Zoviet France: Classic or Dud?

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i hope this is an error that "Vienna 1990" and "What is Not True" are only going to be single LPs as that will mean they have been drastically edited if so.

stirmonster, Thursday, 19 December 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

Nah they have double numbers, 16 LPs total. Gonna pass on the full box, but might upgrade my Shouting At The Ground and maybe go for Collusion 2. I'm happy with my OG CDs/LPs of the rest (and really dislike split tracks on vinyl).

sleeve, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:21 (four years ago) link

"Vienna" only has one number assigned to it - the very end of that CD is my favourite part so i hope they don't ditch that.

"Cyclonic Sub Alien" on "What Is Not True" is in my ZF top 10 but at 54 minutes long will have to be broken up across 3 sides. Still, I'm super happy to be able to contemplate having Vienna, What Is Not True & Collusion on vinyl for the first time.

"I was Jim Jones' attorney..."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9X8YVWoQn0

stirmonster, Friday, 20 December 2019 00:37 (four years ago) link

Vienna... is only 64:23, I have VOD album sides longer than 32 minutes that have zero issues, the mastering is always impeccable. So my guess is that it will be full-length - sorry, thought you meant Shadow there in yr initial post.

sleeve, Friday, 20 December 2019 01:48 (four years ago) link

i don't believe that 32 minutes is possible per side with zero issues. Especially with a recording as dynamic as this. I guess we shall see......

stirmonster, Friday, 20 December 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

eight months pass...

2nd box is now sold out, standalone LPs still available

https://www.vod-records.com/SHOP-1-6.htm

sleeve, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 21:02 (three years ago) link

dang I am so psyched for the two unreleased albums and More Collusion, and absolutely thrilled that the long track from Bad Alchemy #10 ("Spike") is on there.

sleeve, Friday, 18 September 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

OMG thank you sleeve. just ordered JAi and STOTS. xmas comes early!

Paul, Saturday, 19 September 2020 06:24 (three years ago) link

happy to help!

sleeve, Saturday, 19 September 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link

wow, lotta stuff here for download as well as listening

https://soundcloud.com/zoviet-france

sleeve, Thursday, 24 September 2020 21:44 (three years ago) link

A most useful tip! Pity I missed them in SF by a year...

Ned Raggett, Friday, 25 September 2020 00:58 (three years ago) link

Wowowow, last week I came closer than ever to shelling out a fortune for Shadow, Thief so I'm so glad I saw this.

ed.b, Friday, 25 September 2020 02:15 (three years ago) link

awesome, yeah get in here ILM lurkers and fans, these are gonna sell out soon

sleeve, Friday, 25 September 2020 03:08 (three years ago) link

FYI the 1st "unreleased" album (The End Of Nothing, The Beginning Of Everything) is actually the previously-grey-area "Music For A Spaghetti Western" but it has been retitled and has actual track names now, and more tracks than the original 4.

sleeve, Friday, 25 September 2020 15:09 (three years ago) link

That is great to hear. Any insights into "Russian Heterodoxical Songs"?

stirmonster, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

not yet... hoping that isgenuinely unreleased. and to clarify above, what I mean is that the long track (Scene 2) appears to have been broken up into a bunch of individual tracks, there is no extra material but there are more tracks and they have new names.

sleeve, Friday, 25 September 2020 16:56 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

Are you sure about the above, sleeve? Having now listened to The End... I don't think it's the same as Music from a Spaghetti Western.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 5 November 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link

not 100%, but there's a sample in the latter that has the title of the former? my box won't be here for a while yet I assume

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 5 November 2020 14:57 (three years ago) link

got my copy of Shadow, Thief of the Sun

yay

although

I don't understand why it's a 3LP with two blank sides, rather than the 2LP it claimed to be ...

lukas, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:18 (three years ago) link

Mine is 2LP FWIW.

Freeze Instr., Wednesday, 18 November 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link

That's strange that you got a 3LP version. mine is 2LP too.

stirmonster, Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:13 (three years ago) link

Yeah it's a 2LP with three sides of music and one blank side.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Wednesday, 18 November 2020 19:55 (three years ago) link

hoping this shows up on the West Coast in the next week or so

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 19 November 2020 01:57 (three years ago) link

I thought maybe the two single-sided discs would be identical, but no. I'll post pictures of the label art later.

lukas, Thursday, 19 November 2020 03:27 (three years ago) link

Did you order multiple records? I got two 2LPs but the 4 overall discs were split into 2 packages, one with 1 disc the other with 3. I panicked because I thought I was missing a disc and emailed VOD but figured out they just moving the v records around to cut down the shipping cost.

ed.b, Thursday, 19 November 2020 12:17 (three years ago) link

ohhhh that could be it, yeah

lukas, Thursday, 19 November 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Are you sure about the above, sleeve? Having now listened to The End... I don't think it's the same as Music from a Spaghetti Western.

― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, November 5, 2020 4:37 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

not 100%, but there's a sample in the latter that has the title of the former? my box won't be here for a while yet I assume

― howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, November 5, 2020 6:57 AM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

I was wrong, and it isn't. totally riveted right now on my first listen.

