US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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I got banned from FB for a day for calling Kevin McCarthy a cunt

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link

Good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:11 (four years ago) link

i find myself incapable of caring about trump's dingell joke. it just sounds like the same sort of lame riffing he always does, at his usual level of boorishness/offensiveness.

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:15 (four years ago) link

Yeah, Old News.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link

I dunno, for the sake of my mental + physical health I can't work myself into a lather that's proportionate to each day's degree of outrage but at the same time I don't ever want to be all '*shrug* whatevs' when the POTUS publicly jokes that the deceased spouse of a political opponent is in hell. It's not just not normal, it's way fucking abnormal.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:25 (four years ago) link

His surviving spouse was quite upset by it.

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:27 (four years ago) link

if a Dem senator joked about John McCain being in hell we'd be hearing about it for the next 40 years

frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

hopefully just everyone saying "that guy was correct"

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:31 (four years ago) link

I've gotten used to Trump seeing everything as transactional. Including doing normal president things like allowing funerals to happen for congress people.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

All this is making me dig in for my 2028 bid to be the first Satanic President

Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

xpost Yes, of course he does. He's a petty little bitch. But this 'lol your dead husband is in hell' thing is sort of a whole separate thing from that other thing.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link

i will vote for you, neanderthal. and if you need anyone to prepare the blood of the damned, stir the blood of the damned, drink it, boil it, pour it on people, whatever you need, please keep me in mind

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link

^^ sounds like quality VP material to me

tobo73, Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

i do have experience as a VP. i successfully ran for VP of my school's chapter of the National Honor Society, under the campaign slogan "Pro-Zach: it'll make you feel better". of course, after the blood incident during the first meeting i was banned

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link

Rep. Mark Meadows, one of Pres. Trump's confidants, will not seek reelection and expects to work closely with the president on the 2020 campaign, likely as a top surrogate

This makes me think they are going to implant Trump clone embryos in Meadows's gut and I cannot honestly say it's not a fate the man deserves

Guayaquil (eephus!), Thursday, 19 December 2019 15:55 (four years ago) link

this might be old news to you all but i am shaken at the realization that Karl Malone is Zach Snyder

Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link

that was a secret, but now that my cover is blown i can finally reveal that yes INDEED i am working on the fountainhead, which is all about an architect who is trying to defend his artistic integrity

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Finally we get the Snyder cut

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 19 December 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

The times have found us. Thank you for strong leadership and an empathetic hand @SpeakerPelosi. pic.twitter.com/1sBHXdr46d

— Rep. Debbie Dingell (@RepDebDingell) December 18, 2019

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

counterpoint from @steph93065, the 93,065th Steph on Twitter:

You betrayed your country today. May God bring you what you deserve.

— Steph (@steph93065) December 18, 2019

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

haha classic steph

Evan, Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link

You're thinking of steph93964. This is steph93065.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

I know Steph #93,065 is probably a bot and it's perhaps unfair to put this on her electronic shoulders, but I never thought I'd live to see so many people, living under pretty goddamn comfortable conditions and without much else to explain away their behavior, so eager to be publicly identified as irredeemable monsters. What a country!

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

Oaky I don't love Pelosi or anything and I know what "optics" are but that photo gives me a surge of feelings, and a big part of it is the look on Pelosi's face and the sense of striding forward motion. It's powerful.

There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

yeah. it's sad. i think it's reflecting back some of the dark feelings a lot of us are having lately too. maybe i'm just seeing what i want to see.

in other news, apparently giuliani has entered into a joint defense agreement Igor Fruman (of Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman fame).

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Stick to basketball, Steph!

DJI, Thursday, 19 December 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

okay lol

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:09 (four years ago) link

Steph what can I do?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

The more I think about it, the more I like the Dems move not to send the articles to the Senate yet. I mean, it's utterly meaningless in the grand scheme, but it shows some willingness to throw off tradition and play (rough) by a new set of rules. If nothing else, it seems to have riled Lindsay.

Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

Consider the source, but I like to imagine Trump having thrombosis worrying about whether the GOP will have a chance to exonerate him in the Senate.

POTUS lawyers are looking at various options for proceeding if House doesn't send articles of impeachment to the Senate. POTUS doesn't want it to be left hanging that he was impeached and nothing was done by Republicans to defend him in the Senate.

— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) December 19, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:26 (four years ago) link

damn

@SpeakerPelosi responds to @senatemajldr's complaining that the impeachment has been unfair, noting that while the Founders set up a system for a rogue president, "I don't thnk they suspected that we could have a rogue president and a rogue leader in the Senate at the same time." pic.twitter.com/U5FXg9c7NJ

— Oliver Willis (@owillis) December 19, 2019

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

Okay, I'll gladly eat any of the grumbling I've done in the lead-up to impeachment if it turns out Nance has been giving the GOP the ol' rope-a-dope all along.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

*gloves come off, horseshoe inserted, gloves go back on*

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

At this point, I wonder why anyone thinks Pelosi wouldn't cheerfully and brutally shiv any political rival in her way

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

Her public posture the last week has impressed the hell out of me.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

so is the shiv move to expedite or drag it out?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

"rogue" sounds cool, can we do "asshole" instead

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Email from the Trump campaign lacks some subtlety. pic.twitter.com/VuyA35JHD0

— Philip Bump (@pbump) December 19, 2019

um

frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

so is the shiv move to expedite or drag it out?

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius),

It looks like the latter, which has upended DC from what I've read on twitter. The Senate's Majority Turtle had prepared for a speedy trial and wasn't prepared for a tactic that is...very Republican.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:37 (four years ago) link

xxpost Given that they proudly wore 'deplorable' as a badge of honor (possibly because they didn't understand the word but still), I don't know that the choice of pejorative really makes that much difference.

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

some NPR monster (she's apparently the host of their 'politics podcast') sniffed this morningf that delaying would "look political," and the preferred fast-tracking would ensure that impeachment will be forgotten by summer.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

lol every single Republican in the house voted to protect a president who is clearly a criminal, who gives a shit if it "looks political"

frogbs, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

bcz the media/GOP always take the Dems' lunch money

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

this is an interesting move but it puts zero pressure on McConnell, he will just condemn it as another sham partisan move etc. and then move on

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

what would put pressure on him tho?

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:48 (four years ago) link

a boot to the trachea would be nice

Simon H., Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

Sham partisan denounces opponents' actions as sham partisanship, fake news at 11

i was so hungry that i ate a hole cake entirely to myself (Old Lunch), Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

maybe it's supposed to put pressure on trump (who will want his 'day'), and thereby mcconnell.

j., Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

what would put pressure on him tho?

the prospect of losing his seat or his Senate majority

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link

maybe it's supposed to put pressure on trump (who will want his 'day'), and thereby mcconnell.

yeah and this will happen, and then Trump will get distracted by how many times he had to flush a toilet

Οὖτις, Thursday, 19 December 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link


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