star wars 9 grim resignation thread

removing bookmark, see y'all late friday

I think it was always a stupid gamble. But in a better world, they'd have a Solo trilogy going, a succesfull trilogy from Abrams, Johnson and Trevorrow, with probably both Abrams and Johnson being told to build on that succes in their own little corners of the galaxy. And then some sort of big big story on the horizon, where Poe and Finn and Rey were going to team up again.

No that's wrong, that's a far worse world, sorry.

Seeing this tomorrow afternoon - will try to hold off spoilers until the weekend tho

We should go ahead and start a separate thread for spoilers and postmortem shit talk

it is probably true that without the history of star wars as a "trilogy" series, and the living legacy actors to further reinforce that sense of history, they PROBABLY would have come out the gate with more of an MCU-type structure in mind, and maybe the payoffs would have been bigger. but they didn't and so now IX is freighted with having to be the biggest super-payoff ever, which always seemed unlikely to deliver since they took Johnson off of it.

star wars 9 spoilers and postmortem shit talk

good idea:

In the four years since the sequel trilogy began, I don't think I've read a single article focused on how the new films are being recieved by children.

— Osita Nwanevu (@OsitaNwanevu) December 18, 2019

I kinda wrote one back in 2016, lol

Wow, I'd completely forgotten that article. I wrote that the antagonists were too young, and that the films therefore wouldn't be as alluring for children. Then I wrote a political allegory where The First Order was ISIS and the Resistance was Blackwater.

K. Harris:

Rian Johnson’s The Last Jedi (which, like all pop culture anyone notices these days, was both overrated and over-hated) floated the heretical notion that the past could be left behind. What if a hero could rise who was free of the familial psychodrama of the Lucas era, a true nobody (yes, one with immense mystical powers, but stay with me here) who could make her own way in the galaxy? What stories could be told if Star Wars finally said to hell with Joseph Campbell and this damn quasi-aristocratic cadre of genetically blessed superhumans trapped in their never-ending cycle of betrayal and redemption?

We’ll never know. Abrams backtracks shamelessly (imagine if we’d learned in Return of the Jedi that Darth Vader had lied and wasn’t really Luke’s father) and reasserts that there is but one Star Wars story. By resurrecting Palpatine, the movie acknowledges that the past is a source of elemental evil, but primarily as a means for us to discover that tradition can bestow wonderfully redemptive powers as well. The system works.

What The Rise of Skywalker really celebrates is itself, as well as Abrams’ completion of his difficult mission in a way that will satisfy true Star Wars believers and his bosses. When the film closes with Rey choosing to name herself after the heroes who preceded her, the film’s capitulation to Star Wars tradition feels so craven yet smug that I’m surprised Abrams didn’t list himself in the credits as J.J. Lucas.

http://citypages.com/movies/well-star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-is-one-way-to-end-this-mess/566298061

they PROBABLY would have come out the gate with more of an MCU-type structure

thank Obi-Wan for small mercies

oh so we have spoilers here now anyway

"grim resignation" is in the thread title but i didn't imagine it'd describe the end of the movie

yeah thx Alfred, not paying to see this now.

Mission accomplished *Palpatine cackle*

c'monnn alfred, man, i'm deliberately not bookmarking the spoilers thread

imagine if we’d learned in Return of the Jedi that Darth Vader had lied and wasn’t really Luke’s father

c'monnn alfred, man, i'm deliberately not bookmarking the spoilers thread

― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, December 18, 2019

I genuinely didn't see the other thread! Also, I genuinely underestimated people's aversion to spoilers; they've never stopped me from seeing or not seeing anything.

^ either uncharacteristically myopic or willfully, puckishly perverse, not sure which. People avoiding SW spoilers, you say? Why, I had no idea!

that's a lot of adverbs for me to scan without my contacts!

Alfred nudging his friend with a 'watch this' twinkle in his eye as he walks out of an ESB screening and past a throng of people eagerly waiting to see what exciting revelations this new chapter will hold.

SW film goes reactionary w/ f*n s*rvice, film at 11 (god what a hideous term)

more like "Sotosyn stumbling out of The Two Popes wondering what cantrips he can cast that will make the Adriatic and Mediterranean rise just enough to destroy Vatican City."

ROTJ already kind of did a complete backtrack from the scope and darkness of Empire Strikes Back so in a way this is rhyming, it’s true poetry.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SilkyRepulsiveFallowdeer-small.gif

In this movie, the Emperor shoots electricity out his butt

LOL @ posting spoilers immediately after like six posts from people about avoiding spoilers, what a thread

Zombie Samuel L. shows up to give Palpatine a force bolt facelift, undoing all that unsightly prunefacery he caused back in the day, perhaps giving him back those creepy old chimp eyes while he's at it.

Xpost mine most def isn't...i hope

A New Pope

you’ve been talking about movies on the internet for like 15 years now, come on

anyway I’m sure I’ll forget that once I actually get around to seeing this

I...liked this! Ridiculous, overstuffed, fan-servicey and epic at the best of times ( Abrams grew a sense of scale that extends beyond a couple of shots!). Right now it's my fave of the new 3.

Jar Jar appear?

Sadly for you...no.

100% That Binks

Lol

Everybody getting all crestfallen about the absence of Jar Jar can take heart that there's still plenty of Boss Nass in this film, including an entire dance sequence set to the B-Boys' 'Sure Shot' (as is the Abrams way).

I know it's evoked on occasion, but it still needs to be explicitly pointed out now and again: this movie was directed by someone who put a Beastie Boys song in each of the Star Trek movies he directed. That actually happened.

SW film goes reactionary w/ f*n s*rvice, film at 11 (god what a hideous term)

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:17 AM (two hours ago)

Morbs it'll fascinate you to (perhaps) learn that "fan service" didn't originally mean "stuff fans want" it specifically meant "pointless T&A in anime"

i don't recognize that distinction

tomato tomato

^ crude-yet-effective description of fanservice

I thought it meant "Jake Gyllenhaal, meet me for an Old-Fashioned."

I guess at the end of the day fanservice comes down to how you like your tomatoes.

an old fashioned what, one may wonder

http://www.sparklesintheeveryday.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Gluten-Free-Old-Fashioned-Tomato-Relish.jpg

Call me old fashioned, but there's nothing I relish like a hot tomata'!

(This has been the 'star wars 9 grim resignation' thread, only on ILX.)

Do plenty people go for Tomata?

What is this diarrhea