lol I think the last movie my entire family saw together in the theatre was ... Dr. Strange? (It was totally forgettable, iirc, and I suspect they harbor a quiet grudge for being dragged to something so unmemorable). Now even the movies we all see we see in waves and various combos. They have less than zero interest in the new Star Wars, or Star Wars in general, afaict. I don't think my wife even knows what a Wookie is. We have Disney+, and 2/3 of the big draws might as well be invisible to them.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link
142 minutes
short!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
These days, yeah, that might as well be a pre-feature cartoon.
I've got to say, as someone who grew up steeped in this shit (Star Wars 1 in the theatre 1978 or so may be my earliest memory), it's a relief to have a family with no fan-boy inclinations. My girls are getting older, but they still love Frozen, and yet, though they saw the new movie opening weekend, that, more or less, was it. I guess they listen to the songs sometimes. It's possible the Harry Potter films had a SW like impact on them, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
I was genuinely shocked that my sister (who has evinced precisely zero interest in SW ever) saw TLJ with us, and genuinely the opposite when she opted to sit out the follow-up.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
even the usually hyperbolic Twitter first reactions are tentative. normally I root for everything to be good but in this case a fiasco would be much more fun
― Simon H., Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:10 (four years ago) link
I do like reading the Kathleen Kennedy cool-your-brakes stories, with Iger being all "full steam ahead!" and Kennedy being more cautious about the future of the franchise.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:11 (four years ago) link
it's completely baffling to me that disney's approach to making the mainline star wars movies seems to be a one-at-a-time thing with no clear idea of an overarching three-movie plot at the outset
although i guess having an actual licence to print money means you don't need to worry about this stuff much
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:16 (four years ago) link
I’ll be going with my wife on Saturday (my son’s still too young to see a movie like this cold, without me pre-screening it... though I felt a little cruel mentioning that mommy and I are going to see the new Star Wars movie, lol)
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
xpost I'm not that baffled. If the last several years of franchise moviemaking have taught us anything it's that very few people seem to have the ability to do it with any real alacrity. Everyone else just seems to be flying by the seat of their pants and hoping for the best.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:28 (four years ago) link
That’s how the first trilogy was made, yeah? Except with 3 years between films. Maybe they assumed lightning would strike twice.
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link
yeah, you're right - just seems weird that you have marvel on one side of the disney operation organising a 23-film story with relatively few public hitches and over on the star wars side you've got regular eruptions of creative confusion
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link
Even though he only directed the first, I gather that Lucas was still pretty heavily involved in the OG trilogy. As opposed to most franchises today which one assumes are largely shepherded by studio execs and marketing teams.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link
SW needs a Feige.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link
I really think The Force Awakens is better from feeling like it can stand on it's own, instead of feeling like it's just setting up a trilogy. But it really didn't set up a trilogy, lol. And yeah, with Solo being a setback for the standalone films, I'd quite honestly be more amused if this one 'failed' as well. (it's not going to fail, everyone is going to see it. I'll see it as well in the new year)
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
And yeah, as basically every other mega-franchise fails, it becomes more and more impressive/scary how Feige has been able to do it.
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link
xxxp Not marketing teams (they just market), but yeah. There’s no “creative” like Lucas or even Feige guiding the whole thing.
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
I might not even see the new one but tbh the whole thing seems like Disney and co reacting to the discourse and working based on that to try to please the fans - people complained that TFA was too familiar so TLJ veered contrary; people complained even harder about that so they (apparently) veered back hard towards the familiar.
― Simon H., Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
Not marketing teams (they just market)
I think you underestimate their reach and power.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link
it'd be interesting to know how much of the extremely online hate for the last jedi actually exists among regular moviegoers - presumably disney have reams of market research on that, and in terms of pure box office tfa made $2bn and tlj made a relatively paltry $1.3bn
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
I have to say I was also really baffled by Salo at first but I've come around to it. It's an uncompromising vision of life in the Empire. I'll be disappointed if Rise of Skywalker rows back from that. Maybe there's only room for one 'one for the dads' entry in the canon though?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link
xxp I worked at a studio for 15 yrs! They really don’t get involved in the filmmaking... they do generally choose the title, though.
