the new USA show MR. ROBOT: the rise of Rami Malek and the inexplicable solidness of Christian Slater

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I am still watching! Haven't seen the latest episode though.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 16 December 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

Still watching, what a time to hit the button though, right at the end of the whole thing, interested to see what the actual fuck is going to happen now.

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 11:15 (four years ago) link

I'm withholding judgment and trying to just enjoy the ride (an approach that I find is the most constructive way to enjoy this show), but I'm hard-pressed to think of any explanation for the sudden shift in the status quo that won't be disappointing. Every show and movie in existence is banking on high concept at the moment, so if you're going that route you really gotta wow the audience with something unexpected.

Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link

I still haven't started the last season and I have a feeling I might just bail on it.

Yerac, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

At this point in this kind of show all I really want is for them to not completely mess up the ending. This episode was fine! I'm making myself not waste time on speculation - the plot will go wherever Esmail wants it to - and yeah, just enjoy the ride.

(though I'm pretty sure it's the same Tyrell that got lost in the words; and why no Darlene? Mrs. Alderson had an affair, and that didn't happen in the new timeline?)

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

lost in the *woods*

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

white rose looking good in the end times

mh, Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:25 (four years ago) link

however it ends, the journey was worth it imo - especially this last season! writing, cinematography and performances have all been ON POINT. The malek/wong staredown in the latest episode was a particular high point.

Legacy of Banality (Pillbox), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

I didn't expect the Elliot Instrumentality Project, but I'm tentatively on board. I always liked Eva's ending.

OneSecondBefore, Wednesday, 18 December 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

I think they stuck the landing

mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 04:12 (four years ago) link

I stopped watching but I guess they went full St Elsewhere with it?

Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

I am thinking of just watching the finale and not the rest of the final season.

Yerac, Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

same tbh

Simon H., Monday, 23 December 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

I’d throw in the preceding episode as well

mh, Monday, 23 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link

Fuck this candy-ass Dallas bullshit and fuck M83

Maresn3st, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

At least he didn't move to Canada and become a lumberjack.

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 December 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

so yeah huh

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:57 (four years ago) link

I wasn't expecting the finale to be an extended riff on Inside Out

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 23 December 2019 23:58 (four years ago) link

Agree, stuck the landing, for me. Wasn't expecting the reveal and loved how the reintegration was shown.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 24 December 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link

Just finished the finale, literally came here to type the phrase 'stuck the landing'. Glad to see I'm not alone! Esmail adroitly sailed between the cyberpunk Scylla and the multiversal Charybdis he'd set the audience up to expect. It ended in a much more satisfying and internally-consistent fashion than some of the shows I've deeply loved (I think I've settled on a designation of 'pretty darn good' for this particular show).

Drive Like a Demon From Steakhouse to Steakhouse (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 03:06 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2019 season is nominated in the 2019 ILX TV poll:

ILX's Best Television of 2019 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends January 31

If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (4 minimum, 25 maximum, organized by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail by end of day today. It'll take five minutes; get to it!

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 31 January 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Four-and-a-half years since I gave up on this--almost back where I bailed, S2/E5. I will definitely finish this time. Having subtitles off Prime helps (was watching bootlegs last time).

clemenza, Monday, 4 January 2021 00:42 (three years ago) link

That's about where i quit too. i'm okay letting it pass.

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Monday, 4 January 2021 00:46 (three years ago) link

You guys bailed because of this??
https://townsquare.media/site/442/files/2016/08/mr-robot-alf-pic.jpg

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 00:52 (three years ago) link

lol, i did not know that happened; it might've kept me in!

the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:07 (three years ago) link

Haven't gotten that far...I indicated above that confusion was my main reason the first time--took too long a break between S1 and S2--but I'm reminded now of what may have been the bigger reason: keeping Christian Slater's character around way too long. I find him quite tiresome a few episodes into S2. I'm determined to finish anyway. Don't tell me, but I'm hoping he's gone after this season.

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:30 (three years ago) link

I'm curious what y'all think happens just based on this image...

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:34 (three years ago) link

Slater does go away, and Alf steps into the breach as Elliot's new ever-present id?

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:37 (three years ago) link

Would you guess that id-Alf speaks with Slater's voice, or it's Alf doing a Christian Slater impression but ending up sounding like Jack Nicholson?

Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 01:46 (three years ago) link

I'd say end of S2 or after a particular midpoint ep of S3 is a fine place to quit.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:22 (three years ago) link

honestly, if you quit when he finds Shayla in the trunk, you're good

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:34 (three years ago) link

i wasn't planning on watching s4 but i fell into it and it was a major quality leap over 2 & 3 imo, despite some wheel spinning in the pre-finale eps. still need to watch the finale tho.

boz conspiracy by toby hus (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 18:35 (three years ago) link

Just watched the Alf episode--it's the one right after the point where I quit last time. During the whole fake sitcom, all I could think about was how it was such a blatant steal from the Rodney Dangerfield segment in Natural Born Killers (a film I don't much like).

clemenza, Tuesday, 5 January 2021 19:44 (three years ago) link

Thought Angela karaoke-ing to Tears for Fears was pretty great. The Cramps, too!

