The Karate Kid...lets discuss the greatness.

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Just bought the Karate Kid boxed set as I'm a geek. The first movie is a childhood favorite. The second one, well it has an awesome Peter Cetera song....

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Sunday, 21 June 2009 20:51 (ten years ago) link

Best part of the second one is the first scene, which picks up after the end of the first movie. After that, not so great.

I think I may have seen the third movie, but I don't remember anything about it. And I'm pretty sure I never saw the one with Hilary Swank.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 21 June 2009 23:17 (ten years ago) link

six months pass...

Just saw the trailer for the new KK movie, starring Will Smith Jr.

Wow, it looks dumb. But, for consistency's sake, I will say this - from neither Reseda, or Beijing, can they get to where they do their "picturesque" training sequence without the use of a car.

In the original, you're driving at least 30 min to get to Malibu, and, depending on where in Beijing you are, you're driving at least an hour to an hour and a half to get to the section of the Great Wall where they filmed the training (looks like Badaling, which is where every tourist goes, so it would never be as empty as it is in the trailer).

Clerk all KNOWIN (B.L.A.M.), Wednesday, 23 December 2009 21:23 (ten years ago) link

I recently caught the end of Karate Kid II on tv and was blown away by the 5-minute long seen where the girl he wants to boing serves him tea/miso in a very ritualistic fashion, which he mimics in turn, before climaxing in a kiss so passionate that it instantly triggers a typhoon.

Quiet, I'm making my Youtube Star Wars Review (Z S), Thursday, 24 December 2009 01:57 (ten years ago) link


Quiet, I'm making my Youtube Star Wars Review (Z S), Thursday, 24 December 2009 01:57 (ten years ago) link

iirc the stoltz gay kiss comes immediately before this

Quiet, I'm making my Youtube Star Wars Review (Z S), Thursday, 24 December 2009 02:13 (ten years ago) link

I wonder if you can pull "the karate kid" kick off in a real tournament without getting your ass kicked in the parking lot later

Quiet, I'm making my Youtube Star Wars Review (Z S), Thursday, 24 December 2009 02:14 (ten years ago) link

wait so jackie chan is teaching him karate in china?

Nhex, Thursday, 24 December 2009 02:57 (ten years ago) link

There is a minor bit of controversy around that, since last year Jackie said that it would be retitled The Kung Fu Kid, which Will Smith later refuted.

kingkongvsgodzilla, Thursday, 24 December 2009 11:49 (ten years ago) link

two months pass...

They could use the Bat For Lashes song "Daniel" on the soundtrack, since the name is a reference to the Daniel character in the original Karate Kid.

I was trying to keep it a secret but I got my friend to paint Daniel Laruso from the film The Karate Kid on my back for the single front cover. I have had a crush on him for years and it's one of my all time favourite childhood films. So I think the name definitely came from that reference however the concept on the song is a little bit more secret.

o. nate, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:00 (nine years ago) link

wait so jackie chan is teaching him karate in china?

what a disaster for karate

Brad C., Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:03 (nine years ago) link

seeing a little too much of jayden's pinkett-smith there

da croupier, Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:11 (nine years ago) link

can't help but wonder how Jayden will stack up against Academy-Award-Winning horseface

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:13 (nine years ago) link

It seems like such a teen movie, I don't see how casting an 11 yr old is going to work.

ô_o (Nicole), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:17 (nine years ago) link


Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 19:18 (nine years ago) link

this kid was so unbearable in that wretched Day The Earth Stood Still movie

nitzer ENBB (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:16 (nine years ago) link

honestly one of the worst child actor performances i've ever seen.

nitzer ENBB (latebloomer), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:17 (nine years ago) link

^^^sounds like a poll

Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 24 February 2010 22:19 (nine years ago) link

It's so sad that Will Smith is so poor he has to force his child into working so early in life.

A Memorable Fancy (Abbott), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:26 (nine years ago) link

kids that don't work build up an unhealthy concentration of body thetans dontchaknow

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 20:31 (nine years ago) link

I never saw that him in anything else, but I thought the kid was decent in The Pursuit of Happyness.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:47 (nine years ago) link

you saw the Pursuit of Happyness

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 22:48 (nine years ago) link

the pursuit of peepeeness

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:01 (nine years ago) link

I did see it. I was told by several people I really trust that it was a "surprisingly good movie". I wouldn't go that far, but I didn't completely hate it.

you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:06 (nine years ago) link

I liked the performances in Happyness, mostly because it was a (will smith) movie and not a WILL SMITH movie.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:14 (nine years ago) link

too bad it wasn't a FRESH PRINCE movie

dead clown handjob (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:15 (nine years ago) link

midway through the movie Chris Tucker will show up in a OMG RUSH HOUR 4 TIE-IN SHOCKER...

Ballistic, Thursday, 25 February 2010 23:43 (nine years ago) link

one month passes...

just caught a montage of the final contest battles, and forgot how much i fucking loved this film. particularly the korean looking guy when he ducks under the other kid. and when he fights the fat man lol.

bracken free ditch (Ste), Tuesday, 13 April 2010 21:44 (nine years ago) link

two months pass...

that ending fucking tears me up EVERY TIME

Guru Meditation (Ste), Sunday, 11 July 2010 17:45 (nine years ago) link

Best thing about the remake by far: evil Chinese kid. Badass.

