Superhypercaffeinatedexpialidocious
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 December 2019 04:02 (four years ago) link
This evening I turned on MSNBC and watched Sen. Ben Cardin of Maryland express deep concern about whether his Republican colleagues were going to keep an open mind as jurors in the Senate trial of the President. At one point he went as far as to say that Mitch McConnell had “raise[d] serious questions whether he will be objective in carrying out the responsibilities of the Senate or whether he’s going to try to stack the deck in favor of the president.”My point here is not to pick on Ben Cardin. This is one example of rhetoric you can hear from many Democrats and most Senate Democrats. It’s just the example that is ready at hand. But it is terrible and completely pathetic.It is grievously irresponsible to be expressing “concerns” that Republicans may not do their job and uphold their responsibility as Senators. Republicans have made crystal clear that they understand the nature of the President’s abuses of power and that they will not only protect him from the consequences of his actions but, in an effort to do so, bend reality to pretend that it is in fact fine and even admirable for a President to use extortion to force a foreign power to intervene in a US election. To see Republicans do this in the open and not state that fact clearly is a total abdication of responsibility.[sport metaphor. military battle metaphor.]Republicans have made their intentions crystal clear. It is an abdication of responsibility not to state this clearly. Republicans have already decided to protect a lawless President from constitutional accountability. They’ve betrayed the constitution and their oaths. This is a point to make consistently over and over and over again. Because it is true. If some Republican Senator decides to change his mind and the right thing they are welcome to do so.Perhaps Cardin and others are too squeamish for that language or too wedded to Senate collegiality. I’m sure many Republican colleagues are amiable enough people when you meet them at the congressional gym. But language does not need to be hot to state clearly where the facts of the matter stand. There’s nothing to be “concerned” about. Senate Republicans have made very clear there is no level of lawless behavior from this President that they will not defend. The public needs to know that. It needs to be said over and over. To say anything else, to express hopes this or that doesn’t happen when it already has happened only signals a damaging, demoralizing and shameful weakness.
My point here is not to pick on Ben Cardin. This is one example of rhetoric you can hear from many Democrats and most Senate Democrats. It’s just the example that is ready at hand. But it is terrible and completely pathetic.
It is grievously irresponsible to be expressing “concerns” that Republicans may not do their job and uphold their responsibility as Senators. Republicans have made crystal clear that they understand the nature of the President’s abuses of power and that they will not only protect him from the consequences of his actions but, in an effort to do so, bend reality to pretend that it is in fact fine and even admirable for a President to use extortion to force a foreign power to intervene in a US election. To see Republicans do this in the open and not state that fact clearly is a total abdication of responsibility.
[sport metaphor. military battle metaphor.]
Republicans have made their intentions crystal clear. It is an abdication of responsibility not to state this clearly. Republicans have already decided to protect a lawless President from constitutional accountability. They’ve betrayed the constitution and their oaths. This is a point to make consistently over and over and over again. Because it is true. If some Republican Senator decides to change his mind and the right thing they are welcome to do so.
Perhaps Cardin and others are too squeamish for that language or too wedded to Senate collegiality. I’m sure many Republican colleagues are amiable enough people when you meet them at the congressional gym. But language does not need to be hot to state clearly where the facts of the matter stand. There’s nothing to be “concerned” about. Senate Republicans have made very clear there is no level of lawless behavior from this President that they will not defend. The public needs to know that. It needs to be said over and over. To say anything else, to express hopes this or that doesn’t happen when it already has happened only signals a damaging, demoralizing and shameful weakness.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/terrible-terrible-terrible
if all the pundits make this point at the same time, i believe we can levitate the pentagon
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:04 (four years ago) link
i have been getting bad feelings for the past week or two. ever since the baton was passed to nadler, basically, not to blame him specifically. i think a lot of it is the whole thing i've complained about before with everyone knowing the outcome (acquitted in senate, easily) and spinning that future result weeks before it happens. i do it, too, for sure. liberal democracies sometimes die, and sometimes the people that held power during the nominal democratic time continue to hold power afterward as well. have a dark glass of wine or two and it's easy to see kevin mccarthy as this kind of person, mitch mcconnell of course, matt gaetz as the dumb jock, a bunch of older white men with shaved heads as the anonymous supporting meathead cast
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:12 (four years ago) link
huh?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:22 (four years ago) link
as for Van Drew, who gives a shit?
