presumably it'd be to motivate 2016 nonvoters
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
I still don't know how much to trust the numbers this far out but I'm pretty sure "this guy is corrupt as hell and if we take the House we can do something about it" was a good message for midterms
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
there will be more fuck-ups and probably crimes to enumerat.
crimes like publicly inviting foreign governments to interfere in the 2020 election are p much a foregone conclusion at this point
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
they should just keep impeaching him. nothing in the Constitution that says it can't happen more than once.
that'd 'play badly'
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
maybe take impeachment breaks when it's infrastructure week though
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
*wipes the optics off of eyeglasses*
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
I'm not gonna say that we're past the point where the increasingly-popular trend of rejecting observable reality might potentially be reversible buuuuuut it might be worth proceeding as if it were.
― i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
Need an update on the number of flushes Trump did today
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:40 (four years ago) link
I'd like a golfing update, too. Is he getting enough golf in these days?
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:43 (four years ago) link
Didn't he dial it back after his surprise routine physical?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:47 (four years ago) link
hope he has a routine physical on live TV sometime soon
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:50 (four years ago) link
18 holes, 15 flushes, 5 children
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
I could visualize this better as a graph.
― A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
18 holes, 15 flushes, 5 children, 1 cup
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
dropping the kids off at the pool
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 22:59 (four years ago) link
he *will* need a TV show when this is over
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
if this is over
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:04 (four years ago) link
With all the holes on a golf course, he could alleviate the toilet problem.
― Martialarts Ali (Leee), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:05 (four years ago) link
he'd need pretty good aim and a very understanding caddy
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link
As always (but even more so lately), I am trying to imagine anyone who did not vote for Donald Trump in 2016 - either because they voted for Clinton, or they didn't vote at all - observing Trump for three solid years, and opting to vote for him in 2020. I can't make the leap.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link
Some alt-right teenz who weren’t old enough to vote last time around, but yeah, it is hard to imagine otherwise. And the alt-right teenz are outweighed by cool left-leaning teenz, anyway.
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:11 (four years ago) link
was hearing some number-crunch prognosticator put his bottom-line reelection count at 47%
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
Of course, teens don’t vote because they’re busy with their Pokémon and vaping and premarital sex
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:12 (four years ago) link
I agree and I think he's probably not going to win in 2020 but you've still got the incumbent advantage + the clear intent to solicit foreign meddling + next level voter suppression + the electoral college to worry about
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:19 (four years ago) link
i think the main issues wrt beating him are:
a) yeah: his popularity is low but the people who like him love him - he has a very energized base. b) republican voters aren't going to vote for a democrat.
so he can do similarly well as how he did last time and if democrats have issues bringing out their voters again he can still win
― xmas respecter (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:22 (four years ago) link
Eh I could fathom some heretofore non-voters and maybe some initially squeamish Republicans—and I’m talking some real dumbasses here—who may have been inducted into the cult of trump since his election. but I’d imagine this is a tiny group of folks and would (hopefully) have no effect on the election. Like if you added all the op ed Never Trumpers to surviving McCain family members
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:28 (four years ago) link
I believe than young dumb people frequently replace dead dumb people
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:37 (four years ago) link
https://i.ibb.co/kB8wxLV/FB-IMG-1576798721814.jpgguy names that start with ag
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link
Libs taking any whiff of good news and turning it into hyperbolic freakout shockah
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:41 (four years ago) link
freakout yes, hyperbole no
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link
...and getting killed in school shootings.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link
Have to say that however illusory and probably short-lived...watching Dems hack the rules and give McConnell a taste of his own shithead medicine is immensely gratifying
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:56 (four years ago) link
Xxxpost Not voting to impeach does not even remotely make him effectively a dictator anymore that it exposes impeachment as an ineffective partisan tool. I'm fairly sure the Founding Fathers would be shocked if we told them no President had been removed from office using that tool.
They designed something that was meant to work in the 18th century and in today's polarized era, I doubt anybody will be removed from office.
I think all of us agree he is attempting to erode the rule of law, instituting echo chambers by naming unqualified loyalists, and violating the independence of several non-partisan institutes, but his success has been mixed, and he's been stymied multiple times. Yeah the problem is bigger than Trump. No shit.
But, bad as things are, a "dictatorship" is not imminent.
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link
WHOA: Christianity Today, an evangelical Christian magazine, just called for Trump's removal from office: https://t.co/ar9dvjOroA— Jack Jenkins (@jackmjenkins) December 19, 2019
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:02 (four years ago) link
CINOS!!!
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link
that's kind of surprising... i'm guessing Franklin G doesn't have anything to do with CT?
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:42 (four years ago) link
I hate to be this guy but Xity Today has been pretty progressive for a minute now, which is how evangelicals will react to this.
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
cover for Pence to eventually say he's prayed really hard and very gravely, sadly, must gladly accept the sacred duty of being the carved wooden doomsday statue leader of the party
― Doctor Casino, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:47 (four years ago) link
ah duh thanks
xpost
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link
nytimes subhed is a real classic of the genre: 'a crossroads for a nation in tumult'
stfu nytimes
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 20 December 2019 00:55 (four years ago) link
This may seem kinda facile (or perhaps it's already a thing people have already pointed out in quarters I don't frequent) but it hit me like a bolt from the blue this evening: the GOP is a pack of dogs, well-trained to respond to their master's voice (which is all about the timbre and the intonation and has nothing whatever to do with the actual words employed) in lieu of any pesky autonomous impulses. And, like well-trained dogs, their range of tricks is fairly limited and predictable. Like if you confronted one of them with this observation, you could pretty easily predict how they'd react (No puppy! No puppy! You're the puppy!). I don't know how effective it would be, ultimately, but it might not hurt to hit that rhetorical nail hard and frequently on the off-chance that Trump fans don't like thinking of themselves as mangy curs broken to their master's will. Plant whatever seeds of doubt you can and see what sprouts imo.
― i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link
Or grow weed
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:32 (four years ago) link
No offence, but based on Australia and the UK it's this kind of "well these people might mean well but they're all just a bit stupid, let's enlighten them" hubris which gets you smashed at the ballot box. Labor (Aus) and Labour (UK) rolled through the campaign with an attitude of "it's self-evident how much these ideas are better than the Libs / Tories, we're explaining them carefully so you can see we know what's best" and the respective electorates just shrugged a "fuck you, smug lefties" and voted in their own perceived interest. I am deeply left wing in my politics but I wince every time my side makes this mistake, over and over and over.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:49 (four years ago) link
"enlightening" them is def a waste of time. now demoralizing them otoh...
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 20 December 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
Yeah they need a few decades of being beaten
at the ballot box i mean of course
― "Third of the Storms" Jazz (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link
Yeah, my train of thought has precisely zero to do with getting republicans to see the error of their ways. That shit ain't gonna happen. It's not about getting them to suddenly adopt a moral code but rather shoving their nose in the fact that they've happily fastened fancy rhinestone-studded collars around their necks and they're such good boys, who's a good boy, who's a good boy
― i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
Humiliation doesn't work because your opinion doesn't count. Demoralizing doesn't work. "Deplorables" is merely the shining example.
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link
^otm
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:12 (four years ago) link
Oh cool 2016 relitigation time
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 December 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link