Simon H., Sunday, 11 July 2010 18:42 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...


The following is a public service announcement for die-hard fans of The Karate Kid. In 2005, Sony Pictures Home Entertainment released a perfectly respectable Special Edition DVD of the movie, which included a commentary track as well as several featurettes. But nothing on the DVD compares to the trove of archival footage that director John Avildsen has posted on his YouTube channel. Nestled among home videos of Avildsen’s vacations and birthday parties are a series of clips that, when watched in sequence, comprise a shadow version of The Karate Kid, one that will change the way you think about the movie—even if, like me, you’ve already thought about it a lot.

What Avildsen has posted, in 13 ten-minute segments, is the rehearsal that he and his actors conducted before principal photography began. The footage is grainy and wobbly. Much of it is shot on location, but several scenes unfold on a sparsely appointed soundstage, with the actors pretending to turn on an invisible leaky faucet or drink an invisible glass of pungent Okinawan tea. Some of the scenes closely resemble their counterparts in the finished film, but others remain rough, with Avildsen and his team still working out how to frame the action. We see alternate approaches to scenes we know and love from the finished product. We also hear Avildsen discussing the challenges each scene presents, offering suggestions to the actors and discussing camera set-ups with his crew. Perhaps most exciting of all, we see the actors rehearsing scenes that did not make it into the movie, and several of these provide insight into plot holes that have long frustrated students of the movie. (Among the questions addressed by the footage: How did Daniel’s mother end up working at a restaurant, not at a computer start-up? And how did Daniel prevail over Dutch in the early stages of the All-Valley Under-18 Karate Tournament?)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 3 August 2012 17:20 (seven years ago) link

five years pass...

Here’s how YouTube Red describes the series:

“Thirty years after the events of the 1984 All Valley Karate Tournament, a down-and-out Johnny Lawrence (Zabka) seeks redemption by reopening the infamous Cobra Kai karate dojo, reigniting his rivalry with a now successful Daniel LaRusso (Macchio), who has been struggling to maintain balance in his life without the guidance of his mentor, Mr. Miyagi. The show is about two men addressing past demons and present frustrations the only way they know how: through karate.”

conrad, Tuesday, 22 August 2017 08:15 (two years ago) link

it's for real

he Karate Kid rivalry between Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence is alive and well — and will now feature a new generation.

Hours after The Hollywood Reporter exclusively broke news of YouTube Red's 10-episode Karate Kid straight-to-series sequel Cobra Kai, stars Ralph Macchio (Daniel) and William Zabka (Johnny) met the press after making a surprise appearance Friday at the Television Critics Association's summer press tour.

The actors, who have remained friends in the 30 years since The Karate Kid became a pop culture staple, briefly appeared onstage in a faux pre-fight press conference face-off and spoke with reporters, including THR, at the conclusion of YouTube's time in front of press.

Macchio revealed that the concept for the series — which picks up 30 years after Daniel topped Johnny in the All Valley Karate Tournament to find both running rival dojos — is relevant today and speaks to a new generation. He gave credit to concept writers Josh Heald (Hot Tub Time Machine) as well as duo Jon Hurwitz and Hayden Schlossberg (Harold and Kumar) delivered in their initial pitch for Cobra Kai.

"What made me say yes after all these years — and I've been very protective of the franchise and where Daniel LaRusso sits in the world 30 years later — these guys, Josh, Hayden and Jon had such a smart and fresh angle in. It was relevant today yet had all the pop culture — they had the perfect marriage and angle in bringing it from the Johnny Lawrence [point of view]," he said. "It's not unlike how Creed was a film that was about Apollo Creed's son but you had Rocky Balboa in it in a certain way. [Cobra Kai] is not the first time anyone looks at a fresh angle from the villain's point of view, but it was just smart to go that way and to cover these dual lives and do a rivalry series in a smart and funny way, and on top of that infuse the high school world — which is a big part of the show as well — for the new generation."

Cobra Kai, which will debut in 2018, will explore Daniel as a father who is drawn back to the dojo when Johnny reopens Cobra Kai.

"Johnny befriends one [of Daniel's kids], and that is how it connects that world into our own rivalry world," Macchio said. "There's a tremendous amount of heart and kick-ass action sequences and martial arts, but the inherent humor comes from the fact that these are two guys who are in their 50s and still have an ax to grind. It goes back to those places where you just can't let go and you're still a teenager at heart and yet balancing your adult life — it's like the rise of the Cobra Kai. It's the worst nightmare for someone like Daniel LaRusso."

The actor — who has had multiple offers to step back into the dojo as Daniel over the years — said the absence of mentor Mr. Miyagi (the late Pat Morita) will be central to the show, which has both comedic and dramatic moments.

