US Politics, December 2019: Profound procedural deficiencies

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it may not be comforting to imagine effortfulness on his part

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

At the very least it underscores just how much the idea of getting impeached gets under his skin. He could just stay silent (hah) wait until the senate shit is done, then write an in-your-face screed (which he will anyway), but going full-bore like that means he's bristling at getting (another) asterisk attached to his name.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

Does Steele's friendship with Ivanka undermine his credibility? Does t feel this way about any of his daughter's other friends. Is it just jealousy?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

it may not be comforting to imagine effortfulness on his part

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius)

especially on the toilet after another KFC chicken bucket.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

I can't imagine he has read an entire book from start to finish in decades, including those he published under his own name.

Based on his interviews, correspondence and biographical profiles over the last four decades, All Quiet On The Western Front is either the last book he read, or the only book he has ever read.

insecurity bear (sic), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

xpost President Porcelaincracker

Yeah yeah, I know, it's definitely a good thing that he's a pathologically lazy and incurious and ineffectual fleshpile. It's just, y'know, a goddamn travesty that someone who fits that description has the entire goddamn country wrapped around his tiny little finger.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

I’d love to see a letter back from Pelosi that reads in its entirety:

“Mr. President, it is not the ‘Democrat’ Party. The word is Democratic.

Good day, sir.”

Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

Memo to Nancy Pelosi. Drop the "Good day, sir." It's petulant. Use "I continue to pray for you every day" instead. He hates that.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

now imagine that thing in an anthology next to

https://s3.amazonaws.com/loa-production-23ffs35gui41a/volumes/images/000/000/452/listing/9781598530537.jpg?1447174672

j., Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

I've seen more well-composed fourth grade book reports.

Children Devouring Their Cronuts (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

his lie-detector signature is still the best punchline to anything official with his name on it

rob, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

lol there is no way in all the possible worlds that trump knows what the star chamber is

j., Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link

It's his nickname for "seventh floor bathroom" in the Trump Doral iirc

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

so he's definitely getting impeached tomorrow, correct?

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link

Oh, it's on.

henry s, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link

Drinks at my place!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

he is definitely getting impeached tomorrow but who even cares at this point. though it's kind of nice to know that he's freaked out about it, despite the practially non-zero chance the senate will do a thing about this.

akm, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

Why is it journalistic convention to refer to the language in texts like Trump's letter as "scathing"? Doesn't that imply rhetorical effectiveness?

eatandoph (Neue Jesse Schule), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 21:58 (four years ago) link

the headline I'm seeing is "Trump sends fiery letter to Pelosi" which is just lmao

amazing that after 4 years of this the media either has no clue how to cover Trump or just can't be bothered to do it properly, like the way they constantly write articles that start with "The White House is considering blah blah blah" when its abundantly clear that "we're looking into it" is Trumpspeak for "I have no idea what you're talking about"

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

Has there been even one instance in this administration of "we're going to be looking into it" where "it" clearly got looked into?

henry s, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

they're looking into that

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

he is definitely getting impeached tomorrow but who even cares at this point. though it's kind of nice to know that he's freaked out about it, despite the practially non-zero chance the senate will do a thing about this.

― akm, Tuesday, December 17, 2019 4:51 PM bookmarkflaglink

Why are you still of the opinion that there was only a point to impeachment if removal was guaranteed?

100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

Why is it journalistic convention... Doesn't that imply rhetorical effectiveness?

The journalistic convention being followed here is that, no matter what, the president must be regarded as as a functioning, capable human being. The Trump they are referring to there not the real Trump, but America's imaginary friend.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

"Trump sends fieryfarty letter to Pelosi"

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

I'm not of that opinion.

akm, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link

from the Trump missive:

Your chosen candidate lost the election in 2016, in an Electoral College landslide (306-227)...

...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Cartogram%E2%80%942016_Electoral_Vote.svg/381px-Cartogram%E2%80%942016_Electoral_Vote.svg.png

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

TBF he "won" 306 but there were 2 faithless electors who voted for John Kasich & Ron Paul instead.

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

Yes, but by the same rule, Clinton won 232. There's no way he won 306 and she won 227.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 00:57 (four years ago) link

The Dems suck at 'messaging.' It comes from catering to their 'centrist' caucus.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 01:13 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EMCB1nPUcAA6XP4.jpg

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:00 (four years ago) link

the trump letter is honestly pretty good.

More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.

he plays the hits

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

the trump letter is honestly pretty good.

More due process was afforded to those accused in the Salem Witch Trials.

he plays the hits

treeship., Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link

its the most purestrain Trump we've gotten in a while

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 03:51 (four years ago) link

cousin ashley i am disappoint

The day the Washington Post ran the headline on the left, Bill Clinton’s approval rating was in the 60s, as it had been all year.

The day the Washington Post ran the headlines on the left, Donald Trump’s approval rating was below 50, as it has been every day of his presidency. pic.twitter.com/3HVvytU1yG

— Jamison Foser (@jamisonfoser) December 18, 2019

mookieproof, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 04:03 (four years ago) link

apples and oranges

oncle rasélonguebite (crüt), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link

If it's ok with Asshole, I'd be OK with the Senate approving Salem Witch Rules for this trial.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link

Bring back pressing.

tokyo rosemary, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

NYT:

The accusations, untruths and wayward exclamation points piled up by the paragraph.

Some of the president’s closest advisers were involved in drafting the letter, but they did not include Pat A. Cipollone, the White House counsel who will play a large role in a Senate trial.

Instead, Eric Ueland, the director of the Office of Legislative Affairs, led the process, with input from Stephen Miller, the president’s top policy adviser, who often scripts many of Mr. Trump’s public remarks.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link

hey guys, anything going on today in american politics

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

i see what u didn't do there

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:41 (four years ago) link

The minute I saw the strings of triple adjectives I knew that letter had been pulled out of Miller's sulfurous asshole.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

Who knew the "C" in "C-Span" stood for coup? This is the most unfair process ever! We had no witnesses! Schiff and the Whistleblower and Hunter should testify! There is nothing wrong with the phone call! This is so partisan it hurts, have you no sense of decency or comity? We saw no documents, not a single one, this was all done in secret! This is tearing the whole country apart!

There, I saved you all the trouble of listening to the GOP response.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

You say that like I was planning on listening to the GOP response in the first place

totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

I will say, glancing at the coverage of people speechifying, that it is sort of refreshing to see some unfamiliar faces for once, even if I want to punch many of them. Surprised the GOP didn't try to shoehorn Nunes and Jordan into this spectacle, too.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link

xpost It is admittedly challenging muting and unmuting in more or less five-minute intervals.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 15:59 (four years ago) link

likely nothin that will matter goin on

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link

ILX in a nutshell.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link

the Democratic Party in a nutshell

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link

and i hope they stay there

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link


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