US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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and i hope they stay there

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

I like nuts!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

It's up to the Bernienuts now

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Bernie Planters

Evan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

can everyone be quiet, i'm trying to listen to the campaign ads for next year

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

hey guys, anything going on today in american politics

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:29 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

my friend is suing the trump administration (along with the SPLC and some other orgs), not sure what else is happening?????

gbx, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

lmao there's a rally tonight

I think yesterday Trump pretty much directly called for Schiff to be murdered so it's gonna be...uh...interesting to see what he comes up with tonight

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

I heard like three seconds this morning in which some R guy said exactly this: "Republicans have not been able to subpoena documents or call witnesses"

Um my dude are you literally SIMULTANEOUSLY saying that you want to subpoena documents / call witnesses AND allowing Rs to ignore subpoenas and refuse to testify?

The hypocrisy would burn except we are now all so used to it that it's just a dull, tedious ache.

Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

Rep. Collins off to a rip-roaring start with “irregardless.”

It’s the President’s party!

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

I know its important to point this stuff out but the GOP & their voters will defend literally anything this party does no matter how idiotic or cruel the argument. remember these are the people who still claim 3 million illegal immigrants voted in 2016 & that Christine Blasey Ford was sexually assaulted by **someone** but there's no possible way to know who and it definitely is not the dude with the reputation for being blackout drunk all the time

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

This shit is so tiresome. Who wrote that memo? https://t.co/fxcEfdOMlp

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) December 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

telling yr kids the presidency is "sacred" is mean

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

If they feel provoked and put on the defensive, they dig in their heels even further so that the opposition does not get the satisfaction. That's all they care about. It doesn't matter what is being argued or how arbitrary it even is for them to draw a line in the sand in regards to "dem stance" "GOP stance" depending on the context.

xxp

Evan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

Dem stance: (reasoned position which one may or may not find agreeable depending on one's ideological perspective)
GOP stance: (feces-streaked maniac frantically jerks off onto a hamburger)

Let us now regard these stances with equal respect, as the founders would have wanted.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Both sides bitches

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

This is pretty underwhelming.

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

I wish democrats used the impeachment trial as a way to showcase stuff that would be more embarrassing for republicans to have to defend. But maybe that was impossible.

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

Would love to know what infractions we could confront the shame-free GOP with that makes them hang their heads in shame and say 'I done a bad, bad thing'.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

Kompromat, presumably

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

the republicans have moved well past troubling themselves to be embarrassed about their party or its positions

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Treeship, you can't shame the shameless.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

(stifling sobs with limited success) 'At long last, I must admit that I...I have left no sense of decency, sir.'

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

-Bob Marley no living Republican

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

“...When Jesus was falsely accused of Treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers. During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus, than Democrats have afforded this president in this process.” #ShamImpeachment pic.twitter.com/n8FZRe64eo

— Barry Loudermilk (@RepLoudermilk) December 18, 2019

not sure where they go from here

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

I wish democrats used the impeachment trial as a way to showcase stuff that would be more embarrassing for republicans to have to defend. But maybe that was impossible.

That's Impossible has been trademarked by Dem leadership

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

btw lol that Jesus was "falsely accused", pretty sure claiming to be King of the Jews was an affront to Caesar

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

To all of the republicans who have taken to rending their garments over the unfairness of Trump undergoing impeachment proceedings which, because the outcome is ultimately in the hands of the GOP, will result in nothing more punitive than a degree of mild inconvenience, might I offer the counterproposal of just having the president melted down in an industrial-sized vat of acid?

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

but is it a fact that he's rapidly declining and his handlers are becoming aware etc?

Check out this exchange I had with then private citizen @realDonaldTrump on Oct. 15, 2008. We spoke about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and he then offered his thoughts about impeachment. pic.twitter.com/mXlsG9SjbB

— Wolf Blitzer (@wolfblitzer) December 18, 2019

insecurity bear (sic), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

Man, that fake news is getting more sophisticated every day! I can barely distinguish it from the genuine article anymore.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:08 (four years ago) link

It's a cliche to say so, but, my god, he once spoke in coherent, intelligible English.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

pretty sure claiming to be King of the Jews was an affront to Caesar

Being the Messiah, according to the Messianic beliefs of his era, would have also required his being the King of the Jews. This is the reason why the gospels include an elaborate genealogy to prove Jesus was a direct descendent of David. As unreliable as the gospels are as biography, it appears Jesus was very circumspect about making direct outright claims to be the Messiah, but he frequently spoke about "his father in heaven" and let people draw the obvious conclusion. Come to think, this makes him a lot like Trump and his 'do us a favor, though'.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

I guess freebasing unchallenged entitlement and virulent racism for years does the same thing to your brain that meth does to your face, huh.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link

how the fuck is ‘barry loudermilk’ a real name

WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

Democrat Trump in above clip

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

xpost Give him a break, he had it legally changed from Diarrhea McBowels.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

I'll never understand how democrats failed to incessantly bash voters over the head with that old interview clip of Trump praising Hillary. And I guess I should prepare myself for basically no one ever seeing this clip, either.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

"Look, I said nice things about her before! Cause we were such great friends! She's so mean to me, very nasty. Why doesn't she ever say anything nice?"

Simon H., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:30 (four years ago) link

True story: there is a White House staffer going around the Senate delivering to each office, as a package, the incoherent, scathing Pelosi letter AND...wait for it...a giant 16x12 White House Christmas card (along with, implausibly, a second smaller Christmas card).

What a day. pic.twitter.com/y8gZuQbipl

— Chris Murphy (@ChrisMurphyCT) December 18, 2019

Pete Swine Cave (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link

there is also a tiny, microscopic card that is included in the package, if chris murphy had bothered using the oversized magnifying glass that was included as part of his birthday gift from earlier in the year

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link

wait does Melania have the exact same signature as Donald?

brownie, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

or this that not her name there or waht

brownie, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:39 (four years ago) link

It's just that they're both such fitness nuts that they only sign things while using one of those vibrating belt exercisers.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link

are we looking at a 9-10pm vote ET?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

It's a cliche to say so, but, my god, he once spoke in coherent, intelligible English.

Come on. That clip isn't that different from him today. He's still using a sixth-grade vocabulary and his logic is still 100% transactional/bullying, he's just less shouty, and he's saying things the people sharing that tweet around agree with.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

435 representatives x 5 minutes each would be over 182 hours, so let us all be glad there are less expansive limits to the permitted speechifying.

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

it would "only" be a little over 36 hours, but yes, that too would unbearable! i have a high threshold for this stuff and i had trouble keeping it on for longer than few minutes at a time.

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

yup, I messed up my math on that. thx for the correction

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

Honest question: what would the GOP ask the whistleblower if they appeared? Why is having the whistleblower as a witness such a bugaboo for them?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link

Morbs' boy Doug Henwood gets roasted here.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link


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