K. Harris:
Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi (which, like all pop culture anyone notices these days, was both overrated and over-hated) floated the heretical notion that the past could be left behind. What if a hero could rise who was free of the familial psychodrama of the Lucas era, a true nobody (yes, one with immense mystical powers, but stay with me here) who could make her own way in the galaxy? What stories could be told if Star Wars finally said to hell with Joseph Campbell and this damn quasi-aristocratic cadre of genetically blessed superhumans trapped in their never-ending cycle of betrayal and redemption?
We’ll never know. Abrams backtracks shamelessly (imagine if we’d learned in Return of the Jedi that Darth Vader had lied and wasn’t really Luke’s father) and reasserts that there is but one Star Wars story. By resurrecting Palpatine, the movie acknowledges that the past is a source of elemental evil, but primarily as a means for us to discover that tradition can bestow wonderfully redemptive powers as well. The system works.
What The Rise of Skywalker really celebrates is itself, as well as Abrams’ completion of his difficult mission in a way that will satisfy true Star Wars believers and his bosses. When the film closes with Rey choosing to name herself after the heroes who preceded her, the film’s capitulation to Star Wars tradition feels so craven yet smug that I’m surprised Abrams didn’t list himself in the credits as J.J. Lucas.
http://citypages.com/movies/well-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-one-way-to-end-this-mess/566298061
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:13 (four years ago) link
they PROBABLY would have come out the gate with more of an MCU-type structure
thank Obi-Wan for small mercies
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
oh so we have spoilers here now anyway
― nashwan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
"grim resignation" is in the thread title but i didn't imagine it'd describe the end of the movie
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:20 (four years ago) link
yeah thx Alfred, not paying to see this now.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:23 (four years ago) link
Mission accomplished *Palpatine cackle*
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
c'monnn alfred, man, i'm deliberately not bookmarking the spoilers thread
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
imagine if we’d learned in Return of the Jedi that Darth Vader had lied and wasn’t really Luke’s father
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, December 18, 2019
I genuinely didn't see the other thread! Also, I genuinely underestimated people's aversion to spoilers; they've never stopped me from seeing or not seeing anything.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
^ either uncharacteristically myopic or willfully, puckishly perverse, not sure which. People avoiding SW spoilers, you say? Why, I had no idea!
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
that's a lot of adverbs for me to scan without my contacts!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:09 (four years ago) link
Alfred nudging his friend with a 'watch this' twinkle in his eye as he walks out of an ESB screening and past a throng of people eagerly waiting to see what exciting revelations this new chapter will hold.
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link
SW film goes reactionary w/ f*n s*rvice, film at 11 (god what a hideous term)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:17 (four years ago) link
more like "Sotosyn stumbling out of The Two Popes wondering what cantrips he can cast that will make the Adriatic and Mediterranean rise just enough to destroy Vatican City."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:18 (four years ago) link
ROTJ already kind of did a complete backtrack from the scope and darkness of Empire Strikes Back so in a way this is rhyming, it’s true poetry.
― omar little, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SilkyRepulsiveFallowdeer-small.gif
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
In this movie, the Emperor shoots electricity out his butt
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
LOL @ posting spoilers immediately after like six posts from people about avoiding spoilers, what a thread
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
Zombie Samuel L. shows up to give Palpatine a force bolt facelift, undoing all that unsightly prunefacery he caused back in the day, perhaps giving him back those creepy old chimp eyes while he's at it.
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
Xpost mine most def isn't...i hope
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
A New Pope
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
you’ve been talking about movies on the internet for like 15 years now, come on
anyway I’m sure I’ll forget that once I actually get around to seeing this
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
I...liked this! Ridiculous, overstuffed, fan-servicey and epic at the best of times ( Abrams grew a sense of scale that extends beyond a couple of shots!). Right now it's my fave of the new 3.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link
Jar Jar appear?
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:53 (four years ago) link
Sadly for you...no.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link
100% That Binks
― nashwan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link
Lol
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
Everybody getting all crestfallen about the absence of Jar Jar can take heart that there's still plenty of Boss Nass in this film, including an entire dance sequence set to the B-Boys' 'Sure Shot' (as is the Abrams way).
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link
I know it's evoked on occasion, but it still needs to be explicitly pointed out now and again: this movie was directed by someone who put a Beastie Boys song in each of the Star Trek movies he directed. That actually happened.
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:17 AM (two hours ago)
Morbs it'll fascinate you to (perhaps) learn that "fan service" didn't originally mean "stuff fans want" it specifically meant "pointless T&A in anime"
― Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
i don't recognize that distinction
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
tomato tomato
― american bradass (BradNelson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:46 (four years ago) link
^ crude-yet-effective description of fanservice
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
I thought it meant "Jake Gyllenhaal, meet me for an Old-Fashioned."
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link
I guess at the end of the day fanservice comes down to how you like your tomatoes.
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
an old fashioned what, one may wonder
― mh, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link
http://www.sparklesintheeveryday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Gluten-Free-Old-Fashioned-Tomato-Relish.jpg
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
Call me old fashioned, but there's nothing I relish like a hot tomata'!
(This has been the 'star wars 9 grim resignation' thread, only on ILX.)
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link
Do plenty people go for Tomata?
― ☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
What is this diarrhea
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
-Peter Travers
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link
You know your Star War has gone south when you've lost Rolling Stone.
― Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
#CATSMovie first reactions call it "way too horny" and "bewildering"https://t.co/PLEU1IRoWR pic.twitter.com/zgjmIrFo8w— MirrorMovies (@MirrorMovies) December 17, 2019
― Simon H., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link
"Five stars, purrrfect."
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link
Can a movie be too horny?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:09 (four years ago) link
can a movie about cats with human tits be too horny
― insecurity bear (sic), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:14 (four years ago) link
I don't think so
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
if you touch meYou'll understandWhat happiness is
― Bublé in the changer, I was I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 00:16 (four years ago) link
First leaked scene from Cats:
https://media.giphy.com/media/11sYjstB0hOL04/giphy.gif
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link
Does Jason DeRulo sing his character's name over and over
― Bublé in the changer, I wish I was dead (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 December 2019 01:11 (four years ago) link