US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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"Trump sends fieryfarty letter to Pelosi"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

I'm not of that opinion.

akm, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

from the Trump missive:

Your chosen candidate lost the election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227)...

...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Cartogram%E2%80%942016_Electoral_Vote.svg/381px-Cartogram%E2%80%942016_Electoral_Vote.svg.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

TBF he "won" 306 but there were 2 faithless electors who voted for John Kasich & Ron Paul instead.

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

Yes, but by the same rule, Clinton won 232. There's no way he won 306 and she won 227.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

The Dems suck at 'messaging.' It comes from catering to their 'centrist' caucus.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMCB1nPUcAA6XP4.jpg

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

the trump letter is honestly pretty good.

More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.

he plays the hits

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

the trump letter is honestly pretty good.

More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.

he plays the hits

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

its the most purestrain Trump we've gotten in a while

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

cousin ashley i am disappoint

The day the Washington Post ran the headline on the left, Bill Clinton’s approval rating was in the 60s, as it had been all year.

The day the Washington Post ran the headlines on the left, Donald Trump’s approval rating was below 50, as it has been every day of his presidency. pic.twitter.com/3HVvytU1yG

— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) December 18, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

apples and oranges

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

If it's ok with Asshole, I'd be OK with the Senate approving Salem Witch Rules for this trial.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Bring back pressing.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

NYT:

The accusations, untruths and wayward exclamation points piled up by the paragraph.

Some of the president’s closest advisers were involved in drafting the letter, but they did not include Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel who will play a large role in a Senate trial.

Instead, Eric Ueland, the director of the Office of Legislative Affairs, led the process, with input from Stephen Miller, the president’s top policy adviser, who often scripts many of Mr. Trump’s public remarks.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

hey guys, anything going on today in american politics

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

i see what u didn't do there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

The minute I saw the strings of triple adjectives I knew that letter had been pulled out of Miller's sulfurous asshole.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Who knew the "C" in "C-Span" stood for coup? This is the most unfair process ever! We had no witnesses! Schiff and the Whistleblower and Hunter should testify! There is nothing wrong with the phone call! This is so partisan it hurts, have you no sense of decency or comity? We saw no documents, not a single one, this was all done in secret! This is tearing the whole country apart!

There, I saved you all the trouble of listening to the GOP response.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

You say that like I was planning on listening to the GOP response in the first place

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

I will say, glancing at the coverage of people speechifying, that it is sort of refreshing to see some unfamiliar faces for once, even if I want to punch many of them. Surprised the GOP didn't try to shoehorn Nunes and Jordan into this spectacle, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

xpost It is admittedly challenging muting and unmuting in more or less five-minute intervals.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

likely nothin that will matter goin on

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

ILX in a nutshell.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

the Democratic Party in a nutshell

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

and i hope they stay there

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

I like nuts!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link

It's up to the Bernienuts now

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link

Bernie Planters

Evan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

can everyone be quiet, i'm trying to listen to the campaign ads for next year

Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link

hey guys, anything going on today in american politics

― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, December 18, 2019 8:29 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

my friend is suing the trump administration (along with the SPLC and some other orgs), not sure what else is happening?????

gbx, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link

lmao there's a rally tonight

I think yesterday Trump pretty much directly called for Schiff to be murdered so it's gonna be...uh...interesting to see what he comes up with tonight

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link

I heard like three seconds this morning in which some R guy said exactly this: "Republicans have not been able to subpoena documents or call witnesses"

Um my dude are you literally SIMULTANEOUSLY saying that you want to subpoena documents / call witnesses AND allowing Rs to ignore subpoenas and refuse to testify?

The hypocrisy would burn except we are now all so used to it that it's just a dull, tedious ache.

Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link

Rep. Collins off to a rip-roaring start with “irregardless.”

It’s the President’s party!

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link

I know its important to point this stuff out but the GOP & their voters will defend literally anything this party does no matter how idiotic or cruel the argument. remember these are the people who still claim 3 million illegal immigrants voted in 2016 & that Christine Blasey Ford was sexually assaulted by **someone** but there's no possible way to know who and it definitely is not the dude with the reputation for being blackout drunk all the time

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:26 (four years ago) link

This shit is so tiresome. Who wrote that memo? https://t.co/fxcEfdOMlp

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) December 18, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

telling yr kids the presidency is "sacred" is mean

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

If they feel provoked and put on the defensive, they dig in their heels even further so that the opposition does not get the satisfaction. That's all they care about. It doesn't matter what is being argued or how arbitrary it even is for them to draw a line in the sand in regards to "dem stance" "GOP stance" depending on the context.

xxp

Evan, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

Dem stance: (reasoned position which one may or may not find agreeable depending on one's ideological perspective)
GOP stance: (feces-streaked maniac frantically jerks off onto a hamburger)

Let us now regard these stances with equal respect, as the founders would have wanted.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Both sides bitches

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link

This is pretty underwhelming.

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link

I wish democrats used the impeachment trial as a way to showcase stuff that would be more embarrassing for republicans to have to defend. But maybe that was impossible.

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

Would love to know what infractions we could confront the shame-free GOP with that makes them hang their heads in shame and say 'I done a bad, bad thing'.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link

Kompromat, presumably

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

the republicans have moved well past troubling themselves to be embarrassed about their party or its positions

A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

Treeship, you can't shame the shameless.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:21 (four years ago) link

(stifling sobs with limited success) 'At long last, I must admit that I...I have left no sense of decency, sir.'

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link

-Bob Marley no living Republican

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

“...When Jesus was falsely accused of Treason, Pontius Pilate gave Jesus the opportunity to face his accusers. During that sham trial, Pontius Pilate afforded more rights to Jesus, than Democrats have afforded this president in this process.” #ShamImpeachment pic.twitter.com/n8FZRe64eo

— Barry Loudermilk (@RepLoudermilk) December 18, 2019

not sure where they go from here

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link


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