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 26 November 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link

Russian Heterodoxical Songs is astonishing, a worthy addition to the canon right in between JAI and LIM

howls of non-specificity (sleeve), Thursday, 26 November 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Listen to Misteltan (Live Winter Solstice 2019) by :zoviet*france: on #SoundCloud
https://soundcloud.app.goo.gl/4KEVj

hands in the air ambient

lukas, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link

two months pass...

Châsse 3

<3 <3 <3

Most beautiful and integrated package so far, no oddball 7"s or blank sides, just eight gorgeous double albums

I had not actually caught up with 7.10.12 or Tables Are Turning so I am enjoying those a lot

unreleased 2LP "A Long Walk" is good as well

lots and lots of perfectly executed lock grooves this time around

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 14 March 2022 17:56 (two years ago) link

yeah the fact that they had done a Motorhead cover was an interesting discovery.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:04 (two years ago) link

lol wait what? I missed that somehow

thinkmanship (sleeve), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:05 (two years ago) link

Bomber, it's on the Third Collusion album that mops up various tracks originally released on singles, compilations etc.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Monday, 14 March 2022 18:09 (two years ago) link

Somebody on Discogs has uploaded pictures of this release which have me salivating. Way out of my price range unfortunately but looks magnificent

I am using your worlds, Monday, 14 March 2022 18:20 (two years ago) link

Bomber, it's on the Third Collusion album that mops up various tracks originally released on singles, compilations etc.

my brain is exploding that they covered it, though listening now on YT and of course they "cover" it as only ZF could.

waiting for this still, but very, very happy that "The Decriminalisation Of Country Music - Themes For Tramway" is finally on vinyl. i was at the live performance they did of it in Glasgow.

i was hoping they would include "Patina Pooling" in this box so i could offload my copy as it is flaking bits of rust all over the place.

stirmonster, Monday, 14 March 2022 20:19 (two years ago) link

xp the albums are being released as individual 2LP standalone as well, 24 euros + shipping via VOD website

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:50 (two years ago) link

Their podcast, "A Duck in a Tree," is worth a listen.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:52 (two years ago) link

absolutely

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:53 (two years ago) link

lotta cool stuff on their Soundcloud as well

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 00:53 (two years ago) link

I loved Popular Soviet Songs and Youth Music from 1985, and the 2004 cd edition was fantastic, bound between two round gray felt pieces cut from black market Red Army caps, and held together with a Soviet military pin

Dan S, Tuesday, 15 March 2022 01:17 (two years ago) link

lotta cool stuff on their Soundcloud as well

Yes, including a 2018 live recording from Kyiv which they've made available free but are requesting donations for Ukraine disaster relief.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 15 March 2022 06:21 (two years ago) link

this is blowing my mind still, from the Rapoon thread:

Some of the late 80's - early 90's ZF records were Robin Storey solo with other members just contributing artwork... A Flock of Rotations, Assault and Mirage, Shouting at the Ground, Just an Illusion and Shadow, Thief of the Sun, at the very least.

really? is this confirmed anywhere? so ben ponton only contributed artwork to these???

― stirmonster, Wednesday, March 16, 2022 5:25 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Info was on the now-dead unofficial ZF website which had detailed music/production/artwork credits for the whole discography.

― atonar, Thursday, March 17, 2022 5:40 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Found it on archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20120320095815/http://www.the-edge.ws/zoviet/disc.html

― atonar, Thursday, March 17, 2022 5:45 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Had also heard this at the time from the person who ran DOVe who released 'Shadow...' - arguments around credit and attribution were largely the cause of the fracturing of the group. In any case you can hear the pretty sharp change in sound from 1992 on.

― atonar, Thursday, March 17, 2022 5:50 AM (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

thanks for the link - fascinating!

93's What Is Not True is one of my very favourite ZF releases but it's undeniable that it is a radical change of sound.

― stirmonster, Thursday, March 17, 2022 6:13 AM (five days ago)

thinkmanship (sleeve), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:02 (two years ago) link

Storey talks a bit more about it in this interview:

https://web.archive.org/web/20010218131126/http://www.pretentious.net/Rapoon/articles/tdr.htm

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 22 March 2022 16:36 (two years ago) link

lol what

I will prob never hear these, but it's a cool idea

via their FB:

Our first NFT (non-fungible tape)
By speeding them up by a factor of several hundred and using extreme audio compression, we've discovered that the entirety of our unreleased recordings will fit onto this 3-minute loop cassette. This will be made available as a one-off exclusive release of its own that will be sold in a private auction tomorrow. The cassette will come with details on the the speed factor used and an explanation of how to decompress the audio. Once sold, these recordings will never be made available again.
To register your interest in participating in the auction, please add your name as a comment on this post.

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 1 April 2022 15:12 (two years ago) link

dude, check the date

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Friday, 1 April 2022 15:41 (two years ago) link

ahahaha got me

thinkmanship (sleeve), Friday, 1 April 2022 16:17 (two years ago) link


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