paul I agree that the back half of season 2 has a lot of letdowns, but season 3 might be the best season of TV I’ve ever seen. it is not to be missed
― k3vin k., Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
I liked Denise a lot, and I remember her as redeeming the episodes she was in, though that may just be wishful thinking. My vote for worst plotline would be Cooper falling in love with Annie, just because cringe-inducing terrible dialogue is harder to suffer through when it's Coop delivering it.
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
That said, I remember the three-episode arc with David Duchovny very fondly?!
Also touched on wonderfully in S3.
― insecurity bear (sic), Saturday, 14 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
i’m in the middle of another rewatch and every time I get to this part my skeleton leaves my body and I disassociate james is The Worsthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEn-mmFiYDs-
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:22 (four weeks ago) link
and OMG i want to kick Harold and his 2-cent Norman Bates impression into the fucking sunhim and james, into the sea immediately
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:25 (four weeks ago) link
crooner James - not terribleJames & Evelyn - absolute complete dogshit (as evidenced by OP results)
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 April 2024 06:38 (four weeks ago) link
James is cool Also that scene is one of the best bits of the entire run
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 07:21 (four weeks ago) link
insanityi hate it so much
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 07:37 (four weeks ago) link
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― H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:03 (four weeks ago) link
James has ALWAYS been cool!
James is canonically a dipshit, it’s good I’ve never understood reaction to that scene, at least if you’ve bought into the whole vibe of the show up to that point it surely makes perfect sense that there is this performance going on in the palmer living room, with the heightened artificiality of the vocal effects & the musical backing that cannot possibly be diegetic (but maybe is?? There’s always music in the air) & also it’s v funny because it’s dipshit James doing his teenybop scotty Ferguson bit toward his dead gf’s doppelgänger while his current gf is also in the room because they are both singing backing vocals on a song called “just you” lol — and then Donna & James rush out of the room and BOB comes in, not appearing out of thin air as previously but literally walking in from the other room, and crawls over the couch directly at the camera?Start to finish that has to be top 10 most quintessential lynch scenes ever, not just TP
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:21 (four weeks ago) link
"just you and i" is amazing!!!!
― ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:22 (four weeks ago) link
The deliberately ridiculous singing alone is a joy
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:23 (four weeks ago) link
tension between donna and maddie is unbelievable in that scene
― ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:24 (four weeks ago) link
everything in season 2 is good
― ciderpress, Thursday, 18 April 2024 13:27 (four weeks ago) link
love 'just you and i,' it's perfect. there's something in it that is emphasized a lot more in the return, individuals being fated by their archetypes, the doppelganger who is caught in larger patterns, a magnetic pull towards your place in the cosmos regardless of how you stuggle against it in an effort to "fix" things. it adds such tragedy to donna's jealousy, she sees her position slipping out of her grasp because she isn't the girl and james is the guy, doesn't matter that he's a doofus, he has the motorcycle and the guitar
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:30 (four weeks ago) link
otm, great post
― H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 14:47 (four weeks ago) link
I'm with VG on this sorry
There were six to ten S2 episodes where I was wimpy punching the couch wishing it was over
― I Love Potatoes (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:03 (four weeks ago) link
Speaking of cringey dudes, if a poll-thread is made for Worst character/plotline in the third season of Twin Peaks (SPOILERS):
Wally Brando/Michael Cera would definitely be up there.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:09 (four weeks ago) link
:/ agreed, awful moment in an otherwise perfect season
― I Love Potatoes (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:11 (four weeks ago) link
In retrospect, since the show was set in the Pacific Northwest in 1989, James should really have been a grunge balladeer instead of a Paul Anka throwback.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:14 (four weeks ago) link
the wally brando scene is so fucking funny
― ivy., Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:15 (four weeks ago) link
The whole point is that TP is out of time
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:17 (four weeks ago) link
Widow Milford subplot deserved some votes
― JoeStork, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:21 (four weeks ago) link
I would've voted for (the first half of) "Ben Horne becomes obsessed with the Civil War, and tries to turn over a new leaf," which last time I rewatched was pointless, irritating, and, as silly as it is, pretty dodgy in a Lost Cause way
― rob, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:34 (four weeks ago) link
great post karlakrlarkal
ppl horrendously not otm about wally brando
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:39 (four weeks ago) link
...or that Lynch switched off his cultural perceptions around 1962.
― Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 18 April 2024 15:49 (four weeks ago) link
The Nine Inch Nails
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Thursday, 18 April 2024 16:01 (four weeks ago) link
the point of James was that he was a wet noodle i can understand and appreciate his character’s purpose while ALSO finding him to be a wet noodle and that doesn’t include nor will it ever include wanting to hear him sing me the song of his people ie that he is a wet noodle if i am to tolerate James then the least he could do is NOT. SING.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 18 April 2024 17:57 (four weeks ago) link
the wally brando scene, especially in the context of those first few episodes of the return when everyone was still trying to get a handle on it, was and remains incredible
― devvvine, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:44 (four weeks ago) link
some of the freddie sykes stuff on the other hand…
― devvvine, Thursday, 18 April 2024 18:46 (four weeks ago) link
I love all of that Maybe more for the other thread but I just got to the Brando ep in my rewatch the other night, I think I like it even more than I did the first time
― subpost master (wins), Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:03 (four weeks ago) link
Speaking of cringey dudes [...] Wally Brando/Michael Cera would definitely be up there.