clemenza, Thursday, 7 January 2021 22:31 (three years ago) link

The dude behind (or I guess beneath) ALF is supposedly this mercurial auteur who demands everyone treat ALF as real while on set.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 7 January 2021 23:17 (three years ago) link

As a Mad Men worshipper, immediately I bust out laughing when Duck Phillips/Mark Moses showed up (older guy at the bar Angela flirts with in S2, E6). When I checked to confirm it was him, was disappointed to find out that was his one appearance. He's there for 30 seconds; don't know if they were paying tribute to Mad Men, or if Moses just needed the work.

clemenza, Friday, 8 January 2021 03:22 (three years ago) link

Finished S2. I'm as lost as ever, or maybe I'm just looking for more than what's there. The first half of the season was basically a ruse, and the rest amounts to fsociety on the run. I think I've got that much.

I'll keep going because it looks good, I'm glad they're using music more (going back to S1, "Some Velvet Morning" was great, but they barely gave it a chance), and I like most of the performances. My three favourite right now are Portia Doubleday, Grace Gummer as the FBI agent, and Michael Cristofer as Price. I'm finding Rami Malek's mumbling a little tiresome, though I really liked when he suddenly began talking like Christian Slater at the beginning of the last episode.

The highlight of the season for me was that young girl interrogating Angela. What a strange mix of Lynch, Marathon Man, and The Parallax View. And right after, DiPierro and Alexa.

clemenza, Sunday, 10 January 2021 05:50 (three years ago) link

It continues to look (and sound) good throughout the run. S2 is peak "why is this a TV show" iirc, Esmail never gives up on his love of messing with you but the shape of the show is a lot more conventional in S3 and S4.

timber euros (seandalai), Sunday, 10 January 2021 23:32 (three years ago) link

Grace Gummer is good in this

mh, Monday, 11 January 2021 00:41 (three years ago) link

She really is. She turned up in one episode of A Teacher, and I couldn't figure out where I knew her from until I resumed this--she was in a few episodes before I bailed last time. (I don't remember her her character in Frances Ha--Greta Gerwig's roommate?) Her conversation with Alexa that I mention above is classic.

clemenza, Monday, 11 January 2021 01:14 (three years ago) link

I feel bad for Portia Doubleday, so much of what she gets to do is pointless or at least very tedious

stylish but illegal (Simon H.), Monday, 11 January 2021 01:22 (three years ago) link

The scene where Elliot's psychiatrist brings forth Mr. Robot reminded me so much of the scene in The Exorcist where one of the doctors does the same with Linda Blair--I'm sure it was an intentional allusion. I suspect Agent DiPierro's lollipops are too; I vaguely recall some film noir I can't place.

97% of the computer jargon loses me. Exploits, femtocells, rootkits--I just let it cascade by and assume the main point will be clear soon enough. Sometimes it's campy, like this bit from the S3 opener: "I've known Angela since I was eight. This is what she does. She doesn't love the people who love her. She loves the people who don't. This is her power-saver mode."

The Barenaked Ladies bit was funny.

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:04 (three years ago) link

Duh--Kojack!

clemenza, Tuesday, 12 January 2021 02:09 (three years ago) link

Bobby Cannavale is the least likely looking Irving I've ever encountered, but I'm really enjoying his scenes--one of those cases where he's off in some movie of his own. "That's a YP, not an MP"--Boogie Nights, I assume. I'm liking a lot, actually, most everything except the Elliot/Mr. Robot gimmick. They should have written Slater out by the end of the second season. Loved "If You Could Read My Mind." Someone sent me a Vimeo link for the karaoke scene.

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 01:12 (three years ago) link

https://vimeo.com/181859596

(Maybe you can't link to Vimeo.)

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 January 2021 01:13 (three years ago) link

That interlude with Elliot taking Shama's brother to the movies was so weird--and then, at the end, kind of touching, a rarity for this show. Elliot and Angela at the doorway, though, was way too John Hughes-y; Elliot may as well have stood outside her apartment with a boombox.

As gimmicky as I find Mr. Robot's appearances, there are some affinities with Ghost Patti in The Leftovers.

clemenza, Friday, 15 January 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

And Ghost Mac in Magnum PI

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 15 January 2021 20:58 (three years ago) link

Finished S3, will finish for sure. There's been so much over-the-top drama the last few episodes, couldn't say what's next. (Only show I've ever watched that spent two seasons trying to undo the first.) The big revelation with Phillip Price may as well have been SCTV's Days of the Week. Thought the last 20 seconds of the season-ending coda was hilarious.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 00:47 (three years ago) link

BD Wong must have cribbed from every Bond villain for Whiterose--keep waiting for him to say, "No, Mr. Alderson, I expect you to die!"

I feel bad for Portia Doubleday, so much of what she gets to do is pointless or at least very tedious

I'd disagree for the first couple of seasons, but by this point, yeah--they lost the character as she stumbled around in a zombie stupor the last few episodes. Hope they get her back on track.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 01:02 (three years ago) link

S4, E1, 45 seconds later--not back on track.

clemenza, Saturday, 16 January 2021 17:33 (three years ago) link


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