Then I clicked through on Mr Sauce's account after posting and regretted it tbh.
lol same but good to have my suspicions confirmed
― nashwan, Saturday, 14 December 2019 09:54 (four years ago) link
Watched Last Jedi today and it was pretty good(!) So that's probably my favorite now outside of the original three.
― o. nate, Sunday, 15 December 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link
I was in the right mood and the casino planet stuff was good! I didn’t pay enough attention to the myriad of bourgeois alien hijinks before.
― mh, Sunday, 15 December 2019 05:56 (four years ago) link
Small weird thing but the critique of last Jedi being about “the friends aren’t together on an adventure” is some Care Bears level garbage of storytelling needs— Peter Labuza (@labuzamovies) December 12, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link
How about the critique that multiple plot lines in this film are terrible?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link
a view many of us dont' share
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 15:57 (four years ago) link
We can't all be right all the time.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
i like pretty much all the plot lines and how they end in failure
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:02 (four years ago) link
maybe they win today, maybe you win tomorrow
― mh, Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
Everything outside of the Rey/Kylo/Luke stuff just seems absurd and corny to me. I'm going to give this movie one more chance before seeing the new one, maybe I'll warm up to it.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 16:08 (four years ago) link
The thing that bothers me the most about TLJ is the dumb vehicles - in a world full of all kinds of ships of all sizes capable of traveling at incredible speed and defying gravity, two major scenes were built around slow-ass bombers and those stupid skid machines that seemed to exist only for the red surface visuals. I’ve also wondered for years why snow speeders have those harpoon guns on the back with a dedicated operator because wtf purpose could those possible serve other than suddenly being useful for tripping ATATs
― joygoat, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
the rebels are space whalers
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:10 (four years ago) link
How to Catch a Hutt
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link
Some people call me a space whalerSome call me a gangster of Hutt
― joygoat, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
Good read
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/how-victoria-mahoney-became-first-female-star-wars-director-guest-column-1260385
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
The whole bomber intro was incredibly dumb for a variety of reasons, and it sets up most of the dumb stuff that follows.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
Including the slow-speed pursuit / “we’re running out of fuel” / “let’s sneak away to that nearby planet”
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
I also think the entire casino planet plotline (up to & including the confrontation with Phasma) is reeeeeally bad and should have been excised
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
Morrisp's cut of TLJ:
*opening crawl*
*camera pans down*
*smash cut to*
DIRECTED BY MORRISP
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:46 (four years ago) link
Many xps, the harpoons are tow cables, for towing things. That does at least make a little more sense than the styluses hanging from the TLJ salt-speeders.
The casino planet could definitely been trimmed down. I liked Benicio though--sometimes I think I'm the only one who did. I just like my Galaxy full of dodgy weirdos, I guess.
― icy bike chain rain (zchyrs), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
Haha... when a movie runs 2.53 hrs, I reserve the right to mentally re-edit 😛
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Sunday, 15 December 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link
Xp I dont hate TLJ but Benicio was far & away my favorite part, I was very disappointed when he left the story
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
the casino part was really bad and felt like the prequels to me
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 15 December 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
I didn't like the casino and thought Benicio, with his ridiculous speech impediment, was bad not good
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
― circa1916, Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
I don't get the casino scene hate really.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:54 (four years ago) link
A lot of goofy CGI aliens mixed with some facile points about space capitalism and Finn's constant bumbling.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 15 December 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link
you went looking for subtlety in THIS franchise?
though actually, compared to how symbolism and political messages were handled when Lucas ran the show, the short capitalism bit wasn't really that over the top, comparatively speaking.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
like it was literally Rose's short "look closer" moment, Benicio's revelation of war profiteering (which also was perhaps a minute long).
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link
anyway, predictions...
*Palpatine's remains went into the Death Star II and exploded. Like Dr Manhattan and Voldemort, he began reconstructing his body after his death, and right now he's a head, an arm, and a leg, and a butt cheek. he is weak and he can only provide limited spiritual support and weak force trickery.
*Rey isn't actually the daughter of junk traders, she's the byproduct of human-force ghost breeding. Kenobi's lonely force ghost fucked a day trader on Jakku.
*Snoke is revealed to be Ethel Merman
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link
imo casino planet was fine and cool, it was the horse-riding wacky chase scene that made it lame. but the overall point of this plotline is great: finn, rose and poe all think the solution has to be to carry out some crazy underdog star-wars type scheme, and actually this was totally stupid and counterproductive and they all need to step up their ideas of what being a "rebel" is and why they're doing this whole thing (h/t to david sims who i think i'm cadging this from, mostly).
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:20 (four years ago) link
yeah exactly, it was kind of the inversion of the typical Star Wars plot point, where the misfits are told not to do something that has a 1000-1 shot of working, they do it anyway and it turns out it was the right thing to do all along.
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Sunday, 15 December 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
I appreciate that, but I feel the same point was made effectively in the “inpatient youth vs. calm older women” intra-Resistance conflict on the ship.
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Monday, 16 December 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link
*”impatient”
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Monday, 16 December 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link
that's how hotshot pilot poe learns the lesson, for finn it's this different thing, idk
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 16 December 2019 02:39 (four years ago) link
yeah, Finn is defying orders (stupidly) right up until his lover crashes him out
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 02:41 (four years ago) link
although ironically Finn is an inpatient youth at the start of the movie amirite
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 16 December 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link
lol
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
LOLx2
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Monday, 16 December 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link
“Rise... Darth Skywalker”end credits recapitulate title with THE RISE OF SKYWALKER then normal fanfare plays
― mh, Monday, 16 December 2019 03:20 (four years ago) link
"to be continued with three more movies directed by Uwe Boll"
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link
btw if ppl wanna shit talk Star Wars 8 I just made this brand new thread: Star Wars 8 shit talk
― insecurity bear (sic), Monday, 16 December 2019 06:00 (four years ago) link
Good call - let’s keep this thread silent and the lines open, in case anything happens in the next five days!
― Inapt Authority (morrisp), Monday, 16 December 2019 06:39 (four years ago) link
I guess my understanding of the advanced physics that make possible the transportation technology of the Star Wars milieu is not sufficiently developed to enable me to make any confident statements about what is realistic or not. Could there be slow bombers? Maybe? Could there be some reason to drag a needle in red snow? I guess? My criteria basically boil down to: does it look cool? But I get that tastes differ.
― o. nate, Monday, 16 December 2019 15:10 (four years ago) link
I get the impression that those bombers weren't meant to be flown in heavy crossfire and were meant to do Enola Gay-esque bomb dropping which is why Poe got screamed at afterward
― 100 Percent That Grinch (Neanderthal), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:14 (four years ago) link
It'S NOT SNOW IT'S SALT
GAWD
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:29 (four years ago) link
it's cocaine iirc
― WHEEL! OF! FORESKIN! (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 December 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
roll it up in some death sticks
― mh, Monday, 16 December 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
I totally forgot the last one ended with Jedi street urchins or something. I wonder if this new one will feature an army of children to the rescue? It would certainly save on Ewok costumes.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 December 2019 16:46 (four years ago) link
― warn me about a lurking rake (One Eye Open), Monday, 16 December 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link