"In the early stages of us pitching to the networks, it was really important to me to have that element and that void that's in Daniel's life right now," he said of the series, which landed at subscription service YouTube Red after a multiple-network bidding war that included Netflix, Amazon, Hulu and others. "He used to train his oldest daughter when she was a kid, but now she's at the age where it's not as cool to hang out with dad. So there's a real void in his life when he doesn't have that. Mr. Miyagi is the human Yoda to young Luke Skywalker. So as an adult and a parent — my kids are in their 20s now — I would love to have had Mr. Miyagi's wisdom many times in raising my own kids. There's a piece of that void in his life that is going to resonate on the dramatic side of the show and where martial arts, [which] was such a piece of his adolescence and young adulthood, is now brought back by the nemesis raising the banner on the Cobra Kai. And now Daniel can't sit and let that happen."

To hear Zabka and Macchio tell it, both actors had trepidation about stepping back into the roles that defined their careers at a young age. But both commended the script, timing of the project and its straight-to-series model on YouTube Red, which will allow a new generation to experience the magic of The Karate Kid.

"It was not easy to get me to do it. I've been asked and pitched many times over the years. This was a smart and fresh angle, and I believe things happen at a certain time for a certain reason, and this was just the right time," Macchio said. "If this was a broadcast television pilot and then wait and see? This is the way to do it. Audiences now gravitate to this type of platform for entertainment. It was timing and the angle that these guys had with the story."

The formal Cobra Kai announcement drew top brass from producers Sony Pictures Television Studios, including new presidents Jeff Frost and Jason Clodfelter as well as Sony Pictures Entertainment chairman and CEO Tony Vinciquerra. Cobra Kai is the first sale from the independent studio to YouTube Red. The digital platform's head of originals, Susanne Daniels, also noted that she knew Cobra Kai was something she wanted as the platform looks to age up its scripted originals from 18-34 to the more advertiser-coveted 18-49. The concept of the show, she noted, will appeal to both adults and a new generation, with Macchio and Zabka revealing that Cobra Kai would explore how Daniel and Johnny changed over the years as well as the new challenges they face.

"He's become very successful and maybe has lost a little bit of touch — he needs to have flaws, and he had flaws as a kid and he will have them as an adult. His heart is always in the right place," Macchio said. "As I've done at 50-something years old, there comes a time where part of your life creates some challenges: raising teenagers, trying to handle your successful business and having your nemesis come back 30 years later [that] keep you up at night just because of the importance of carrying on the Miyagi legacy. Then how Daniel's wife will embrace or not embrace this new chapter of him now going back to the dojo. I'm looking forward to that evolution."

Added Zabka: "They've gone on with their lives, but that rivalry is always still there. It's like a football game you lost in high school but the whole world saw it. It's always there: 'If only I just did this…'"

Zabka also noted that Cobra Kai — titled because it is less Daniel's story and more about both he and Johnny — would explore Johnny's backstory as well.

"Through this show, you get to see who he was and where he came from. I never saw Johnny as a bad guy; I always saw him as the antagonist but at his core, he had a good heart," Zabka told THR. "At the beginning of the first movie, he said he had one year to make it all work and that's what he wanted to do. He was an ex-degenerate. Then LaRusso comes in town and turns his world upside down. At the very end, he hands him a trophy and says, 'You're all right, LaRusso.' He has a good heart and they tap into that in the show. You're going to empathize with him. He's still tough and rough around the edges, but it's a really smart and fun take on it and I think it'll be really entertaining."

All told, Zabka summed up what it feels like to reunite with Macchio on Cobra Kai: "It's like getting reacquainted with an old friend. We have our peace to make between the two of us."

frankfurters take on new glamour in this gleaming aspic (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 09:05 (two years ago) link

last chance cash grab

Chocolate-covered gummy bears? Not ruling those lil' guys out. (ulysses), Tuesday, 22 August 2017 21:07 (two years ago) link

one year passes...

So like a season and a half into Cobra Kai I can say it's both fan service city and way, way better than it has any right to be. Macchio is kinda the weak link, but Zabka is surprisingly good and kinda legit hilarious at times, and most of the kids are really great. I thoroughly expect to see Xolo Maridueña become a big star down the road (please note that I have only previously made such a bold proclamation about Donald Glover and Kate McKinnon early in their respective careers so I clearly have an eye for talent for which Hollywood should be paying me handsomely).

there is a Cobra Kai show?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 13:29 (nine months ago) link

Just renewed for a third season, even! It's on YouTube Red, though (their streaming service, which features one original program as far as I can tell). Definitely worth checking out if you're a fan of the movie, and I think I'd mildly recommend it even if you weren't.

Xolo Maridueña aka the boy in 1956 in twin peaks the return part 8!

I saw the first couple of eps of this - cute but not high on my list of things to come back to

milkshake chuk (wins), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 14:29 (nine months ago) link

Wow, did not even realize he was the kid in The Return!

The show is heavily reliant on reference to the films in the early episodes and the first season in general, but it's starting to find its own voice in the second season. I figured they'd be working around Zabka's limitations to an excessive degree but he's really been bringing it. They've even hit some legitimately affecting emotional beats (although I'm old and well up at the violin-scored drop of a hat so my perspective may be suspect).

Yeah Cobra Kai is pretty great & has a good sense of humor -def worth checking out

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 May 2019 15:16 (nine months ago) link

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