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
At any rate, it's definitely a good thing if Disney is making $100 million movies based on the ever-shifting whims of the fans (or, rather, the most obnoxiously-vocal fans), that is absolutely the way to make big and expensive films.
Anyone who harbors genuine rancor for TLJ needs some genuine tragedy injected into their life, for serious.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link
'an uncompromising vision of life in the Empire' is definitely one way to describe salo but i dunno if that's a conversation we should be having in the star wars thread
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link
I have to say I was also really baffled by Salo at first but I've come around to it. It's an uncompromising vision of life in the Empire.
It's certainly a bracing depiction, but I still have trouble watching the Stormtroopers forcing naked Rebels to eat spoonfuls of feces. Maybe that's just me.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:52 (four years ago) link
Goddamn it, Scottish clone me. We really need to better coordinate our japery.
MORE 👏 REDUNDANT 👏 POSTS 👏
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link
You won't like what happens to redundant posters under the Empire
― Simon H., Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
Apparently there's a lot of fan service. Not shocked but meh.
But i am going to watch this with 12 year old eyes.
I'm skipping Morbid Angel to see this so better be good!
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link
I am sorry to the 12 year old whose eyes i stole tho
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link
i'm glad you addressed it cuz i couldn't find a decent gif of james hong in blade runner saying 'i do eyes'
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link
it's a relief to have a family with no fan-boy inclinations.
^ v much relate to this.
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link
Actual unironic predictions, why the heck not:
Rey is Kylo's sister, separated from her family at birth for a reason which will strain the plot to near-breakageLuke will appear as a Force ghost or at least a disembodied voiceThe word "midichlorians" will be uttered in a throwaway lineThere will be a fakeout where we think Palpy is gonna shoot lightning from his fingers but then doesn't, for some reason
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
It's all been a fantasy in Baby Yoda's head.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
It's all a bedtime story being told by an elderly Jar-Jar to his brood of younglings.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
I will assume Rey, like Anakin, is a Palpatine mind baby as the latter will reveal in this (possibly with flashbacks, possibly confirmed by FG Anakin himself)
― nashwan, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
Luke will appear as a Force ghost or at least a disembodied voiceI think this is guaranteed! I predict a few other Force ghosts will appear, as well...
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
(xpost)
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
I can’t think of any way to make Rey fit into the larger storyline that doesn’t feel terribly, well, “Forced”
― I'm off Twitter, and high on life! (morrisp), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link
rey is a time-travelling, shape-shifting watto
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link
I demand Yoda do his giggling while kicking his legs move again
― mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
A rebus 4 u all
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― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
the raves are rolling in
Tweeting through tears - #TheRiseofSkywalker isn’t the best Star Wars film, but it is the ULTIMATE Star Wars film. A truly stunning finale to a nine film saga. Only weird thing was the amount of screen time spent on characters wolfing down raw vidalia onions. I ADORED this movie.— ben mekler (@benmekler) December 17, 2019
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:26 (four years ago) link
Okay, seriously, you need to give some sort of warning before posting things like that so my coworkers don't think I'm having some sort of fit.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
avengers endgame vibes from that tweet
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
I dunno, I don't feel like the consumption of Vidalia onions was quite as front-and-center in Endgame. I'm glad to see Abrams is apparently willing to go all-in on that front.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link
lol at that guy's Cats tweet being quoted so many places
― nashwan, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link
oh lmao my brain sure skipped over the raw vidalia onions
― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:52 (four years ago) link
pic.twitter.com/Nyxq2ktufB— ben mekler (@benmekler) December 17, 2019
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:54 (four years ago) link
lol
― Frederik B, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
Thanks to red carpet coverage on Twitter I learned that Kathleen Kennedy has a twin sister, Connie, who works in visual effects production, including on a bunch of Disney and Marvel stuff.
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― I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link