

Same! Great buildup, and the finale was like a Heroes episode

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

omg that's exactly right

this needs to get another season if only to redeem itself from that

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 1 July 2020 22:42 (three years ago) link

Alan Moore, who has not willingly written for DC Comics (bar one six-page 9/11 charity story in 2001) since the 1980s, due to their interference with and theft of his work, had their #1, #3, #5, #6 and #7 best-selling comics in 2019.

That year, DC had $20, $25, and $30 paperbacks of Watchmen in print with different covers, and $40 and $50 hardcovers of the same book.


(#4 was a YA book about Raven from Teen Titans, the other four were Batman comics, including the one that had his penis removed.)

bat ain't Thad (sic), Wednesday, 8 July 2020 00:13 (three years ago) link


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