I regret to inform you that Trump announcing that he has the support of a dipshit New Jersey House backbencher nobody has ever heard of is going to be a YOOOOGE game changer pic.twitter.com/yXmUdc9ydd— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) December 15, 2019
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:23 (four years ago) link
the majority of the Dems Just Don’t Care
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:28 (four years ago) link
^Fresh Prince repeating ideas
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link
I've been hearing thaty compromising on this infrastructure deal is likely to send absolutely the wrong message to significant parts of the electorate which could heavily undermine everything else the Dems are trying to accomplish over the next year.& that in trying to seem too reasonable they may just blow any form of credibility they have.NOt worth it for a bill that isn't going to immediately show positive results for marginalised people or whatever.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Hearing from where?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
It's a frequent dilemma these days, where attempting to govern the nation might not mesh smoothly with image-building and message-sending. I know the Republicans have constructed a coalition that has no interest in governance, since that would also include regulating their ability to make the highest possible profits, which enables the Republicans to take and hold extreme positions without much interest in making compromises.
However frustrating this dynamic is, I still would rather have the option of voting for someone who intends to prevent the government from falling into complete ruin. Even at the cost of sending "wrong messages". This doesn't mean I expect Democrats to be supine before the excessive demands of the Republicans, but if they expect to get better at messaging, their principle tool ought to be explaining their vision for the nation in simple and direct terms, not some voodoo based on the details of appropriations bills.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link
Was hearing from various political podcasts, a few of the Pod Save ones and a couple of other places.Not that Obama himself has been showing himself in the best light recently in terms of what his opinion re democratic behaviour/policy ought to be.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link
Idea is taht to compromise and go along with this infrastructure deal right now means that they are having to put forward 2 coinflicting stories at the same time. Impeachment needs t to be a totally unscrupulous momster taht you can't trust from one moment to the next, I think there's plenty of evidence of that. But at the same time they are trying to show that they can make a deal, in order for them to show themselves to be reasonable, but that also shows that they think they can rely on t to some extent. Seems like a not very thought out strategy when the more important thing right now is the first part. & since there is no immediate effect this just undermines their message.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link
Those messages only conflict for people who cannot think their way out of a paper bag, most of whom vote republican anyway. The president is not the living embodiment of infrastructure appropriations, except to people who think the president is the government while the Congress is some inexplicable bunch of people who have no discernible purpose but just stand around being ornamental and irrelevant. It is unfortunate that this kindergartner's view of government seems to be very prevalent in the USA these days.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link
But at the same time they are trying to show that they can make a deal
Again, maybe they aren't trying to "show" anything, maybe they are trying to do something. Trade war sucks, Trump's status quo is going to fuck lots of Americans very hard (indeed has already done so) and a policy of "let's not do anything to alleviate or slow the fucking over of Americans until November 2020 lest it look good for Trump" is just too sad and cynical for me to accept, even if I thought it were sound political strategy.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link
SCOOP: 30 freshman House Democrats are trying 2 draft Rep. @JustinAmash (I) as an impeachment manager 4 the Senate trial of TrumpPelosi makes the call, but these Dems want a bipartisan showing & Amash is among the most conservative members in the Househttps://t.co/oua44qujW0— Rachael Bade (@rachaelmbade) December 15, 2019
galaxy brain stuff here
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
You can question a witnesses credibility but you cannot question hard documentary evidence, which each firsthand witness part of this investigation provide. pic.twitter.com/FBTMpTySuQ— Rudy Giuliani (@RudyGiuliani) December 15, 2019
shit that looks like an onion article but isn't
the whole tweet thread is fucking insane
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:10 (four years ago) link
Christ, the 'bipartisan' delusion will never die, at least not in my life
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
kind of a pointless endeavor. no matter what Republican you get to join up, they'll be called a "RINO" or a "secretly angry Democrat". when it's Flake, who is already seen as a defector, that work is already done.
everybody should just quit auditioning for the Independent vote because that isn't how they're gonna win it.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link
err sorry, Amash, not Flake, though the point remains
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:30 (four years ago) link
It's not a terrible idea, given that Amash has been more forcefully articulate about impeachment than most Democrats.
― jaymc, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
Amash is a person of principle, many of which I disagree with, but even a pillar of libertarianism is more useful than amorphous self-interested slime.
― полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Monday, 16 December 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
Oh look, there’s Justice Roberts sitting next to Secretary of State Pompeo at the Kennedy Center Honors on tv now.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 16 December 2019 03:13 (four years ago) link
was that taped a month ago?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 December 2019 05:16 (four years ago) link
but is it a fact that he's rapidly declining
Usually, his painfully obvious projection is simply loudly shouting that other people are committing the crime that he himself is committing at that moment. Lately he's been going at Biden for Biden's mental acuity, and now:
Because Nancy’s teeth were falling out of her mouth, and she didn’t have time to think! https://t.co/rx3pcyofip— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 15, 2019
Two years ago:
🔥🔥Sooo this is interesting. Trump’s dentures are trying to escape his mouth as this speech is ending. Join the club dentures! Unbelievable. pic.twitter.com/QqYv7whxDF— Power to the People (@KeepMyPowerOrg) December 6, 2017
Looks like he's starting to get sensitive about / aware of aspects of his physical condition, beyond dictating a bullshit health report and then believing it himself.