... wasn't that the entire point of that scene? Robert Forster can barely keep a straight face.
― Vast Halo, Thursday, 18 April 2024 19:08 (four weeks ago) link
and OMG i want to kick Harold and his 2-cent Norman Bates impression into the fucking sun
OTM, especially when he’s “menacing” Donna and Maddie after they attempt to steal the diary. There’s two of them versus a wimp with a hand rake—just push past him!
My vote is more the absence of a plot line: the lack of reaction to Leland’s guilt. You’d think that Donna would be traumatized by learning a man she saw often had been molesting her best friend. Or Jacoby, having finally learned Laura’s secret. Instead, the town seems to shrug and move on after the funeral reception—which is all the more bizarre considering it’s only been about two weeks since Laura died.
I think that episode is the low of the series to me, even if goofier stuff followed--it just seems so disrespectful of what came before, especially considering how the pilot dwelled on grief. This should have been a big moment but instead we get slapstick with the mayor. You really feel the network/new writers coming in and saying, “OK, enough of that stuff, time to do our own thing."
― blatherskite, Friday, 19 April 2024 16:38 (three weeks ago) link
otm, and the final episode of s2 feels like a correction in that regard: lynch comes back in & brings back maddy & ronette (the one bafflingly forgotten as soon as she’s murdered, the other pretty much only ever appearing in lynch-directed eps), the palmer family also return (Sarah also having disappeared after the wake, like how on earth do you do that ffs), Laura palmer is literally screaming in our faces &c. And then the film even more so obv. I like the post-wklp episodes but I’d be way more down on them if those corrections didn’t exist, as it is the tone shift feels like the town/show making a supernatural effort to bury deeply this terrible secret, which never goes well in lynch
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 19 April 2024 16:59 (three weeks ago) link
Although it wasn’t so much new writers coming in as existing staff writers being left holding the bag after both lynch & frost checked out
― subpost master (wins), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:06 (three weeks ago) link
i think fire walk with me is a corrective in that way, where it does get you to sit with the reality of how she died and who killed her and it doesn’t at all let you turn away from that, the way much of s2 does
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 19 April 2024 17:31 (three weeks ago) link
ugh i memory-holed so much of this and now it’s all flooding back to me like a blocked sewer drainpiper laurie in asian-face help me i am in hellu guys so much of this season really is the pits
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:05 (three weeks ago) link
you're still in the part of season two i like!!!! agreed that the asian-face is terrible tho
― ivy., Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:07 (three weeks ago) link
very unnecessary plotline, also not sure why multiple characters had to be masters of disguise in season two of twin peaks
There’s two of them versus a wimp with a hand rake—just push past him!
he immediately turns it on himself [drawing that super-fake mark across his face with the visibly pre-bloodied rake]: he's emotionally terrorizing them, not blocking their path. (who hasn't met this guy.) nevertheless "2-cent norman bates impression" pretty undeniable but i do like "there are things you can't get in books" "there are things you can't get anywhere, but we dream they can be found in other people"
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:15 (three weeks ago) link
ratty norman bates cornering donna & maddy with the little garden tool is v funny, esp when maddy screams the fuckin house down and all he did was scrape his own face slightly!i mean this is the same girl who screamed at a stain on the carpet like u may look like Laura but if yr gonna live in this town u can’t pee yr pants every time u see a shadow TOUGHEN UP MADDY JFC
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:34 (three weeks ago) link
tbf all she did was come to a funeral and it's like she fell into a dream
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:41 (three weeks ago) link
then again she’s been staying in that cursed fkn house for all this time w Leland & Sarah & BOB so screaming all the time is prob understandable, all things considered
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 April 2024 00:51 (three weeks ago) link
guy that played Harold was really terrible (RIP I guess). He's no better when he shows up in FWWM.
Lynch is fond of Ronnette, it's not for nothing that she showed up in the Return also (in another dimension with no name)
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 20 April 2024 01:01 (three weeks ago) link
Harold! That's my man Edgar, Lenny Van Dohlen, from Electric Dreams. Okay he's not very good in that either but it's still a classic.
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 20 April 2024 01:06 (three weeks ago) link
oh wow i forgot he was in Electric Dreams! he def looks better w the glasses & a bowtie. also he had better hair in that
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 April 2024 01:34 (three weeks ago) link
wasn’t so much new writers coming in as existing staff writers being left holding the bagand Engels (ie 50% of the staff writers) wrote Fire Walk With Me
― bae (sic), Saturday, 20 April 2024 04:03 (three weeks ago) link
e7 of season 2, the one directed by lynch, def feels like a reprieve … we’re not so brightly let, everything gets a bit more muted & sombre & proper weird again (salvation army bouncing rubber balls lmao)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 20 April 2024 04:29 (three weeks ago) link
*lit