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 16 December 2019 06:33 (four years ago) link
y'all were right, he's not gonna do the debates
I look very much forward to debating whoever the lucky person is who stumbles across the finish line in the little watched Do Nothing Democrat Debates. My record is so good on the Economy and all else, including debating, that perhaps I would consider more than 3 debates.....— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2019
....to me, and there are many options, including doing them directly & avoiding the nasty politics of this very biased Commission. I will make a decision at an appropriate time but in the meantime, the Commission on Presidential Debates is NOT authorized to speak for me (or R’s)!— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 16, 2019
― frogbs, Monday, 16 December 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
good morning!
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2019 14:53 (four years ago) link
Profound dentural deficiencies
― willem, Monday, 16 December 2019 14:54 (four years ago) link
Ace Dentura, Prez Defective
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:05 (four years ago) link
lol
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:06 (four years ago) link
The Polident of the United States of America
Bridgegate II
Make America Chew Again
Grab 'em by the bicuspid
(I could do this all day)
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
Movement of Jaw People
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:36 (four years ago) link
America's Teeth Are Falling OutSome Dream Analysts Believe This is a Sign of Financial StressTake It or Leave It, Many Are SayingDONATEDONALDTRUMP2020.COMNOW
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
My Country 'Tis of Teeth
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:40 (four years ago) link
for the love of all that is good and holy, stop
― totally unnecessary bewbz of exploitation (DJP), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:42 (four years ago) link
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
Ohhhhhh just one more:
His Polygrip on the issues is self-Efferdent.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:44 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8UBL5xTNKE
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:58 (four years ago) link
this is all-time
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
agreed, full of wisdom, belongs on a plaque
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
iswydt Hadrian
― Hereward the Woke (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
Incredible https://t.co/Jc0e3eaxZN pic.twitter.com/TpXrw9FjiL— David Uberti (@DavidUberti) December 16, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 December 2019 21:07 (four years ago) link
critical support for comrade recep tayyip erdogan
Erdogan threatens to recognise US genocide of Native Americans in response to Armenia ruling https://t.co/XRaJbgnkcL— The Independent (@Independent) December 16, 2019
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:07 (four years ago) link
when two turds go to war
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
Hey would you look at that, maybe Erdogan isn't all bad after all.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
a reminder of the massacre of native americans PLUS an implicit turkish admission of the armenian genocide? it's an xmas miracle!
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
can anyone present a positive vision of the future?
seriously, with what's going on, the likely unanimous republican opposition to impeachment, in the face of blatant, self-evident evidence of wrongdoing that is in all likelihood ongoing, supported by masses of complete fucking idiots who vote them in?
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
eh, bother, i know how this conversation goes. i know what kind of whining is tolerable and what is notover to the You will Always be Sad thread i go
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
sorry, do-over. admitting high crimes in real time, week of dec 16th edition:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment
just giuliani saying that he wanted former ambassador Marie Yovanovitch out of the way because she was an impediment to his important investigations about how it was actually ukraine that rigged the 2016 election. it's such a huge coincidence that this is exactly what russia wants the world to believe, and also what trump wants the world to believe. but any connection to russia is laughable because the mueller report exonerated everyone (no one can read or comprehend spoken words in 2019). in addition, no one has even bothered subpoenaing the obvious criminal dipshit in the middle of all this (uh, sorry, giuliani - realize there's multiple contenders), not that it would matter because mcconnell wouldn't allow it anyway. and what is the point, really, when everyone has known for several months that any impeachment proceeding would end up being completely opposed by virtually every voting republican in the united states? here's some goddamn hope: maybe whoever is saying up is down can be tricked into thinking "down" is up again, especially if some rich dumbass on television tells them to do it
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
brb, gotta make a bot representation of nero fiddling so i can watch it in my own private VR while the world burns down, which will actually be good for agriculture yields, is what i heard
― Peaceful Warrior I Poser (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
It's cool, man, I feel like if you aren't occasionally suckerpunched into the dirt by a rogue wave of panic and/or despair these days then you just aren't paying attention.
― Welcome to the Sandwich Trough (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 17 December 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link